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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:21 AM
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Wingnut "reporter" calling Rolling Stone's HASTINGS a liar (on with Mistah KURTZ)
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 10:52 AM by UTUSN
She is one Lara LOGAN of CBS News. She said about HASTINGS's claim that there were no ground rules in the McCRYSTAL article, "IF YOU BELIEVE HIM." She said that this is well nigh incredible based on McCRYSTAL's experience in (operations/communications). Well, now, Lara, that IS precisely THE point, now, ain't it.

"When you start an article with McCRYSTAL making obscene gestures, that's not even quoting him."


Sounds like the grapes are sour. She said that she, by contrast, has never been seen by her contacts to be partisan. Hmmm. Otoh, she says, "Somebody like HASTINGS would probably look at my work and say it was" slanted towards getting further access. Yip, that's the ticket.



On Edit: So, Lara, in your mind McCRYSTAL's lack of judgment plus lack of preparedness in handling or predicting an adversarial situation does NOT add up to INCOMPETENCE for leading a war operation?!1
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:23 AM
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1. Lara Logan is beautiful, articulate, and has an agenda...
now we may know a little more about it.

Thanks...I missed howie this AM
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:54 AM
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6. Look for the video to be posted later.
At the very least it will leave you scratching your head. The kind of "reporting" that will leave you saying :wtf:
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PCIntern Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:51 AM
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16. she, and all her brethren, are just jealous...
she has quite a history, both personal and professional.

BTW, the same thing happened with Watergate...lots of backbiting and rage after the fact, 'cause the other reporters were too 'whatever' to follow up all the leads. Morans, the lot of 'em....
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starroute Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:48 PM
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32. I think Logan has had an agenda for a while
In 2007, she was getting favorable notice from the left for saying the Iraq War was going badly. But most of the time she just seems to be passing along the Pentagon line. Here's something from 2008, for example, that appears to have been a pure concoction:

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2008/08/01/eveningnews/main4316193.shtml

Ayman al-Zawahiri - the second most powerful leader in al Qaeda and Osama Bin Laden's No. 2 - may be critically wounded and possibly dead, CBS News chief foreign affairs correspondent Lara Logan reports exclusively.

CBS News has obtained a copy of an intercepted letter from sources in Pakistan, which urgently requests a doctor to treat al-Zawahiri. He's believed to be somewhere in Pakistan's remote tribal areas of Pakistan.

The letter refers to Sheikh Dr. Ayman al-Zawahiri by name - and says that he is in "severe pain" and his "injuries are infected."

{Following the broadcast of this report, Taliban officials denied that al-Zawahiri was injured or killed in any missile attack.}

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Bonhomme Richard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:33 AM
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2. LOL, she doesn't want to end up like Ashleigh Banfield.
She got the message about where your career is going if you rock the boat.
Another point..if everyone doesn't think you are partisan then you are not doing your job. If the truth were told you are bound to piss off somebody and that's a fact.
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Cass Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:36 AM
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3. She illustrated perfectly what Hastings had just been talking about regarding
so-called journalists basically kissing ass to secure access. The more she ripped into him, the more she illustrated his earlier comments thus bolstering his credibility.

She came off looking really bad in that interview.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:49 AM
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5. And this woman has a job posing as a jounalist why?
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 10:50 AM by depakid
Not that long back, she would have been out in the unemployment line- or selling her looks in a more "appropriate" profession.
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LawnKorn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 10:44 AM
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4. True or not, McChrystal use the event to exit his position as commander of Afghanistan
McChrystal didn't even put up a fight, he just bailed out at the first opportunity. The good General probably has inside information that compels him to abandon the war, the Army, and his careerer rather that weather the storm that is about to blow up from the Near East.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:00 AM
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7. Didn't I read somewhere that McCrystal's people read the article and
signed off on it? So what does that have to say about all those blaming RS. McCrystal wanted out, he knew or should have known how to act in front of a reporter after all these years.
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:08 AM
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8. That was a travesty. And certainly part of the Push Back Conspiracy.
As noted in an earlier thread from kpete:

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McChrystal article author warns of "push back" through CNN
by barrettbrown

Fri Jun 25, 2010 at 11:41:21 AM PDT

I've just spoken to Michael Hastings, author of the Rolling Stone piece that took down Gen. Stanley McChrystal, and he's now reporting that certain parties are engineering a push back by way of such reliable conduits as Barbara Starr at CNN.

hey dude, the military is about to launch a counterattack against the story. total b.s., of course. they all have lost their jobs, the top pr guy duncan boothby resigned in shame because he fucked up, and now, a week later, they've finally started to grasp for straws. Might make for an interesting blog at huffpo tho if you were so inclined! I'm about to get on a 14 hour flight, so will be out of pocket.

