Troubles at one of the American Empire's outposts

[unhappycamper]

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A group of Guam residents climb down to the freshwater caves in the Pagat area, where the island's native Chamorro residents found fresh water thousands of years ago. The military has proposed putting a firing range adjacent to the land, a move that has some residents and local leaders concerned about access to the caves.


Slowing plans for Guam buildup brings new challenges
By Teri Weaver
Stars and Stripes
Published: July 7, 2010

TOKYO — The U.S. military’s plans to build Guam into a Pacific hub by 2014 are proving too much too fast, according to the retired Marine general in charge of the project.

Temporarily pouring tens of thousands of construction workers onto an island already suffering from inadequate sewage treatment, aging water systems and traffic congestion simply won’t work, said David Bice, director of the Joint Guam Program Office.

“Bringing in such a large number of workers in such a short amount of time was problematic,” Bice said last week. “We have to find a way to adjust to the realities of Guam.”

But slowing down the initial plan — which centers on a move of 8,600 U.S. Marines from Okinawa to Guam — is as challenging as moving the entire project forward.

The deadline for the Marines’ move is 2014, a date set by the United States and Japan to alleviate long-standing complaints about the number of U.S. troops living on Okinawa. Unless that agreement changes, Bice and other military officials must push ahead.

[amyrose2712]

1. grrr.

[yella_dawg]

2. I got a bad ass idea.

Move the troops from Okinawa to the continental US. Cheap and quick. Tell Al Greene that that's really thinking outside the box.

[Arctic Dave]

4. No kidding.

Why move them to the middle of nowhere when you could house them in the US.

We do have really big airplanes now that can fly around the world with a few hours notice.

[Angry Dragon]

3. Are we so afraid of the rest of the world

that we have to have bases around the world?? Perhaps it is time to rethink our foreign relations and use the State Dept. to make this a safer world.

[SunnySong]

5. In fairness to the US it's because people around the world are afraid of their neighbors

that we have bases around the world.

And since the United States has convinced the Europeans not to start a war genocidal war over the last seventy or so years we tend to forget that Europeans in particular are a very primitive and warlike people who will burn and pillage each other at a drop of the hat.


I think we can all be thankful we have the United States to help civilize them.

(On note yes there has been one genocidal war in Europe in the last 70 years but in all fairness the exception here proves the rule).

[L0oniX]

6. Yes the whole world will descend into war if we don't have our military bases all over it.

:crazy:

[SunnySong]

7. Not the whole world silly just the savage europeans.

Wars before US bases

1830 Ten Days Campaign (following the Belgian Revolt)
1830-1831 Polish-Russian war
1848-1849 Hungarian Revolution and War of Independence
1848-1851 First Schleswig War
1848–1866 Italian Independence wars
1848–1849 First Italian Independence War
1859 Second Italian Independence War
1866 Third Italian Independence War
1854–1856 Crimean War
1864 Second Schleswig War
1864 January Uprising
1866 Austro-Prussian War
1870–1871 Franco-Prussian War
1877–1878 Russo–Turkish War
1885 Serbo-Bulgarian War
1893–1896 Cod War of 1893
1897 First Greco–Turkish War
1911-1912 Italo-Turkish War
1912–1913 Balkan Wars
1912-1913 First Balkan War
1913 Second Balkan War
1914–1918 World War I
1916 Easter Rising
1917–1921 Russian Civil War
1917 Finnish Civil War
1918 Polish-Czech war for Teschen Silesia
1918–1919 Polish-Ukrainian War
1918–1919 Greater Poland Uprising
1918–1920 Estonian Liberation War
1918-1920 Latvian War of Independence
1919 Hungarian–Romanian War of 1919
1919-1922 Greco-Turkish War
1919-1923 Turkish War of Independence
1919–1920 Czechoslovakia-Hungary War
1919–1921 Silesian Uprisings
1919–1921 Polish-Soviet War
1919–1921 Anglo-Irish War
1920 Polish-Lithuanian War
1921 Uprising in West Hungary
1922–1923 Irish Civil War
1936–1939 Spanish Civil War
1939 Slovak-Hungarian War
1939 Occupation of Zakarpattia Oblast by Hungary
1939–1945 World War II
1939-1940 Winter War
1941-1944 Continuation War
1944 Slovak National Uprising

Wars after US bases

Turkish invasion of Cyprus
Bosnian War
War in South Ossetia


Proof seems to be in the pudding.

[L0oniX]

8. ..and we are the world police at our cost.

WTF made us the fucking world police? Let the other countries defend themselves for s change. They have been riding on us long enough. Besides that ...you can't help others if you are going down the drain and we are circling it right now.