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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:28 PM
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What happened with Al Gore, a logical deduction
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 10:45 PM by murdoch
*LATE EDIT* - OK, there are two scenarios. One is he is completely innocent and this woman was never in his hotel room. Here is scenario two if she was.

What happened is thus -

In 2006 he went to Oregon. Like Vitter, Spitzer, etc., he hired a prostitute. If she is not a prostitute, then you have to swallow the idea that she is a Oregonian woman in her late 40s who travels to men's hotel rooms, and they pay her hundreds of dollars solely to massage them half-naked. The idea is completely ludicrous.

She comes in and recognizes him as Al Gore. Whatever happens - they have sex, they don't. Can I imagine a guy, stupidly or not, hiring a prostitute and having sex with her? Yes. Including Al Gore. Do I believe her claims that she is a cherubic masseuse who is shocked at being propositioned for sex the first time? That Gore "violently" forced himself on her, and would not let her go despite protestations? I don't believe that whatsoever.

She is prostitute in her late 40s. She hires this lawyer, who supposedly is an expert at getting money for sexual misconduct. A few months after she sees Gore, she goes to the police with Vogt. This is in 2006.

Now she brings it back by selling it as an exclusive story to the National Enquirer.

Two things to consider for Gore - he is saying no comment, and his wife, who surely knows about this request for money to keep quiet, just left him.

Her story that she is a woman in her late 40s who travels to men's hotel rooms alone to massage them half-naked for hundreds of dollars, but she is a little angel is beyond incredulous. Then she goes and hires this ambulance chaser, and talks to the police months later. Years later she sells the story to the National Enquirer.

She is obviously a prostitute. She is now in her 50s and she lucked out hitting her meal ticket before she entered her 50s. The idea that she is little miss innocent who is violently attacked by Gore is beyond belief.

Obviously Gore was dumb in all of this. Also obvious is that she is a prostitute, that he never forced her to do anything, and she is looking for a big payout. She just got one from the National Enquirer.
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:32 PM
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1. If what you say is true
then he should not have hired a prostitute.

He wanted to get screwed, and according to you he did. Sounds fair
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HipChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:32 PM
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2. It happened in 2006, and she is 54 today, so she was 50 when it happened..

sounds like her income sources are drying up...
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Jennicut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:33 PM
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3. All of what you said is pure speculation and has no factual basis.
He hired a prostitute? Says who, you?
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Politics_Guy25 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:37 PM
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4. Why do you think Tipper and Al are getting divorced?
A marriage like that doesn't just fall apart because they grew tired of each other's interests.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:40 PM
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10. The allegation is from 2006.
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 11:38 PM by LisaL
I fail to see what does it have to do with the divorce. What, it took four years for Tipper to decide to leave Al over this?
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WinkyDink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:01 AM
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26. No; it took 4 years for the NE to get ready to MAKE IT PUBLIC. They gave Tipper a heads-up.
Edited on Fri Jun-25-10 12:02 AM by WinkyDink
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:07 AM
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28. Why would NE wait four years if they knew this four years ago?
What, was it checking and then re-checking it for years and years? It just has that kind of reputation to uphold?
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Zoeisright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:50 PM
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12. No one else ever knows what goes wrong in a marriage,
except the two people involved.
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704wipes Donating Member (966 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:34 AM
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30. maybe now to protect assets from this 'lady' ??
nt
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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:38 PM
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5. Well...
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 10:39 PM by murdoch
1) He was in town at the time she says this happened
2) He is saying "No comment" about this. If he never saw her - why doesn't he just deny it?
3) Why did Tipper just leave him? Maybe she knew this was coming down the road. Why split up after decades together? This seems like a good reason.

I am actually defending him. I don't think he physically forced anyone into anything. I also don't think she would be shocked that someone would proposition her sexually. It logically seems he propositioned her. Whatever happened afterward was consensual - whether anything happened or not.

If he didn't see her, why is he saying no comment?

I am defending him from the worst parts of it. Although hiring her would be dumb anyhow.
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Merlot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:33 AM
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29. 1.) Well of course he was in town at the time she says this happened
it would be very easy to know if Al Gore was in town IMO. Especially if she is a "massage therapist" who probably knows people at hotels.

2.) He is smart to say no comment, probably legally protecting himself. Besides, defending your self against all the crazies is to time consuming.

3.) Who know if Tipper left him or he left her?



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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:38 PM
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6. What is your source? What proof are you citing?
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murdoch Donating Member (658 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:39 PM
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8. Why is he saying no comment?
If he denied it, I would think differently.
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snagglepuss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:47 PM
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11. Please answer the questions I asked. On what are you basing these
allegations? Have you or someone else simply concocted them from thin air? Where is hard proof for these allegations? What is your source?
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:39 PM
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7. Your first sentence is pure speculation
And the rest is built on that speculation.

I'll wait for some facts (if there are any).
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:39 PM
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9. Who the hell (let alone AL Gore) would hire a fifty year old prostitute.
Prostitutes don't age like regular woman...


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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:51 PM
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14. Fetishists?
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:58 PM
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15. Is that her? Wow!
Now, I'm no expert, and I certainly don't know what turns Al's crank, but... Seriously?
:wow:
Generally, one would think a wealthy, powerful man would go for the hot, young, Playboy-Bunny-type prostitute. I mean, he can afford it, and those girls are paid to be discreet. It's why they make the big bucks and get the big-shot clients.
Sorry, I just can't see it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:50 PM
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13. Al Gore always gets into trouble every time he comes to Oregon.
I don't get it.

:shrug:
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Angry Dragon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:59 PM
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25. It's all the waterfalls and mountains
it brings out the animal in him
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Yeahyeah Donating Member (741 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:06 PM
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16. He may have made a comment about her "hot globes" but that was all.
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Rage for Order Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:10 PM
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17. That whore!!!
Those damn women need to stop whoring themselves out like that

:sarcasm:
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demigoddess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:14 PM
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18. what if he asked for a real massage therapist and the concierge
sent him a prostitute. That i can believe, none of this other junk
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:16 PM
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19. I suspect you're closer to the truth than anything she's claimed.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:29 PM
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20. One thing that proves she lied....
she said he was listening to a song called Pink something. The song was not released til six months after she said the incident occurred. Why do you think the police said there was no evidence. She better leave well enough alone. Trying to extort money is a felony. Look what just happened when they said Van Sloot tried to extort money out of Halloway's mother. She can get up to 35 years. And if I were Gore I would prosecute. After all they can prove she lied about the song, so they whole scenario must be a lie.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:36 PM
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21. According to wikipedia, the album with a song on it was
released on April 4, 2006.
The incident with Gore was supposed to have happened in October 2006.
So, that's just ain't so.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:41 PM
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22. Sounds like defamation
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PM Martin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:42 PM
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23. I am not buying this.
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SunsetDreams Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 11:46 PM
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24. There are way too many arm chair "jurist" in this country n/t
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 12:04 AM
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27. Wouldn't be surprised if some right-winger put her up to this
They've been trying desperately to tear down Al Gore because of his stance on global warming and climate change. Wouldnt' surprise me in the least if some right-winger got ahold of this woman and put her up to this stunt.
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