life in the French Republic "is carried out with a bare face."

[RB TexLa]

Michelle Alliot-Marie French Justice Minister and obvious piece of shit, on burqa ban bill.



PARIS – France's justice minister went before parliament Tuesday to defend a hotly debated bill that would ban burqa-style Islamic veils in public, arguing that hiding your face from your neighbors is a violation of French values.

Michele Alliot-Marie's speech at the National Assembly marked the start of parliamentary debate on the bill. It is widely expected to become law, despite the concerns of many French Muslims, who fear it will stigmatize them. Many law scholars also argue it would violate the constitution.

The government has used various strategies to sell the proposal, casting it at times as a way to promote equality between the sexes, to protect oppressed women or to ensure security in public places.

Alliot-Marie argued that it has nothing to do with religion or security — she argued simply that life in the French Republic "is carried out with a bare face."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100706/ap_on_re_eu/eu_france_forbidding_the_veil

[madinmaryland]

1. But they don't have the right to bare arms.

:wtf:

Hmmmmm.

[tritsofme]

2. France is a country that cherishes it's secular values

Something to be aware of should you choose to live there. I'm sure our fundies wouldn't be very happy there either.

[enough]

3. I never heard of the Justice Minister till just now, but I don't see why she is "an obvious

piece of shit."

It seems to me there are some valid arguments here. No need to demonize your opponent in an argument.

snip from the article>

Part of the bill is aimed at husbands and fathers who impose such veils on female family members. Anyone convicted of forcing a woman to wear such a veil risks a year of prison and a euro30,000 fine — with both those penalties doubled if the victim is a minor.

France "does not accept attacks on human dignity," Alliot-Marie said. "It does not tolerate the abuse of vulnerable people."

France's opposition Socialists agree with much of the draft law, although they say a ban shouldn't be applicable everywhere — just in certain places, such as government buildings, hospitals and public transport.

snip>

[Codeine]

4. I don't veil my wife with you. nt

[xchrom]

5. France can decide for it's self. Nt

[Bonobo]

6. Yes, but do they allow "crotchdroppings"? nt

[Dark]

7. I can see it from a public safety perspective. If someone wears one that covers up everything

(not necessarily a woman either), it would make it real hard to get a description after a crime. Then, just take off the head scarf or more, and viola.

[alfredo]

8. When in Rome, do as the Romans?

[RB TexLa]

10. Not if you aren't Roman.

[alfredo]

11. It's kind of like doing your best not to look like a tourist.

I wonder if the second generation Muslim women wear the veil?

[MicaelS]

9. Good for the French, I hope the bill passes

If a person is so insecure they need to cover their face, they do not need to be out in public.