letter in my paper ‘Thank God for Arizona’

[w8liftinglady]

help me think of a comeback that is basted in fact....thanks

http://www.thedailylight.com/articles/2010/06/30/opinion/doc4c2b5fb441bd1339420135.txt

To the Editor,

This is one Texan who will gladly purchase products made in Arizona when I get a chance! Thank God for the wonderful citizens of Arizona, their courageous lawmakers, and Governor Jan Brewer!

It is a sad day in America when the Obama Administration finds itself so owned and operated by the malice of the Far Left that they will actually sue a State in our Union for taking a stand in favor of law enforcement. For once, however, we are in a political year where their Hollywood Elite Media Henchmen are not going to get by as easily as usual with demonizing honest Americans as supposed racists and bigots simply for wanting the border to be made secure! Hallelujah for that!

The U.S. Attorney General admitted that he had never even bothered to actually read the Arizona law regarding enforcement of the already existing laws only a few weeks before suing the State of Arizona! This is truly outrageous!

Most Americans who want commonsense enforcement of the law are folks who welcome legal immigrants from all countries of the world with open arms. It has been a prolonged evil slander against decent people for the hatred and malice of the Far Left to define them as harboring unkind attitudes toward persons of foreign descent and birth. Thank God, most Americans do not seem to be buying the lie in 2010, thanks to the bravery of Arizona!

I sincerely hope for a solid consensus to develop about the most proper way of resolving the controversies that have resulted from many years of federal government dereliction of duty. Nobody wants arbitrary treatment of human beings who are here illegally. Yet, it is right and decent and fair to expect the law to be upheld by those who swear allegiance to the Constitution! Thank God for Arizona. Any honest person who actually reads the Arizona legislation will see that it does not promote bigotry at all … simply, it promotes respect for the rule of law.

Paul Richard Strange Sr.,

Waxahachie

[MadMaddie]

1. Your response should be

In Response to Texas

While you buy your products made you do realize that those products that you purchased were made by companies that hired illegals to make those products.

Question: Will you support a law that puts American companies out of business that hire illegals to make those products that you gladly purchase?

I am guessing you will say no that you don't support putting American companies out of business. So it is you that is anti-American workers. You support big business and union crushing. You are the reason that companies are giving our jobs to illegals. Pat yourself on the back because you are a fine coporate American living the dream.

Feel free to add more..

MadMaddie

[w8liftinglady]

2. EXCELLENT REPLY!!!!!I will totally use some of this,if it's OK...

[MadMaddie]

5. Absolutely! Please use whatever you would like!

:hi:

[w8liftinglady]

10. i'll let you know when it's online...

[NoNothing]

15. SB1070 *also* does this

I think you ought to know.

[bif]

3. How about this comeback?

Fuck off you racist piece of shit! I think that's pretty much based on facts.

[w8liftinglady]

7. LOL--that's what i WANT to say!but--uh-uh

[unhappycamper]

4. Hi Paul -

Both your LTTE and your viewpoints a strange. As are you.

Illegal immigration has brought out the bigots and racists in their full numbers.

Islamic? No problem, send them back to Iran. Or Iraq, or Afghanistan, or anywhere but here.

Black? No problem, make them homeless and stick them out in the cotton fields. Where they belong.

Hispanic? No problem, just send them and their offspring back to Mexico.

I'm all for commonsense enforcement of the law. But I do think that tasing a 10 year old boy or a grandmother in her bed is a bit much.

If you want to talk about Federal government dereliction of duty, let's talk about those two occupations that dubya started. (Most sadly, Obama is continuing down that same path.) Does the fact that we are spending $200,000 a minute to keep the occupations of Iraq and Afghanistan going bother you at all? I bet it scares the hell out of those teachers who are going to be laid off this year.

I could go on, but this conversation is just too strange for me.


Sincerely,
unhappycamper
Boston, MA

[w8liftinglady]

8. I know...I prefer to refer them to the business owners who go unscathed-

why not go for all-if it wasn't for the owners,the undocumented workers would never get hired...

[unhappycamper]

11. That works for me also.

Be sure to hammer out the fact that these were "jobs no American would want." And the fact that most of the companies who hired those undocumented workers were never punished.

[w8liftinglady]

12. exactly-especially here in texas and arizona..

[theoldman]

6. The problem with the Arizona law is that the people who wrote it are ignorant.

If they were smart, they would have known that it was did not pass muster when compared to the constitution. A suburb of Dallas has spent millions of dollars try to pass a law that has the same problem. Will these people ever learn? Probably not because they are Republican.

[w8liftinglady]

9. no kidding...that may have been my suburb...good freaking luck..

[Political Bitch]

13. Dear Mr. Strange...

Your name truly does you justice. Your attitudes and ideas of what constitutes 'respect for the rule of law' are most certainly some of the strangest I've seen! Think for a moment of the Constitution of this United States. Think for a moment about that big, green statue in New York. Think for a moment about 'federal government dereliction of duty'.
I know your head is hurting by now- so much thinking being an unaccustomed act for those of your ilk. But, if you can, use your brain as more than a sponge to soak up Limbaugh.
Our Constitution does not allow for anyone to be treated as a criminal just because certain folks would like to see them treated as criminals.
Our big, green statue in New York? She's an immigrant, too...from France! (Don't run screaming just yet, please!) I'm pretty sure there are words on a tablet that lady is holding. I believe they say something like 'Give me your tired, your poor, your huddled masses yearning to breathe free.' Who are we to tell this lady, a commemoration of the centennial anniversary of the signing of the Declaration of Independence, that we no longer want the tired, the poor, and those yearning to breathe free. Wait, let me rephrase: Who are YOU to say such a thing?
Federal government dereliction of duty? Are you really coming here with that? I didn't see you standing up when George W. Bush was using our Constitution, Bill of Rights, and Declaration of Independence for toilet paper! I didn't see you screaming loudly about starting an illegal war. I didn't see you making a fuss when Georgie-boy decided to wiretap Americans, without warrants, on OUR OWN SOIL! I certainly didn't see you screaming about water boarding, torture, and all the other atrocities committed by BushCo. Where were you then?
If you are so concerned about the rule of law, why is it that only NOW, when the question involves brown people and how they are treated, that you are standing up and shouting? And you're not even on the side of right! YOU are a bigot, sir. YOU are the one in the wrong on this. Deal with it.

