Did Lindsay Lohan deserve the sentence that she recieved?

[LoZoccolo]

[Lint Head]

1. Lindsay Lohan!? George Bush and Dick Cheney need to be sentenced

to prison.

[inthebrain]

2. Who gives a fuck?

[SocialistLez]

18. +1 NT

[Selatius]

27. +1000 nt

[notesdev]

62. That's the missing poll choice

People worrying about the fate of Lindsey Lohan have a serious priorities problem.

[chrisa]

69. +1

The media should be reporting on the oil spill and the wars, not some dried up, spoiled narcissist that begs for attention. When did the "hard-hitting" American news media become TMZ with some opinion-spouted-as-fact mixed in, but no real news?

[Donnachaidh]

3. I'll bet she spends MINUTES in Jail, just like Paris did.

No way is she going to pull the full sentence.

[IScreamSundays]

61. Actually it is Los Angeles County...

She will do 10% of her time because of over-crowding. That is unless she was given flat time. If that is the case, she will do the whole thing.

She fucked the judge off and she got pissed. Not a good idea.

[flvegan]

4. She got more time than Liam Gallagher ever got

and he did far worse.

Guess that's...score one for Oasis!

[RB TexLa]

5. Who cares, I just hope she has a fast car and runs, or brings a gun for the chase.

[lonestarnot]

6. What happened to her and why should I care?

[Greybnk48]

7. Yes. And maybe it will save her life because no one

seems to care about this young woman (she is ordered to go through treatment). I sure hope this helps her.

[AngryAmish]

14. I have to agree with you

I have some young relatives going through the whole drug thing...spending their parents retirement money for rehab without a second thought. Then using again....

I was young and stupid and it is only the fact no one gave me heroin when I was that young I did anything with my life.

THe scientific evidence rehab works is not there..but we have nothing that works better.

She had the world and does not care. She is young and hopefully will not die from this.

[Bobbieo]

28. I wish my daughter would have been sentenced to prison. She might still be alive!

[Greybnk48]

31. I'm so sorry about your daughter. Sometimes a drastic

change in routine is exactly what's needed to turn someone around.

[NeoGreen]

8. One of the few posts where I exercised my option to...

...unrec.

Who the H3ll cares, or should care when there are real issues to discuss?

[Lasher]

26. Aha, the KDSM!

Not many recognize it right away because it was authorized so recently, and with no fanfare. I picked mine up in my mailbox a coupla years ago.

[NeoGreen]

71. Wow, someone reconized it...

... plus I had to make my own since it still isn't an option here at DU (I did ask to have it added).

Thanks,


When, where, what branch did you earn yours?

[Lasher]

74. US Army at Camp Nabors in Seoul, 1970

I was drafted but got lucky after that, if you know what I mean.

I made myself a KDSM avatar just as you have done. I did that I guess a couple of years ago when I first received the medal. The DU medal avatars only include service medals of combat theaters, except for the WWII medal if memory serves.

Where wuz U at?

[NeoGreen]

76. USAF Osan, 1987

Red Horse, Assistant Engineer

I volunteered in 1984 and after 2.5 years in Grand Forks, ND, I got "lucky" and was sent to the 554th in Osan.

[MrSlayer]

9. No, FREE Lindsay Now!!

Obviously, this was a frame job.

[SidDithers]

10. NO!! No way did she deserve that sentence...nt

Sid

[liberal N proud]

11. Stop picking on Lindsay

:sarcasm:

[NRaleighLiberal]

12. no talent, no character, no interest in her whatsoever.

[Nye Bevan]

13. No. Hollywood stars should be exempt from the laws that apply to the rest of us.

Roman Polanski should be freed for the same reason.

[Xenotime]

15. She will be out in a few days... Just wait.

[demosincebirth]

47. No more than 20 days

[Stinky The Clown]

16. My faith renewed. We are once again polling critical matters.

Rec.

[MicaelS]

17. If she was a nobody....

She would have been in jail, a long time ago. Maybe this will serve as a wake up call to her, and turn her around, it worked for Robert Downey Jr.

[npk]

21. Yep.

People, including Judges, seem to worship at the feet of people like Lohan. I guess after she kills somebody, while driving drunk behind the wheel, maybe she'll get at least a real jail sentence then. But probably not.

