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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:08 PM
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Early humans in England 800,000 years ago
http://www.nature.com/news/2010/100707/full/news.2010.338.html

Archaeological findings from the east coast of the United Kingdom reveal that early humans were living in northern Europe at least 80,000 years earlier than previously thought — some 780,000 years ago, and possibly as many as 950,000 years ago. These intrepid predecessors of modern Homo sapiens, expanding from southern Europe, may have had a surprising ability to adapt to colder climate conditions.

The earliest humans moved to Europe from Africa around 1.8 million years ago. But because they were adapted to a warmer climate, archaeologists have so far believed that they didn't get as far north as Happisburgh — a comparatively cold, inhospitable place.

"The case is not absolutely watertight, but it is pretty good — the collective evidence strongly suggests that this is the oldest northern European site occupied by humans," says Andrew P. Roberts, a palaeomagnetist at the Australian National University in Canberra, and co-author of a Nature News & Views story on the findings

It is not known exactly how the early humans adapted to the cold climate — whether they made fires, built shelters or used clothing, says Stringer. And because there are no human remains at the site — they probably just visited it to hunt or scavenge — it is hard to make any predictions about the population size or organization of these people. "We don't know much about this early human, but we speculate that it could be the extinct species Homo antecessor — the 'Pioneer Man' — as it is the only species known in Europe at that time."(more at link)


http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2010/jul/07/first-humans-britain-stone-tools

A spectacular haul of ancient flint tools has been recovered from a beach in Norfolk, pushing back the date of the first known human occupation of Britain by up to 250,000 years.

The early settlers would have walked into Britain across an ancient land bridge that once divided the North Sea from the Atlantic and connected the country to what is now mainland Europe. The first humans probably arrived during a warm interglacial period, but may have retreated as temperatures plummeted in subsequent ice ages.

Until now, the earliest evidence of humans in Britain came from Pakefield, near Lowestoft in Suffolk, where a set of stone tools dated to 700,000 years ago were uncovered in 2005. More sophisticated stone, antler and bone tools were found in the 1990s in Boxgrove, Sussex, which are believed to be half a million years old.

The latest haul of stone tools was buried in sediments that record a period of history when the polarity of the Earth's magnetic field was reversed. At the time, a compass needle would have pointed south instead of north. The last time this happened was 780,000 years ago, so the tools are at least that old.



Happisburgh, Norfolk, England - Google Maps location http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&q=Happisburgh,+Norfolk,+England&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=Happisburgh,+Norwich,+Norfolk,+UK&gl=us&ei=QBQ1TMOKFIHGlQe0-vzUBw&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBoQ8gEwAA

Homo antecessor http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homo_antecessor

Homo antecessor is an extinct human species (or subspecies) dating from 1.2 million to 800,000 years ago, that was discovered by Eudald Carbonell, J. L. Arsuaga and J. M. Bermúdez de Castro. H. antecessor is one of the earliest known human varieties in Europe. Various archaeologists and anthropologists have debated how H. antecessor related to other Homo species in Europe, with suggestions that it was an evolutionary link between Homo ergaster and Homo heidelbergensis, although Richard Klein believed that it was instead a separate species that evolved from H. ergaster. Others believe that H. antecessor is in fact the same species of H.heidelbergensis, who inhabited Europe from 600,000 to 250,000 years ago in the Pleistocene.


Amazing, truly amazing.
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:13 PM
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1. maybe it was alot warmer then...easier to live then nt
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:15 PM
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2. That's what the Guardian article states
"The first humans probably arrived during a warm interglacial period, but may have retreated as temperatures plummeted in subsequent ice ages."
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:40 PM
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15. we never give ancestors the credit they deserve. they were smart
and communicated and took care of each other. you have to if you want to survive in the arctic.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:16 PM
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3. That's nothing. We got LOTS of early humans right here in 21st century America! n/t
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BlueJazz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:06 PM
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12. LOL!
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jpak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:17 PM
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4. The human family tree is quite bushy
fascinating stuff - thanks for posting
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:18 PM
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5. great post. thanks for the links! n/t
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Fast Dude Donating Member (146 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:18 PM
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6. Humans in England? When did they leave, and
let the Brits have it? :evilgrin:
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Lint Head Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:27 PM
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7. Gues that kinda blows the earth is 6,000 years old crowd.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 12:27 AM
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19. You'd have to be so incredibly fucking stupid to believe the 6,000 year thing that
this won't make a dent in that crowd's tiny pea brains.
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:27 PM
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8. A branch of Humanoids left Africa at that time
that have been found now from Europe to Asia but they died out.

The Chinese thought for a while that they were a branch
that originated from local ancient humanoids which they found there
but the gnome markers in a great sampling proved it wasn't true
and they too came from Africa, like all of us
across the Red Sea.

There was many competing humanoids and exits from Africa depending on Climate through the Ages.
Nethanderal proved that as did other humanoids that died out found in Asia.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:32 PM
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9. I wonder how they made it across the channel without a boat.
How did they know there was land on the other side?
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MicaelS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:38 PM
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10. Across a land bridge
From the Guardian article:

"The early settlers would have walked into Britain across an ancient land bridge that once divided the North Sea from the Atlantic and connected the country to what is now mainland Europe. "
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 07:46 PM
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11. Landbridge - Now, that makes sense!!!
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pipi_k Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:37 PM
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14. Little known far distant relative of...
Evel Knievel


Fred Flintstone Knievel...


got a head start down a huge hill (after Barney Rubble gave him a shove)






and the rest is Pre History...


:7

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Faux pas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:09 PM
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13. Saving for later.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 11:55 PM
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16. Aha! They've found Piltdown Man's tools! LOL!
Where is Charles Dawson when you need him?

Actually, I had an argument with an anthropology professor a number of decades ago. I wanted to know why no one was looking for early hominid fossils or evidence anywhere but Africa. She assured me there was no chance of finding any early hominid any where else since knowledgeable people were certain they would not be found. That is what my first anthropology professor called a self fulfilling prophecy.

Every time I hear of new discoveries in the field outside of Africa, I think of that professor.
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KansasVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 12:02 AM
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17. Wait, Palin said the world was only 3,000 years old. The article is a lie!!!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 12:02 AM
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18. fascinating
thanks for posting
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LeftishBrit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 03:14 AM
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20. There are still early humans in England. They hold seats in Parliament, and run a lot of our media.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 03:26 AM
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21. And you thought you got rid of them all during the 17th Century.
lol
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mr blur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 04:41 AM
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22. I actually live in the village of Boxgrove.
Boxgrove Man is a big thing round here. You can get T-shirts with "The Tooth Is Out There!" on the front.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 05:03 AM
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23. So Piltdown Man was real!
fucking miracles!
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