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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:53 AM
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Social Security Privatization Is Back - FDL
But you already knew that... right?

Social Security Privatization Is Back
By: Dave Johnson
Tuesday July 6, 2010 8:21 am

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Social Security privatization is back. After being thoroughly defeated when President Bush proposed it, it is being revived by Republicans, who are said to be poised to take over at least one house of the Congress in November. According to TPM,

House Minority Leader John Boehner won’t say if the Republican Party will again try to privatize Social Security, even as the GOP pushes fiscal responsibility as a major issue in their quest to win back control of Congress.

When the Washington Post’s Dan Balz asked Boehner (R-OH) if the failed 2005 Social Security privatization plan would resurface this year, the Republican leader twice answered, “I have no idea.”


In February, Representatives Paul Ryan (R-WI), the ranking Republican on the House Budget Committee, and Devin Nunes (R-CA) introduced “A Roadmap to America’s Future” which advocates the privatization of Social Security. Several Republican candidates, like Rand Paul, have advocated privatizing or eliminating Social Security.

Privatization is taking something that is public and handing it to private interests.
Instead of being managed democratically, accountably and transparently by the public for benefit of the many, it is instead managed for the benefit of a few. Medicare and the “public option” vs private insurance are examples. School privatization is a dream of the right.

Social Security privatization is an ongoing campaign by conservatives, backed by Wall Street. In a 1983 Cato Institute Journal document, “Achieving a Leninist Strategy” by Stuart Butler of Cato and Peter Germanis of Heritage lays it out for us. The document is still available at Cato, and select quotes are available at Plotting Privatization? from Z Magazine. It is worth reading the entire document (in particular the section “Weakening the Opposition”) to understand completely the strategy that has been unfolding in the years since, but the following quotes give you an idea:

“Lenin recognized that fundamental change is contingent upon … its success in isolating and weakening its opponents. … we would do well to draw a few lessons from the Leninist strategy.”

” construct … a coalition that will … reap benefits from the IRA-based private system … but also the banks, insurance companies, and other institutions that will gain from providing such plans to the public.”

“The first element consists of a campaign to achieve small legislative changes that embellish the present IRA system, making it in practice a small-scale private Social Security system.

“The second main element … involves what one might crudely call guerrilla warfare against both the current Social Security system and the coalition that supports it.”

“The banking industry and other business groups that can benefit from expanded IRAs …” “… the strategy must be to propose moving to a private Social Security system in such a way as to … neutralize … the coalition that supports the existing system.”

“The next Social Security crisis may be further away than many people believe. … it could be many years before the conditions are such that a radical reform of Social Security is possible. But then, as Lenin well knew, to be a successful revolutionary, one must also be patient and consistently plan for real reform.”


Remember this when you hear that “Social Security is going broke” or “contributes to the deficit” or “is a Ponzi scheme.” These are only manufactured propaganda points, repeated and repeated in an ongoing attempt to drive the idea into “conventional wisdom,” something that “everyone knows” but is not actually true.

Take a look at Social Security Works to learn more about the fight to keep Social Security for the American People, and subscribe to their mailing list to receive ongoing information as the fight unfolds — again.

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Link: http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/07/06/social-security-privatization-is-back/

Social Security Works: http://socialsecurity-works.org/

:shrug:

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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:55 AM
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1. KIck & Rec #1 (nt)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:56 AM
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2. I'm shocked
Shocked, I tell you. Absolutely shocked.

Hey, on another topic .... didja hear that Von's/Safeway is having a sale on Fancy Feast?
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LWolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 08:57 AM
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3. k&r
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Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:06 AM
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4. Welfare for Wall Street
Another scam to rip-off America.
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WillyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:07 AM
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5. Weakening the Opposition
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 09:14 AM by WillyT
Weakening the Opposition

Individual Accounts

To emphasize how unfavorably Social Security compares with the
private alternative, the Social Security Administration should be
required to establish an individual account for each person participating
in the program. Furthermore, each person should be provided
with an annual statement showing how much he has paid into the
system and what benefits he can expect to receive. Individuals could
then compare their returns from private investment with their returns
under Social Security. Such a scheme would illustrate in cold numbers just
what the program means for different individuals, and would
help reveal the inter- and intragenerational distribution that occurs
under the current system. The retired population might then come
to realize that they have not purchased an earned annuity but instead
are receiving a tremendous welfare subsidy. Younger workers, on
the other hand, would see just how much of a loss they are taking by
participating in the program. This mechanism for demonstrating the
individual gains and losses that occur under Social Security is a key
step in weakening public support for the present system.