[npk]

19. She will probably get out early

She will whine and cry and collapse on the floor, making a great big scene just Like Britney did and the jail will releases her for health reasons like Britney. It is so sad and pathetic what this world has come to when people worship at the feet of people like this, and for what.

Really it is sad to watch. What this girl needs is to be dropped from Hollywood, move back to wherever the hell she came from, and be forgotten. People like her get chance after chance after chance and never care. While other people make a one mistake and never get another chance, while they sit behind bars for years and see their lives ruined and wrecked. I would like to think this is the end of hearing about this dumb ****, but sadly I expect we will have to hear from her some more.

[blue_onyx]

36. Huh?

Britney was never convicted of a crime and never went to jail.

[npk]

40. She was arrested, but like I said whined until an ambulance was called and then collapsed

http://www.thesuperficial.com/britney_spears_may_be_arrested-01-2008

She got off because she was so fragile.

[blue_onyx]

43. Um, no

The article itself says, it "could result in her arrest." She was never arrested for a crime. You may want to actually read articles before posting them.

FYI, Britney is supposedly Bi-polar. A very different situation than Lindsey

http://www.tmz.com/2008/01/05/brit-probably-bipolar/17/

[npk]

45. I am aware of what the article says.

She was taken into custody. She was then put on 72 hour lock down to be evaluated. See prosecutors have to have peoples mental state defined at the time a crime is committed to know if charges can or should be filled. Because if a person is insane they cannot be held to stand trial. When Britney was put into lockdown waiting to be evaluated she kept collapsing and having "spells" so the doctors informed the police that they could't complete the evaluation in her current state. The prosecutor dropped the charges because the evaluation couldn't be completed.

BTW, she and Lindsay are both drama queens and are masters at playing the system to their benefit and usually managing to get what they want.


From the article:

Britney Spears is currently on 72-hour lockdown for mental observation where she will later be booked for “as-yet-unnamed offensives.” We all saw this day coming, but, I hope I speak for the rest of you, nobody wanted to see a toddler held hostage then watch the police kick in the door and strap his mom to a gurney.

[blue_onyx]

51. Clearly you aren't

Everything you said is contradicted by the article you posted.

"When Britney was put into lockdown waiting to be evaluated she kept collapsing and having "spells" so the doctors informed the police that they could't complete the evaluation in her current state. The prosecutor dropped the charges because the evaluation couldn't be completed"

Not true. She wasn't collapsing and having spells.

It's sad that you think mental illness is same as being a drug addict or a drama queen. It's people like you who create the stigma that many associate with mental illness.

[npk]

55. Lord have mercy

I was not equating mental illness to drug abuse. I was comparing one drama queen to another drama queen. Somebody can be bipolar and still act like a brat without having anything to do with drug use. In Lohan's case she just happens to be an alcoholic, plus a drama queen.

[npk]

41. BTW, I didn't say she was convicted

I said she was in jail. She was in 72 hour lockdown for evaluation. But she kept collapsing and fainting because it was so traumatic she couldn't take it. The prosecutors let her out of lockdown and decided not to press chargers because she whined so much. The same thing will happen with Lohan. After she reports to Jail she will collapse and have to taken to a private hospital somewhere, where the doctors will say she is too fragile to be locked up any longer.

[blue_onyx]

44. You said jail

Britney wasn't taken to jail. As the article you posted said, she was "taken out of her home strapped to a gurney and placed into an ambulance, which is escorted by 13 police cars with sirens blaring to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center."

Again, you may want to read articles before posting them.

[npk]

46. Jail and lockdown, same thing

I don't know if you are intentionally being dense or what. She was removed from the house after the police kicked down the door. She was taken, by ambulance (while in custody) to a facility to be evaluated. She was kept there for 72 hours, or was supposed to be anyway. I consider that a form of jail. I don't have to read the article, though I did, because I followed the story when it happened, OK.

[blue_onyx]

50. You seem to...

have a reading comprehension problem. The article contradicted everything you said. You say she was arrested and the article says she "could be arrested." You said she was in jail, the article say she was taken to a hospital.

"I don't have to read the article, though I did, because I followed the story when it happened, OK."

I followed Britney's problems probably more than anyone. Clearly more than you did.

BTW, being thrown in jail and being put in a mental ward is not the same thing.

[npk]

52. OK. I am not going to argue this with you

Believe whatever you want to believe. It really makes no difference as to this thread. The only reason I even mention Britney was to draw a comparison as to how many celebrities use the legal system to their advantage.