best,

mh

look for barbara starr at cnn and the WaPo


more
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2010/6/25/879330/-McChrystal-article-author-warns-of-push-back-through-CNN
-----------------------------------------
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8634280&mesg_id=8634280


However, that link at Kos is gone, just like the few others I could find that had referenced this Hastings comment:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8634280&mesg_id=8634679


Somebody on the other side has some awesome push back chops.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:15 AM
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9. Too bad...she used to call it like it was in Iraq
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Beaverhausen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:16 AM
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10. Lara Logan is not a wingnut
no matter what she said in this interview.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:20 AM
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11. she was this am.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:26 AM
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12. I'll defer because I have never heard/seen her before (what's "CBS"?!1). But I call most people I
dislike "wingnuts" just because if they are espousing something antagonistic to my Dem world view, they're wingnuts to me. As most of the other posters besides me have said, she came across as (politically reactionary, my words). I would say that she put forth a personal animus towards HASTINGS, very hostile, very attacking. As many threads have pointed out in the past week, his article went way beyond the attention-getting quotes to solid information about the civilian-military conduct of the war and policy camps.

Now, that said, I really am interested in your take on LOGAN (and I'm not being sarcastic). Care to sum her up?
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:40 AM
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13. I thought she worked for VH-1.
Different Lara Logan?
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:42 AM
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14. I don't know who she is. I went by the screen caption just to see her name. n/t
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:46 AM
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15. CBS (from Google). Oh, SHE's the one (hot affair in Iraq)!1
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 11:46 AM by UTUSN
**********QUOTE********

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/06/25/lara-logan-sex-scandal-cb_n_109271.html

Lara Logan Sex Scandal: CBS' New Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent At Center of Divorce War: Report


.... Lara Logan, who has been CBS News Chief Foreign Correspondent since February 2006 and has reported from war zones for 17 years, was recently named Chief Foreign Affairs Correspondent for the network. But that's not the juiciest news of the week surrounding Logan, who made headlines last week after appearing on the "Daily Show" and slamming American coverage of the Iraq war.

According to a National Enquirer report, Logan is at the center of a bitter divorce between Joe and Kimberly Burkett. Joe Burkett is a U.S. State Department contractor who was in Baghdad alongside Logan, which is reportedly where the affair began. ... ....

********UNQUOTE********
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:53 AM
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17. Ah, I found it.
She hosted a series on VH-1 that featured old 60 Minutes interviews with musicians. That's where I heard of her. I had no idea she was a bigwig at CBS news.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 11:55 AM
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18. "What are we supposed to DO, JUDGE Lara Logan?!1 How could we DO that?!1"
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:27 PM
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23. Same one. Same owner (Viacom?).
**********QUOTE********

http://www.movieweb.com/news/NEI4lMMN7Y0rLR

Classic 60 Minutes Music Series Heading to VH1 Classics


December 19th, 2007
VH1 Classic is tapping into the archives of the award-winning CBS News broadcast 60 Minutes for the new series Classic 60 Minutes, which revisits some of the biggest names in pop and rock music, including Billy Joel, Bruce Springsteen, Tina Turner, Ray Charles, Elton John, Sting and The Eagles. The first episode, focusing on Eric Clapton, premieres Sunday, January 6, 2008 at 8:00 PM*.

CBS News correspondent Lara Logan will host the new half-hour series featuring past 60 Minutes interviews expanded with never-before-seen footage and conversations. Classic 60 Minutes will provide viewers with an intimate snapshot of their favorite artists complete with in-depth details and insights as well as an update from Logan on recent news about these icons.

Lara Logan is the chief foreign correspondent for CBS News and has filed reports for the CBS Evening News, 60 Minutes, and the CBS Radio Network. She also was just named one of Glamour Magazine's 2007 "Women of the Year." ....


Classic 60 Minutes debuts on the heels of VH1 Classic's critically acclaimed Seven Ages of Rock, the BBC co-production documentary series that premiered on December 17.

********UNQUOTE********
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:00 PM
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19. I think the M$M is mad because an alt news source reported on
what the corporate reporters won't - that the war in Iraq is out of control.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:04 PM
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20. Lara Logan is not a wingnut
She is a thoughtful, reputable journalist. I haven't seen today's interview with her but I've seen there's quite a bit of kerfuffle about it. I will reserve judgment until I watch said interview.

As for people bringing her personal romantic life into this in order to somehow discredit her, those people should be ashamed.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:19 PM
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21. O.K., you & #10 both said she's not a wingnut. I explained my use of the word above.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 12:21 PM by UTUSN
I also said I didn't know anything about her and didn't bring up "her personal romantic life" until after I Googled her and remembered the flap from back then.

That said, since you're obviously referring to me, I didn't bring that topic up "in order to somehow discredit her." I have nothing to be ashamed of. Otoh, it *does* raise questions about her motivation in her criticism of HASTING, or, rather, in how personal and pointed her criticism was.

