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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:49 PM
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In NYC, Cigarettes Sell from $11.60 to $15 a Pack
Depending on what store you go into. At the bodegas, the price is $12.50/pack.

Needless to say, that's why I quit.
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RushIsRot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:52 PM
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1. I thought they were outrageously expensive at $1.50/pack in the 60s.
I managed to quit 25 years ago.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:56 PM
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6. $5.00 a carton in NYC in the 60s
and they used to give away free 10 packs on the streets.
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SPedigrees Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:56 PM
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7. In 1969 when we quit, cigs were 35 cents a pack. nt
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 05:00 PM
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13. for me it was when they hit a dollar a pack
that's been over 30 years. (yikes I'm getting old!)
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:48 PM
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27. All cigarette packages should have a pic of a black lung on the back.
I'm tired of corporations being allowed to sell products that not just kill millions of people every year, but they also are responsible for outrageously high insurance premiums. All of us have to pay for those who smoke. Yeah, I know similar things could be said for other products ingested into people's bodies, but cigarettes and tobacco products are the deadliest thing sold in this country. Tobacco companies even add more addictive chemicals to cigarettes but they are exempt by the FDA from even having to disclose these toxic and addictive chemicals.

The game is rigged and we are the ones who are having to pay for corporate carnage.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:43 PM
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33. they do in canada.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:57 PM
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39. Smokers reduce overall medical costs... but don't let facts get in the way of a good rant. nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:17 PM
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40. oh yeah, they die. nice.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 07:35 AM
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44. I guess I'm going to start smoking and cancel my insurance!
Smoking INCREASES medical costs because of all the diseases and cancers it causes. My post wasn't a rant. It was factual and there should be bigger warnings on cigarette packages like a dissected black lung from a dead smoker's body.

I hope you are able to stop smoking and live a healtier life. All the best to you.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:53 AM
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46. No it reduces medical costs for society as a whole. Almsot everyone btw dies of smoking related
diseases (Heart Disease ect) and cancer whether they are a smoker or not. nt
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:52 PM
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2. Congrats on quitting!
How long has it been?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:40 PM
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32. Since June 19th
The new taxes went into effect July 1st.

I had a pack a day habit, so I would be paying about $375 a month for cigarettes.
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noamnety Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:30 PM
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36. What are you going to do with the extra money?
Not the #375, but the actual money in your budget that was going to smokes before the change?
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Yavin4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:55 PM
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38. Palin Proofing Myself Financially
She may be president in 2013, and I don't want to be caught unprepared.
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Xipe Totec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:53 PM
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3. I quit when they went over $1 a pack
That was a while ago.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:53 PM
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4. Shinnecock Reservation on Long Island
for Indian brands are $16 a carton. That is a whole carton as opposed to one pack. My daughter went 4 days ago.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 05:44 PM
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16. Can anyone just drive up and buy them? How many cartons can you buy?
Just curious because I have a smoking relative on the island.
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HockeyMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 07:29 PM
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30. Yes
Since you are on soverign land, I suppose whatever they have, you can buy. The name brands are more expensive than the native brands.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:04 PM
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31. Thanks !
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endless october Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:55 PM
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5. unreal.
a regressive tax on the poor.

thank you, Allen Carr, for helping me quit.
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bettyellen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 03:58 PM
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8. i quit with ALan Carr too!
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 04:19 PM
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9. Loosies
are what poor folks are doing now, sold below the counter for probably a buck apiece in NYC. It's illegal, but with a $5.00 minimum profit on every pack sold loose, it's probably the most widespread practice in the city.

It keeps going like this, heroin will be a cheaper addiction to feed.

Congratulations on quitting. Some people can't, no matter how much they want to or how hard they try.

Quitting is the best thing to do if you can manage it.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:08 PM
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18. Here, most stores have handmade signs, "No Lucys"
But for a buck, they sell them anyway.
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taught_me_patience Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:26 PM
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41. How is this regressive?
If you don't want to pay the tax, then you can just quit...
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Bandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 08:01 AM
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45. Then you won't be so poor...
It is in no way a regressive tax on the poor. It enriches all those that quit because of it..It makes the poor, richer and that is a good thing..
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 04:31 PM
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10. Only a fool would pay that much.
When you can get them for $22 a carton on the internet.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:10 PM
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19. And get a nice letter from the US Customs Department...
informing you that your parcel has been seized and you owe however much in tobacco excise tax and import duties if you want to claim it, as like as not.
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SoCalNative Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:15 PM
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20. Why would US Customs
be concerned with buying cigarettes from another state or from a native American reservation in the same state?

