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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:26 AM Original message |
Labor Notes: GM: New Workers Now Make 20% Less than Average Manufacturing Worker |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:30 AM Response to Original message |
1. Mission Accomplished |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. exactly! this was crux of the take-over deal: busting the union |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:55 AM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Yep, and it's obvious. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. Shareholders were wiped out. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Common stock, yes. The stock holders that matter go two options, |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. No bond holders were given equity stake. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. yes, and let's see how their imperiled pension fund fares; it's VERY worrisome |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 11:59 AM Response to Original message |
4. If they're gonna take cuts like that, may as well be a Walmart greeter |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. this is what has been designed for american workers. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:41 PM Response to Reply #7 |
12. you're right, no accident; this was part of the deal of the takeover: gutting the UAW |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. And BOTH parties are guilty of it. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. exactly! It's this current administration that presided over massive weakening of the UAW contract |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:33 PM Response to Original message |
8. The last line seems confusing. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. ? it means hard-wrought union wages have been destroyed by the GM takeover |
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izzybeans (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #11 |
15. I want to understand how horrific, but the line makes an unfair comparison. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #15 |
16. how is it an unfair comparison? |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Because the first statement is average worker. The second statement is new hires.. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:44 PM Response to Original message |
13. & those high wages held up the rest of labor's. more cuts coming. |
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amborin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-25-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. exactly! both held them up & raised them in the 1st place |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:15 AM Response to Original message |
20. This has been the trend for unions for a long time |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-26-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
21. Nibelungen |
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