So, apart from the "personal romantic" part, you yourself (like her) appear to be insinuating that somebody YOU (or she) don't agree with (me) must NOT be relaying a fair or true picture of something *I* DID see? That's what you're doing, saying whatever I said is not reliable, true, or fair. So, while you added a bit more to your assertion that she "is not a wingnut," by saying "She is thoughtful, reputable," uh, why should *I* believe YOU?!1 (If you don't extend the same to me?) By the bye, most of the other posters who *did* see it, agreed.

You (and #10) might include a brief summary (like, "she questioned Shrub administration sources, pointed out their distortions") or links to commentary about her work, without falling back on personal innuendo. I said from near the beginning that I had no clue who she was, or rather didn't remember until Google refreshed my memory. I still don't know about her reporting, but am nearly at zero interest in it by now.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:28 PM
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24. Here
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:55 PM
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26. O.K., saw it. Thanks for Jon STEWART!1 "You remind me of a young Ted KOPPEL"!1 Ha-HAH!1
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 12:58 PM by UTUSN
O.K., now, my impressions, in no order:

1) She's hot.

2) She's been in danger for 5 yrs (at the time of this clip).

3) She's appreciative, might be said, "pro-" military, or appreciative of what the combat troops are going through---"I've seen dead American soldier" and "was Armageddon and troops where thrown into it".

4) Her media bosses filter out combat level reporting.

5) She(?) felt responsible for the American publics not knowing what's going on over there?

6) So, she DISCOVERED (for herself) the horror of war. Yip, everybody who is exposed discovers it for themselves and believes nobody else has ever understood it before.

7) Jon is absolutely, unF***ingBelievably brilliant!1

8) She does a fair amount of self-promoting about how rough and tough she is, how she "breaks down walls" and threatens bosses with (insert current ammo-jargon here) in order to get interviews and to get her stuff on the air. I guess if I take note of her using the phrase "did a lot of crawling on my knees" it will be seen as an unfair reference to "her personal romantic life."


But relating to the issue at hand --my sloppy use of the word "wingnut" and her performance TODAY: The clip is virtually content-free of how good/accurate or wingnut-free her actual product is. After all, Judy MILLER did a lot of networking with HER sources, too.

And, her performance with Jon was very SWEET and heartfelt in talking about the horror of combat. It hardly seems like the same person I saw this morning, who was BITTER and PERSONALLY RIPPING. But it was (the same person). I still have no clue about her reportage, and probably never will, since I don't even know where (CBS) to watch her. I hope this shows I at least looked at your supporting information before further shooting my mouth off.


On Edit: But once again, this shows yet again how I tend to get my threads thrown off course by my careless use of ONE word (or more)!1 Ha-HAH!1
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:58 PM
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27. you saw what i saw. a disgruntled, bitter reporter blaming her colleague for his good work.
Edited on Sun Jun-27-10 12:59 PM by spanone
today she was NOT on a comedy show. she was serious as a heart attack.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:00 PM
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28. Thanks. Validation from you means a lot to me. n/t
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:15 PM
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29. That's why it was so disappointing, based on her previous professionalism.

I otherwise much admire her reporting that I've seen. Hence, the let-down. (Well, that and the personal stuff, which I had not known about until now but which may have some professional spillover.)

Hearing this crap from Geraldo et al., I wouldn't have even blinked.

It's beneath her. I have to think that the brass are either calling in years of favors, or maybe blackmailing with other home-wrecker stuff etc.

Something smells like a big fat commie rat.

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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:15 PM
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30. And I admit
I have yet to read the RS article. I read the transcript from today's CNN/Kurtz thing - which I rarely do because Howard Kurtz is a fucking hack.

I think what we have here brings to light what was so wrong when BushCo instigated that whole embedded reporter thing. The practice is insidious yet brilliant because the embeds become too attached to the forces protecting them. They begin to respond as trained: Favorable coverage equals access. What's even more despicable is that our US media were also conditioned to this behavior by the Bush administration. They've become too ingrained in the belief that access equals reportage. There is not a Jack Anderson among the bunch of them.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:23 PM
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31. it is really sad when a reporter attacks another for reporting...regardless of who they are/were
you're right about the imbedding...it's controlling the message or denying access...report what we want or you're gone....has nothing to do with democracy.
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 01:48 PM
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33. Thanks for that. Well said, & I can't think when I've disagreed with your other posts. n/t
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:23 PM
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22. i knew nothing of her past, she was 100% pro mcchrystal
BLAMED it on the reporter

said the reporter had never served in the military.....so?

she sure sounded like a HUGE wingnut
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TacticalPeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jun-27-10 12:34 PM
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25. "I mean, Michael Hastings has never served his country the way McChrystal has." Lara Logan

Fuck that troop sniffing shit.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1006/27/rs.01.html

TacticalPeek, Army, US, 69-71

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