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apples and oranges Donating Member (772 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:42 AM
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New study finds that lesbian parents raise superior children
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 09:44 AM by apples and oranges

A new 24-year study published in the journal Pediatrics, found that the children of lesbian parents have fewer behavioral problems and higher intelligence than their peers.

Researchers followed 78 children conceived through artificial insemination between 1986 and 1992 to lesbian mothers. The data was collected through a series of interviews and questionnaires completed when the children were 10 and 17-years-old. The study also incorporated a standard psychological test, the Child Behavior Checklists, completed by the mothers at corresponding intervals. The results were measured against the average scores of children from the greater population.

The 17-year-old offspring of lesbian parents rated significantly higher in social, school/academic, and total competence and significantly lower in social problems, rule-breaking, and aggressive behavior than their peers.


http://blogs.creativeloafing.com/dailyloaf/2010/06/08/new-study-finds-that-lesbian-parents-raise-superior-children/

I found out about this study while reading the article "Are Fathers Necessary?" by Pamela Paul
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 09:53 AM
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1. Funny that a contributor called "apples and oranges" would post this
...The real factor contributing to the success of these children may not be the sexual orientation of their parents, but their parents’ conscious choice to have children. These kids did not result from accidental pregnancies. Their mothers planned for these children. These parents also tended to be older and at a point in their life where they were ready for children. As a result, these mature mothers may have been more involved and active than non-willing parents. To control for this discrepancy, these children should have been measured against the children of heterosexual parents who used artificial insemination....

Welcome to DU, apples and oranges!

:hi:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:04 AM
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4. That was my first thought when seeing the headlines
While I will not discount the effects of having two females involved, this seems like a more obvious factor: they actually wanted to have the children. That makes all the difference in the world.

Are Fathers Necessary? No. Are mothers? No. Are good parents? Yes.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:31 AM
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8. Simply controlling the study for the age of the parents would make it a lot stronger
Personal experience has told me that single parents, gay or lesbian couples, and heterosexual couples are all capable of raising good children; but immature people tend not to do as good a job as do people with more perspective.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:41 AM
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11. And to add, only study heterosexual couples who need artificial insemination
:)

Then the comparison would have far less variables, focusing on parents who all jumped through some hoops to conceive a child they planned for and wanted.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:43 AM
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14. But what about gay male couples, for whom artificial insemination is not an option
WON'T SOMEONE PLEASE STAND UP FOR THE TWO-DAD FAMILIES?

:grouphug:
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:00 AM
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2. Some children are superior to others?
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Barack_America Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:08 AM
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7. My thought as well nt.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:33 AM
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9. I have to question the measures the researchers chose
Good grades are all well and good, but is lower aggression always best?

Would the results have been different if they had included whether or not the children can use hand tools, or change a tire? (I'm not trying to say that lesbians or women in general can't teach those things, but I believe more of us learned those skills from male parents than from female ones.)
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:43 AM
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12. Its always going to be arbitrary
Maybe the real measurement has to be happiness with their lives, and how they adjusted post high-school. Its not easy to measure all this, so some leaps have to be taken.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:02 AM
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3. So the issue is that parents who make the choice, who have the choice
to become parents tend to be better parents.

Yet another reason to support safe, easy and affordable access to birth control.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:05 AM
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5. Agree
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:07 AM
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6. and yet, our govt accommodates abstinence only appointees
and funds stupid, idiotic and HARMFUL abstinence-only educational programs to this day in states. States who insist on abstinence-only programs, imo, should be denied federal educational funds.

that would make them pay attention to something other than their own religious idiocy.
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Brickbat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:41 AM
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10. In addition to people who make a conscious effort to have wanted children, they also have the money
to do so. Spermz ain't cheap.
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tranche Donating Member (913 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:43 AM
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13. Bell Curves are back?
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:44 AM
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15. I would not call any child "superior" to another child. nt
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Gormy Cuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 10:45 AM
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16. The study simply reports the outcomes for this set of children.
It's not designed to provide the answers to why this panel of children rated higher than peers. The authors point to some possible reasons for it but they don't have enough data to conclude why there was this difference.

What the study does show very clearly is that children raised with lesbian parents aren't doomed, psychologically-damaged individuals. That's a smack in the face to the people who trot out the line about studies showing that children raised by a father and mother do best. The problem with ALL such studies is that they were comparing only heterosexual families.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:00 AM
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17. The "superior" children bugs me. That said, there is a slipperly slope re artificial
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 11:01 AM by OmmmSweetOmmm
insemination. Were the sperm donors friends or selected from a sperm bank based on their IQ and other attractive attributes in the profiles? Designer kids partially superior due to genetics.
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struggle4progress Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:41 AM
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18. " ... results were based on data collected through self reporting ... "
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Llewlladdwr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:47 AM
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19. Indeed.
"Lesbian parents report that their children are superior to the children of non-lesbians" is hardly shocking. I'm fairly sure that almost ALL parents will self-report that their children are better, smarter and faster than the offspring of others.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 11:49 AM
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20. Lesbian superchildren are our superiors.
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formernaderite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:09 PM
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21. Not surprising
You've got TWO mothers on the job!!!
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