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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:07 AM Original message |
I just added 2+2 and got 4. The Medicare re-imbursement cuts+ the Defict Commission |
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kiva (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
1. If medicare dies, so will many Americans. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:00 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. Please skip to Post 17 to read the OP as it was originally intended.nt |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:22 AM Response to Original message |
2. Paul Ryan on deficit commission. Big supporter of vouchers & President Obama expressed 'interest'... |
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Jackpine Radical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:23 AM Response to Original message |
3. A wolf in a donkey suit. |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:24 AM Response to Original message |
4. I do believe you're right |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:36 AM Response to Reply #4 |
15. do yourself a favor -- call around to see if you have doctors in your are that will TAKE Medicare |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. thank you so much for that advice! .... disheartening as it is ... |
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Donnachaidh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:57 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. In my experience it's been the larger cities that have doctors saying NO |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #24 |
49. That's why weakening Medicare Advantage is so awful |
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jgraz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:28 AM Response to Original message |
5. Pete Peterson must be laughing and lighting up a big stogie |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:06 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Mother Jones article on Pete Peterson and the Deficit Commission |
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Art_from_Ark (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 07:26 AM Response to Reply #5 |
65. Lighting up his stogie with a $100 bill |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
6. I've always seen that. |
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rucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
7. well fuck a duck |
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CrispyQ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:37 AM Response to Original message |
8. Dems & repubs alike are salivating over those funds. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 10:56 AM Response to Original message |
9. Scary signposts. |
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Larry Ogg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:03 AM Response to Original message |
10. Just one of the many happy little consequences we must endure for... |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:16 AM Response to Original message |
12. The same Town Halls that were effective at killing off Health Reform are revving up for SS & Medicar |
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Spheric (512 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
13. We are watching a dismantling of social programs that even Bush couldn't get away with. |
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Poboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:25 AM Response to Original message |
14. Following your theory -It took Clinton to pass NAFTA,etc. |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #14 |
50. agreed |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:48 AM Response to Reply #14 |
60. ^ I remember that well, PoBoy ^ |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:38 AM Response to Original message |
16. I'm not sure I understand how vouchers are different than the current |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:56 AM Response to Reply #16 |
18. The old person gets a voucher to pay for their health care. When it's gone, it's gone. |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #18 |
66. I've long referred to the GOP as the YOYO (You're On Your Own) Party. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. Here is Zeke Emanual himself on how he views a voucher system |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #22 |
29. also, they promote more concentration in the industry. |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:48 AM Response to Original message |
17. BUMMER!!! The 3rd link was left out in the OP |
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deaniac21 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
19. At 60, I see my life ending sooner than my parents did. With less |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. yes, my father is now 94, & I often wonder whether I will live to see that |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:06 PM Response to Reply #19 |
43. Remember what retirement used to look like? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 08:07 AM Response to Reply #43 |
67. Only if you're very lucky. You'll need a job AND good health. |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #67 |
80. And good health CARE |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
23. K&R |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
25. Yep, the Health Insurance Profit Enhancement Act sowed the seeds of destruction |
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chill_wind (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
26. K & R. n/t |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
28. i think that's the sop. starve it til it "fails" then introduce the "solution" you've been building |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 02:41 PM Response to Original message |
30. k&r - well done, thank you. nt |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 03:53 PM Response to Original message |
31. Recommend |
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Horse with no Name (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
32. Sigh. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 05:31 PM Response to Original message |
33. well, we can't have giant military fiascos AND a social safety net. i mean, really. |
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scentopine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #33 |
48. Very true - sad part is centrist swarm argues this point every day here, for real -nt |
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Little Star (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 05:47 PM Response to Original message |
34. k&r |
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Telly Savalas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:07 PM Response to Original message |
35. The reimbursement cuts have been rescinded. Reimbursements are going up 2.2% |
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Moosepoop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:21 PM Response to Reply #35 |
38. Ah, thanks for that! |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #38 |
56. It is only till Nov right before the election |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:08 PM Response to Original message |
36. A sneaky, backdoor way of destroying Medicare |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
37. K & R. nt |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:36 PM Response to Original message |
39. Protecting Seniors' Care |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 07:48 PM Response to Reply #39 |
40. The President wants to "permanently reform the Medicare formula |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. This is why HCR created a whole new health insurance system |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. Exactly! nt |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:04 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. The link is to the White House website |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 09:36 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. "It's the people he has assigned to do the reforming that I'm afraid of. " |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 08:51 PM Response to Original message |
44. You just accused the Obama administration of conspiring to reduce a part of the social safety net |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:16 AM Response to Reply #44 |
68. Was rather surprised myself. |
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nashville_brook (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #68 |
75. what if, instead of doctors taking pay cuts, the insurance companies took the hit. it's not like |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. My BIL who works for a food distribution |
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moriah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 07:39 PM Response to Reply #78 |
81. IMHO.... |
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johnaries (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
47. . |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:30 AM Response to Original message |
51. Firedog Lake published an interview with Alan Simpson in |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #51 |
52. Then Obama should not allow them. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:50 AM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Republicans like Rahm Emanuel's brother who is an advisor to the administration? |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
53. Hey! The Catfood Commission has an email addy! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:48 AM Response to Original message |
54. why are doctors ALLOWED to deny Medicare? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:49 AM Response to Reply #54 |
57. Because |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:54 AM Response to Reply #57 |
62. Drs have expenses too. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:09 PM Response to Reply #57 |
76. hmmm...then it sounds like some of the more pessimistic in this thread are right |
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quiet.american (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
55. June 26, 2010 - House passes 6-month Medicare 'doc fix,' Obama to sign bill. |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:46 AM Response to Reply #55 |
59. Since Dems are the majority how could Repubs stop the legislation? |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. I posted that Congress was destabilizing Medicare due to missed deadlines & inadequate fixes |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 02:43 PM Response to Reply #73 |
77. I can tell you that we did not |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 03:05 PM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Thank you mojorabbit for supporting my point |
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Mimosa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
58. I'm scared for me and my partner when we get to medicare age |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 04:59 AM Response to Reply #58 |
63. It is "Health Insurance Reform" according to a video I saw of Obama the other day. |
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Honeycombe8 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 05:03 AM Response to Original message |
64. What about the link where Congress stops reductions to Medicare payments to drs.? |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 11:43 AM Response to Reply #64 |
72. It is set to drop by 30% in Jan. nt |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #64 |
74. See my post 73 for my answer. nt |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
69. well privatizing public education is rolling right along..... |
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fishbulb703 (492 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 09:58 AM Response to Original message |
70. Voucher is newspeak for corporate |
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colsohlibgal (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-27-10 10:25 AM Response to Original message |
71. Bad Math For Seniors |
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Phoebe Loosinhouse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 05:36 AM Response to Reply #71 |
82. Exactly. |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-28-10 06:00 AM Response to Original message |
83. If I were to bet.... |
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