[npk]

53. OK. I am not going to argue this with you

Believe whatever you want to believe. It really makes no difference as to this thread. The only reason I even mention Britney was to draw a comparison as to how many celebrities use the legal system to their advantage.

[distantearlywarning]

20. Where is the "Who Cares" option? n/t

[Fuzz]

22. +1

[Nye Bevan]

23. Not needed, because people who really don't care won't click on the thread

let alone go to the trouble of posting a reply.

[Bucky]

60. Thank you.

[chrisa]

70. On the contrary, it's annoying that

the media is talking about this garbage when there's two big stories (wars, oil spill) going on.

[tilsammans]

73. The Today Show spent SO MUCH TIME on this story today...

Like it's the only thing we should care about.

I do hope Lindsay straightens up and flies right. But do we really need to hear about this 24/7? :rant:

[slipslidingaway]

24. +2 n/t

[blue_onyx]

37. Who cares?

Apparently you since you cared enough to post this comment.

[PBS Poll-435]

25. Send Dina to Gitmo

Free Lindsay!

[Initech]

29. Sending people to jail for their addiction isn't the way to cure it.

[npk]

32. She doesn't want to go to rehab

That is why she is going to jail. Don't be fooled by her tearful sob story. This is all one big game to her. She wants to drink and have fun. That is why she skipped her initial court appearance and flew out of the country. All of this is a big game to Lohan. She has never taken responsibility for her actions and most likely never will. She is just like Tiger Woods. Tiger runs around town with all sorts of women, then when he finally gets caught, he whines about how he is a sex addict. Whether she is addicted or not she should take responsibility for her actions and suffer the consequences. I don't see what is wrong with serving time in jail and going to rehab. What if she runs a red light drunk and smashes into a car killing a mother and her child. What then? She would still be an addict. Should she be punished for her actions. You can be addicted and still be punished for your actions and receive help at the same time. If the person actually wants help.

[Renew Deal]

34. She skipped out on rehab multiple times

And a court appearance.

[Initech]

35. Skipping out on a court appearance is something she SHOULD be jailed for.

[Renew Deal]

38. That's what pissed off the judge

This wasn't really news until that happened. The prosecutors recommeded 30 days for violating probation. The judge gave her 90!

[LynneSin]

63. She's had driving mishaps that have involved drugs and/or alcohol.

And she refuses to do rehab. Should we just let her on the streets until she kills someone else or herself?

And since neither the father or mother have any interest in getting Lindsey into rehab and her career back on track the judge did what she could do to give Ms Lohan a wake-up call.

I mean at least Brittney Spears had a decent enough father to intervene into Brittney's life and get her life and career back on track.

[jazzelle]

78. Exactly

shes had a tough life....and addiction shouldnt be criminalized.

[usregimechange]

30. Um, yes, and I hope she gets better

[fujiyama]

33. She has a few DUIs. How does she have a license still? Or does she?

Sentence her as anyone else would be. I'd figure at this point, if she were black or poor, or both, or well...anyone else other than who she is, she'd be in a much bigger world of hurt.

It's dumb enough when normal people drink and drive, but when you have the kind of money they do....calling a cab or a limo isn't a big deal.

[Canuckistanian]

39. Celebrities should have their licenses revoked

They're too much of a risk to society.

Oh, except for Betty White.

[Dr.Phool]

42. Who? And for what?

[rrneck]

48. Yes. Long overdue.

Anybody else would have long since been locked up. Better to come down on her now than after she kills somebody.

[guitar man]

49. I hope she gets the help she needs

But i'm not going to cry for her, my poor ass would have been locked up a long time ago if I had pulled half the stuff she has.

[blueamy66]

54. Yes, she deserves the sentence...

but what she really needs is treatment.

Look at the AZ DUI laws....the toughest in the nation....yet there were more DUI arrests this Fourth in
AZ than last year....something has to give....

[DainBramaged]

56. IT NEEDS A 'WHO GIVES A SHIT' OPTION.

:eyes:


This is GD material?

[political_Dem]

57. Yes. But even this will not convince Lindsay Lohan to sober up and get smart.

Besides she would let a lot of Death Hags and Death Poolers down if she decided to wise up and change her life. It's better to have her a ruinous hot mess. ;)

In all seriousness though, there are important issues here at stake--especially when it has to do with the November elections. America needs to be less superficial and fight for the future of the country before the corporations take it.