The technology for creating a reporting system already exists. Using
it simply requires an improvement in the computer system of the
Social Security Administration. The SSA, however,undoubtedly would
claim that the enormous cost and complexity of such a system would
prevent it from providing what would be highly embarrassing information.
Fortunately, there are private-sector companies, such as
Accucomp Financial Services, that are willing to compile the necessary
information from an employee’s tax returns for a very modest
fee. (Accucomp does it for $35)8 The SSA could be required to
contract out the service to such companies, or taxpayers could receive
a tax credit for arranging it themselves.

Detaching Supporters of Social Security

The final element of the strategy must be to propose moving to a
private Social Security system in such a way as to detach, or at least
neutralize, segments of the coalition that supports the existing system.
A necessary step toward this objective is to honor all outstanding
claims on the current system. Without such a commitment, we can
never overcome the political opposition to reform, because the retired
(or nearly retired) population will continue to strongly oppose any
package that threatens to significantly reduce their benefits. Retaining
the obligation to fund existing liabilities, however, will necessarily
place constraints on the mechanisms that can be used to move
the country towards a private system.

The problem of implementing a private system makes the British
model particularly attractive. It is clear, in Britain at least, that workers
are quite prepared to make some payments into Social Security
(even though they will not receive benefits), provided they acquire
the right to escape from a governmentally operated retirement system
in which they have little confidence. We should consider, therefore,
modifying Peter Ferrara’s phase-in plan.

Under Ferrara’s plan, workers would be allowed to invest part,
and eventually all, of the money they now pay into Social Security
in expanded IRAs, in return for a corresponding reduction in their
future Social Security benefits. Under our proposed modification,
workers who choose to opt out of the system would not only lose
their corresponding future benefits hut would even have them reduced
somewhat further for the privilege of getting out of Social Security.
This added reduction in benefits could be viewed as a tax that would
be used to pay off the system’s remaining obligations.

An interim “opting-out tax” hardly conforms with the principles of
fairness; yet it makes good political sense. If the support for leaving
Social Security is as great as it seems, then it is unlikely that the level
of contracting out will he significantly reduced by requiring workers
to make some payment into the system while they withdraw and lose
benefits (assuming, for the sake of argument, that they ever would
have received those benefits!). But the opting-out tax would have
important political advantages. It would serve to calm the fears of
the elderly, because the net phase.out losses to the Social Security
fund would be smaller under opting out than under the Ferrara plan,
for virtually the same reduction in future liabilities. Hence, under
an opting-out plan the support needed from general revenues would
be smaller, and the threat to the trust funds would be reduced.

This modification would slightly dampen the enthusiasm of young
workers, who are a strong segment of the coalition for change. But
on the other hand, this modification would help to meet the concerns
of the elderly and of the taxpayers and beneficiaries of federal programs
who might resist the use of general revenues to cover the
phase-in period.

Detaching workers who have made substantial tax payments into
Social Security may not prove to be too difficult. A number of proposals
have been put forward in which the worker’s accumulated
“contributions,” plus interest, would be given to him in form of an
interest-bearing bond, payable at retirement.” This bond would have
a market value and could be sold, with the proceeds to be invested
in a tax-deductible IRA. Using an appropriate version of this proposal
should make it possible to gain some support even from those who
have a substantial stake in the current system.

From (.pdf file): http://zfacts.com/metaPage/lib/Cato-Heritage-1983-Lenin-Plan.pdf

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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:09 AM
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6. GOP vandals at it again
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BlueIdaho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:16 AM
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7. Do they really think this will help elect republicans?
Privatization is about as popular as a turd in a punchbowl.
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johnaries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:20 AM
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8. After the recent Wall STreet debacle when so many 401(k)'s
were decimated, how could anyone seriously propose this?

More evidence that Republicans are out-of-touch. Of course, it is FDL so I'll wait for another source - but I can easily believe that Repubs are this stupid.

K&R
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:43 AM
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11. What wall street debacle?
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TBF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:34 PM
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13. Not only Republicans are out of touch -
there are quite a few prominent dems going down this road as well...
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Jim__ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:32 AM
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9. I hope the American people have enough sense to rise up and fight this.
We absolutely cannot rely on the dems here.
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texastoast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:34 AM
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10. We fought it off once, and we will do it again
If only my rep had the guts to call on me during the townhall meetings, but he doesn't like to call on informed Democrats. I need a minion.
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TheWebHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 09:49 AM
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12. after a financial shock
it's logical that governments would look to ways to transfer away the debt obligation. The idea of the government simply becoming a transfer agent for incoming and outgoing social security payments means it's no longer creating future debt, and there is an appeal to that aspect given the dangerous levels of debt throughout the world's developed economies. There's complexities of what happens to money when people die early, does it transfer to those who live beyond average life expectancy, do you mandate an overweighting towards bonds or asset allocate based on age, is it means tested, etc.
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