That would be the job of your state tax commission to seize shipments in order to collect the taxes.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:32 PM
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23. Native American reservations are technically extraterritorial for tax purposes
tribal lands are not US territory under law; they're sovereign enclaves within US teritory. Federal excise taxes are not paid on the tobacco and US Customs can levy import duties and also a requirement to pay excise tax on them.
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:41 PM
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25. Hasn't happened yet.
To anyone I know.
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elehhhhna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 08:49 PM
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34. not anymore. illegal to ship via mail, ups, fedex etc.
since last month
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 04:33 PM
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11. But are they BOUGHT for $11.60 to $15 a pack...
or does someone just drive to JR's in Selma, NC, or out to the Seneca Nation, buy a minivan full of smokes and sell them from their apartment for $8 per pack?
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tridim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 04:53 PM
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12. When I lived there the bodegas charged 75 cents for a 32 cent stamp
I hated those places, they live on scamming people.
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SteveM Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 05:01 PM
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14. The ripe fart of Prohibition is beginning to seep out of moralist undies...
Soon, folks will discover the well-worn paths of reliable smuggling, brought to you by the War on Drugs, Inc.!
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:12 AM
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50. I trust this is already happening. I hope it blows right backup in the puritans' faces.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 05:32 PM
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15. You quit? How awful for you.
How wonderful for the rest of us.

Now if I can be assured that only the wealthy one percent will smoke...how about making it $500 a pack? Too little?
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:06 PM
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17. Here in the UK the average price for a pack of cigarettes is in the range of £5 or so.
Ranging from around £4.20 for the low-end brands to £6.55 for Dunhills. (That works out to from US$6.30 to US$9.82 a pack). 20% of the population still smoke. (Roll-ups are a good deal more common than in the States, that's pretty much the only difference.)
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Uben Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:21 PM
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21. Now if we could just get beer to $50/sixpack......
....people could get rid of their other bad habits! Don't you just hate how some people spend their money? Beer, cigarettes, whiskey, and all those other horrible anti-social activities. Pretty soon, we'll have everyone doing cocaine and other hard drugs because they're cheaper!
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:28 PM
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22. I'm switching to pot. It's a lot cheaper!
Edited on Sun Jul-11-10 06:29 PM by Better Believe It

Non-smokers .... If you get a "second hand" high from me you'll just have to suffer!

:)
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:38 PM
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24. Don't Worry... Just Like With Prohibition, It Will Go Black Market
You'll have to buy from some unsavory characters... and no I don't mean AM/PM Mini-Mart...

But you'll get 'em cheaper, and they'll make a bundle.

It's astounding how we don't learn from history...

:shrug:
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Imagevision Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:43 PM
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26. Plus pot is much healthier - no comparison until big tobacco starts marketing it after November
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 06:51 PM
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28. Why isn't tobacco smoked with vaporizers?
Wouldn't the smoker still get his nicotine fix and reduce the amount of other dangerous substances from tobacco?
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lfairban Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 04:05 AM
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43. Because,
if you smoke tobacco in a vaporizer, then the pot will taste like cigarette smoke. :puke:
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:11 AM
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49. E-cigarettes?
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kelly1mm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 07:14 PM
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29. So glad I grow my own. The only thing I pay for is tubes - works out to $0.23 per pack. nt
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dem mba Donating Member (732 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:16 PM
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35. bodega by me sells them for $13 a pack
glad I quit.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 09:54 PM
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37. Good for you.
:thumbsup:
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IDemo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-11-10 10:46 PM
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42. When the vending machine wanted more than two quarters, that was enough
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:55 AM
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47. NY smokers, is there a black market?
Does anyone drive to a low tax state, fill up their trunks, and sell them to friends?

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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:02 AM
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48. Here in Westchester, they're $9.60 a pack. I've been stuffing my own for a little over $1 a pack,
for the last year and a half.
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