But, there is one thing to take into context:

This one issue of the young actress' jail sentence continues to rip the glamour of Hollywood wide open as a cess pool of emaciated, over-paid, sallow-cheeked poseurs who have nothing better to do but snort drugs and put their neuroses out for public fodder. Lindsay Lohan only contributes to the downfall of what Hollywood once was.

With the old stars from the Golden Age dying off, the heirs apparent to Tinsel Town are a damned shame.

[npk]

58. More people will watch a building be demolished, than one being built

People love watching a train wrecks. :bounce:

[Bucky]

59. Yes, she deserves the full three year sentence. How DARE she hang that banner in the Senate!!

I'm sorry, perhaps I'm confused about which case you're talking about.

[AzNick]

64. Let this be the bottom that she has to hit

Hopefully her hot Israeli girlfriend will wait for her.

She could also ask Robert Downey Jr for some insight. Getting convicted and serving time helped him, obviously.

[cherish44]

65. Yeah she deserves it but I don't think she'll learn her lesson

And to those who are saying "who cares?" or "who gives a shit?" well...you obviously do... you clicked on this post and read it. Who cares posts are so fucking annoying.

[Nailzberg]

66. Don't know. She was trying to reschedule rehab days, so her lawyer says.

Lindsay has some major problems, yes. She needs to overcome her addictions, first off, and she needs to get her career back on track. To do that, she needs to make movies. But you can't film a move and attend outpatient rehab, the schedule is just too demanding. Its a business that requires shuffling everything in your life around your work days. Especially when you may only book one or two gigs a year, you can't really pass on a project that's gonna be half your income.

Beside her addiction ruining her career, she also has surrounded herself with vultures. No one in her life seems to care about her well-being. I don't normally find myself being sympathetic to a marginally talented airhead millionaire with horrible decision making skills, but she has grown up in a bubble handled by others, so I wonder why no one has intervened until now.

It's hard to dump your family, but she needs to. And her management team? Where was her lawyer when Lindsay was thinking she could take a raincheck and shuffle around her outpatient appointments? She's 24, she could be making moves for the next 50 years, but since she's in a spiral, everyone around her is looking to make as much money off her as quick as they can, and get the hell out. Lindsay's life is collateral damage to them.

Now, I'm not defending her here. And I'm not fan of her movies (Mean Girls was great, but I love everything Tina Fey does) or some teenager who thinks she's hot. But it would be nice if she could live up to her potential and stop ruining my 11 o'clock news every night by being a trainwreck outside some club on the Strip.

Looking at Paris and Nicole's "hard time" in jail, I have a feeling she'll be released straight into rehab as soon as she is processed, and frankly the only thing about that that bothers me is that ALL addicts aren't dealt with that way, because jail isn't appropriate rehabilitation. But she'll only get that treatment so the jail doesn't have the extra resources to protect celebrities. Apparently a celebrity has to kill someone (and get convicted) before the get-out-of-jail-free card disappears.

The best thing the judge did was demand she complete a 90 day inpatient treatment program. It took a total stranger in a black robe to get her the help that may turn her around. And hopefully in that time, she'll realize the people around her aren't helping her at all.

on edit: As I said, I don't think jail is appropraite for drug abusers anyway, so I voted no in the poll. But the inclusion of the treatment program makes it worthy of a Yes vote. And as I said, I don't think she'll spend one overnight in jail. It's quite possible the judge thought that as well, but tacked on the jail term anyway just to add some "wake up, get your shit together, and take this seriously" shock to Lohan's coke-hole brain.

[jazzelle]

67. Lindsay is a horrible victim...

of a rw society that views addiction as a crime.





FREE LINDSAY.

[Renew Deal]

75. Who are drunk driving accident victims of?

:shrug:

[proud2BlibKansan]

68. Don't know, don't care.

:)

[ProdigalJunkMail]

72. answering your question would require some vague idea of what you're talking about...

[slackmaster]

77. She's been handled with kid gloves by the criminal justice system

A poor or middle-class person who did the same things would be serving a long prison sentence by now.

[jazzelle]

80. And some rich ceo would hire some hotshot lawyer...

to get them off.

[jp11]

79. I don't know, as I don't care.

[Hansel]

81. I would prefer 180 days in treatment rather than 90 in jail and 90 in...

treatment. Just like I would prefer for anyone else in her situation. It would cost a hell of a less money in the long run and would be far more productive.