[frylock]

21. rock on!

[TheCowsCameHome]

14. ..because it makes the other 49 states look normal.

[SargeUNN]

16. from one who lives in Arizona

I have tried to get out the message on this horrid law but with little help. Here are the problems with this law:

1. The track record of such a law is 100% failure where it has been tried (see 9500 Liberty at YouTube). It has been tried several times in each case creating more profiling, economic problems, and loss of population.

2. You can be on vacation from anywhere and a cop can pull you over for anything they consider you are doing wrong, ask for your citizenship proof (remember Arizona is a state that doesn't believe Obama was born in Hawaii and his birth certificate is a fraud) which if they decide it isn't real they will ask for more and detain you for up to 6 months and in the process you might even be deported.

3. Joe Arpaio has been working on this method for years and it has caused the DoJ to investigate him for profiling. He has abused prisoners, harrassed people that shouldn't have been.

4. It creates even more distrust in the community. The breakdown of the "illegal immigrant" is ignored but some came here legally but due to red tape, lawyer fees, and sometime just a lazy worker in the system, their visa expired. Another type is those who come here, use no social services, maybe brought in by a corporation coyote. They usually just try to stay out of sight and are more law abiding than most citizens. Another are those who came here as infants and have made good grades, stayed out of trouble with the law and made impressive strides in education. Then there are those who come here to create trouble (usually cartel people) and usually come in such a manner they aren't caught in sweeps like Arpaio does. The other groups of course might be aware of them but because they would be caught and deported they won't turn in these who are the real problem. This law just adds to providing cover for the real criminals by putting more work on the cops and not allowing more time to go after the real problem, cost the taxpayer more for less results.

[Wounded Bear]

17. Well, Arizona does.....

keep New Mexico from slamming into California. :shrug:

[Wounded Bear]

18. Whoops. Self deleted double post. NT

[Bigmack]

19. Paul...

I know it's a lot of words, but try to read this piece. Find out what's going to happen in Arizona. Find out why they will repeal their law soon.

"In mid 2007, Prince William County in Virginia adopted a law "requiring police officers to question anyone they thought was 'probably' undocumented." At the behest of a coalition of local anti-immigration activists, politicians and an internet based network of similarly minded citizens across the country spearheaded by FAIR (Federation for American Immigration Reform), the law had become reality - and the reality of its profoundly negative impact became impossible to ignore. With the novel threat posed by newly empowered police officers to act on a mere suspicion of undocumented status in mind, the local immigrant community responded by packing up and leaving the county.

The ramifications of this collective act of emigration for the local economy were devastating. Home prices plummeted as neighbors fled, leaving overgrown lawns and dilapidated housing units in their wake. Businesses closed, and those that remained open suffered huge drops in patronage. This was all bad enough, but in tandem with the national financial crisis of 2008 Prince William County's economic dire straits were especially severe.

This local experiment in organized Nativist purging of "the other" had reaped what it sowed - and even the Natives themselves didn't much like it.

In time this law would be reversed, due in part to the change of heart of local residents in the face of a severe economic downturn, but primarily to the efforts of opponents - mostly immigrants, along with their native born sympathizers - of the "probable cause mandate" who demanded assurance that it would not be abused.

First among these opponents were in fact the police themselves, under the leadership of Col. Charlie T. Deane. With the threat of racial profiling looming large, the idea of seeing cameras installed in all police vehicles, as a way to assuage fears of improper conduct, began to gain real traction. But since this would require a hefty tax increase to finance, it would be subject to a vote by the Prince William Board of County Supervisors. This, in the end, proved to be the law's undoing, as local citizens found it hard to stomach a tax increase in the face of an ongoing economic malaise."
http://sfappeal.com/culture/2010/06/9500-liberty.php

[yewberry]

20. Why I won't be going near Arizona:

I have a number of problems with the new law. First and foremost, it's damned creepy to institute a law that allows police to stop anyone for any reason and demand proof of citizenship. Isn't that exactly what we used to object to about the Soviet Union and divided Germany? And isn't that an invitation for racial and ethnic profiling and harassment?

I don't believe the law is supportive of local law enforcement. It requires them to make decisions and perform duties they've never been trained for. It asks them to step into the role of federal officials in violation of the U.S. Constitution. Worse, it allows people to sue local agencies if they believe the law is not being enforced adequately. That's an invitation for harassment of police and other local agencies.

The simple reality is that Senate Republicans have vowed to block any immigration reform legislation and it's unlikely that that will change until the obstructionist wing of that party abandons its strategy of doing nothing and pointing the finger at everyone else for getting nothing done.

If I were pulled over in AZ, I'd be guilty of misdemeanor, because I can't provide proof of citizenship; my state doesn't require proof of citizenship to issue a driver license. I'd need a passport in order to be in AZ legally, as though I were going into a country that isn't my own. A new iron curtain is an interesting way to seal their borders.