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RobertPlant Donating Member (215 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:03 PM
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in the 1960s and 1970s...
were all the klansmen and birchers whining about British groups like Beatles, Led Zeppelin, Pink Floyd etc. and say stuff like "whatever happened to American exceptionalism?"
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:07 PM
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1. LOL... what are they going to do deny that the 5 greatest bands ever came from the UK?
You listed 3, add The Who and The Stones and you have the 5 greatest rock and roll bands ever. All from England and the kicker is all of them were wholly influenced by American music. Mostly the Blues.

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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:19 PM
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4. You could add:
Mostly the blues... that was created by blacks, the same blacks conservative racists hate. Previous posters were right because the Beatles, Stones and so many other of the greatest bands of all time were influenced by the Blues and Elvis (who also was inspired by music created by black people). I wonder if conservative racists realize they love music inspired by the very people they despise and hate?
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:12 PM
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2. A great many were fans of Judas Priest without knowing Rob Halford was gay
I bet that was a shocker!
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:15 PM
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3. You know, the day he came out....
I said to my girlfriend at the time "I think I just heard 20 million British weenies shrink across the Atlantic..."
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:25 PM
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5. LOL!
:spray:

:thumbsup:
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 10:23 PM
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10. The shocker was that his coming out was greeted with cries of
so what.... The fans couldn't have cared less. Hell if anything he experienced a career resurgence when he came out.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 10:26 PM
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11. Fight wasnt a very good band
But then I never liked speed metal, which was the reason I eventually stopped buying JP albums before he left.
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walldude Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 02:55 PM
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21. Agreed.. but I saw him open for Iron Maiden as "Halford"
and was fairly impressed. Frankly I thought the metalheads wouldn't take his coming out so well but they surprised me. The reception at that show for him was amazing. You could see he was touched.
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LibDemAlways Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:43 PM
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6. When John Lennon was quoted as saying the Beatles
were more popular than Jesus, there was a huge backlash in the Bible belt. DJs encouraged kids to destroy their Beatles' albums. It had less to do with where they were from and more to do with their supposedly bad influence - not only the Jesus comment but everything from their long hair to drug use.



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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:43 PM
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7. Conservatives at that time *hated* rock
They called it jungle music, and as the '60s wore on, they associated it with inner city riots, peaceniks, draft dodgers and hippies

I'm old enough to remember some choice speeches Spiro Agnew gave denouncing youth culture, specifically mentioning the music of the time

I think a good right winger at the time listened to:

- Classical music (preferably Wagner) if they subscribed to National Review
- Country music if they voted for George Wallace
- Gospel hymns if they were worried about christian values under attack
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Manifestor_of_Light Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 09:43 PM
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8. They said they were "Communist", like everything else they don't like.
That's what one guy I know said that his dad said. Wouldn't let him watch the Beatles on Ed Sullivan because they were "Communist".

:wtf:
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 10:12 PM
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9. Yes, that is what the klan/birchers, etc were doing.
Their successors are doing the same thing now.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-06-10 11:20 PM
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12. I don't know about Klansmen and Birchers, but
Edited on Wed Jul-07-10 12:08 AM by Art_from_Ark
growing up in a small town in Arkansas in the '60s, it is interesting to reflect on what did, and not, make it through the "music filter".

I remember getting the Beatles' first American 45 single, I Wanna Hold Your Hand/I Saw Her Standing There at a mom-and-pop shop called Wal-Mart for 29 cents. There was also a Beatles cartoon on TV that came out shortly after that, and I remember watching it on those occasions when I spent Saturday morning at a friend's house, but I don't remember watching it at home. Then, after that show went off the air (and was subsequently replaced by The Monkees), the Beatles seemed to drop off the face of the Earth. I remember skating to Penny Lane at the local skating rink (1967), and hearing an except from Yellow Submarine (Eleanor Rigby) on the Today Show (1968), and getting the paperback Yellow Submarine from my uncle as a birthday present, but for all intents and purposes the Beatles just faded into the background, until my music teacher had us sing "Let It Be" in 1970.

Basically, I heard contemporary music from the following sources (from about 1966 on)

My little transistor radio (local stations in the daytime and WWL-New Orleans at night)
Whatever songs were introduced in music class (including by fellow students during "bring a record from home" days)
Roller skating rink (disk jockey)
Public swimming pool (jukebox)
Music shows on TV

I don't remember any Stones songs at all, or any Pink Floyd. I heard about Led Zeppelin, but didn't know anything about them.

The performers I remember most from that era, from all the above music sources, were:

Herb Alpert and the Tijuana Brass
Diana Ross and the Supremes
Dionne Warwick
Herman's Hermits
Petula Clark
Dusty Springfield
Buck Owens/Roy Clark
Roger Miller
The Who
The Guess Who
The Kinks
The Monkees
The Cowsills (who became the model for the Partridge Family on TV)
Creedance Clearwater
Nancy/Frank Sinatra
Dean Martin
Tom Jones
Donovan
Simon and Garfunkel
The Ventures
The Mamas and the Papas
Loving Spoonful
The Doors
The Turtles



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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 01:57 AM
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13. you forgot Tin Tin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a1SenDxZAbA

Toast and Marmalade for Tea
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:00 AM
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14. I think this is the first time I've ever heard of Tin Tin
I see the video is from 1970. By that time, my little transistor radio had played its last hurrah, the skating rink was closed, they took and the juke box away from the swimming pool area. No wonder I don't remember them. LOL.
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:31 AM
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16. I thought it was worth sharing.
There were so many songs that didn't chart high enough to get airplay today on those oldies stations.

Now I have to reconstruct my childhood musical memories by way of youtube. That's both cool and sad at the same time.

Lots of good stuff that's kind of "lost".
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:22 AM
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23. Have you tried the Internet radio station
KeepFreeMusic.com ? They play a bunch of the older stuff, some of it is Top 10 stuff, and some of it is long forgotten, like Lily the Pink and I Was Kaiser Bill's Batman
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Morning Dew Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 02:37 AM
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24. thanks!
that looks like it's worth a look.

:)
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-09-10 06:55 AM
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25. If you have iTunes
you should be able to access it from the "Golden Oldies" section of the iTunes radio :)
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:45 AM
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19. I remember a few you did not mention
Janis and Big Brother, Jimmy Hendricks, Stepenwolf, Vanilla Fudge, Cream, Jefferson Airplane, Santana, Sonny and Cher, well the list is actually quite long.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-08-10 09:30 AM
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22. I just mentioned the ones that I remembered
from the music sources that I was exposed to in the late '60s.

I knew Sonny and Cher from their TV show, but I associated that with the '70s.

The only thing I ever heard about Joplin and Hendrix was some news about their deaths.
Jefferson Airplane was probably a little too psychadelic for my part of the world.
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JHB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 03:31 AM
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15. Actually, they were.
Their main whine was about "undermining the morals of our youth and paving the way for International Communism to take us over."
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:34 AM
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17. I know a lot of evangelicals accused them of being satanic n/t
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deutsey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 10:34 AM
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18. I know a lot of evangelicals accused them of being satanic n/t
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-07-10 12:52 PM
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20. That's why the klansmen and birchers dug the Stooges and Velvet Underground
well, after Cale left the Velvets
"They are Amurrican degenerates, by gawwwd!"
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