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unhappycamper Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:13 AM
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Report: NSA creating spy system to monitor domestic infrastructure



Report: NSA creating spy system to monitor domestic infrastructure
By Daniel Tencer
Wednesday, July 7th, 2010 -- 9:07 pm

The National Security Agency has begun work on an "expansive" spy system that will monitor critical infrastructure inside the United States for cyber-attacks, in a move that detractors say could end up violating privacy rights and expanding the NSA's domestic spying abilities.

The Wall Street Journal cites unnamed sources as saying that the NSA has issued a $100-million contract to defense contractor Raytheon to build a system dubbed "Perfect Citizen," which will involve placing "sensors" at critical points in the computer networks of private and public organizations that run infrastructure, organizations such as nuclear power plants and electric grid operators.

In an email obtained by the Journal, an unnamed Raytheon employee describes the system as "Big Brother."

"The overall purpose of the is our Government...feel(s) that they need to insure the Public Sector is doing all they can to secure Infrastructure critical to our National Security," the email states. "Perfect Citizen is Big Brother."

"Raytheon declined to comment on this email," the Journal reports.



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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 06:21 AM
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1. Obama should have repaired the damage done by the GOP in the "Patriot" Act...
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 06:22 AM by old mark
yet he has not and is evidently expanding the US Gestapo.

They don't want us to have all those "rights"...After all, the government know wahat's best for us, right Mr. President?
Rec.

mark
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 07:04 AM
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2. 'Perfect Citizen'
How apt. No innocent person has a thing to fear. Right.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:25 AM
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3. i don't think the mic is under civilian control.
they just go along, doing what they want, lying any time they feel they need to, submitting bogus budgets, bogus threat assessments, and thumbing their nose at the commander and chief.
they live in their own world. this obama guy is here now, but he will be gone one day, so why pay any attention to him. imho, they are not gonna pay a wit of attention to anything obama says until his second term. if then.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:29 AM
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4. What makes you think that President Obama is opposed to the "perfect citizen" project?
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:42 AM
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5. i don't know if he is or he isn't. my point was that
blaming this on him ignores the facts on the ground. he may be vehemently opposed, and these suckers wouldn't care.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:47 AM
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6. If President Obama were strongly opposed to this project it wouldn't get off the ground.

He is the President and he does have the power to stop it. He isn't a weak, helpless soul in the White House.
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mopinko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:32 PM
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9. well, i have a different opinion.
i don't happen to hold him responsible for every detail of the federal government, and particularly the mic. they just tolerate civilian leadership and mostly go their own way.
besides, don't you think they should protect essential assets?
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Mika Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 08:55 AM
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7. Glad my taxes are being used to protect for-profit infrastructure.
More externalization of corporate risk.



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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:08 AM
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8. Um so? Other than the boogah boogah of "big brother"....
Edited on Thu Jul-08-10 09:10 AM by Robb
...Can someone explain to me why monitoring potential assaults on electric grids and nuclear power plants is a bad idea?

From WSJ:

The federal government is launching an expansive program dubbed "Perfect Citizen" to detect cyber assaults on private companies and government agencies running such critical infrastructure as the electricity grid and nuclear-power plants, according to people familiar with the program.

The surveillance by the National Security Agency, the government's chief eavesdropping agency, would rely on a set of sensors deployed in computer networks for critical infrastructure that would be triggered by unusual activity suggesting an impending cyber attack, though it wouldn't persistently monitor the whole system, these people said.


Edited to add another sentence from WSJ.
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Dank Nugs Donating Member (157 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 01:33 PM
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10. This makes every single person working on behalf of the Government / NSA a legitimate target. n/t
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