Second Oil Well Now Leaking Into Gulf, While Oil Leaks Through Seabed Around BP's Well

[ElsewheresDaughter]

The Alabama Press-Register reported Monday evening June 07, 2010 that there has been a second oil well leaking into the Gulf of Mexico about 12 miles offshore from Louisiana since April 30, only a week or so after BP's Deepwater Horizon rig exploded and sank April 20 causing a so far unending gusher of oil into the waters from the gulf seabed.

The second leak "visible from space in multiple images gathered by Skytruth.org, which monitors environmental problems using satellites" is from a well drilled by Ocean Saratoga, a drilling rig owned and operated under contract by Diamond Offshore for well owner Taylor Energy Co.

While the leak is decidedly smaller than the Deepwater Horizon spill, a 10-mile-long slick emanating from the Ocean Saratoga is visible from space in multiple images gathered by Skytruth.org, which monitors environmental problems using satellites.

Federal officials did not immediately respond when asked about the size of the leak, how long it had been flowing, or whether it was possible to plug it.

Skytruth first reported the leak on its website on May 15. Federal officials mentioned it in the May 1 trajectory map for the Deepwater Horizon spill, stating that oil from the Ocean Saratoga spill might also be washing ashore in Louisiana.

The only other mention the Press-Register was able to find of the spill in federal documents occurred in a May 17 transcript of a U.S. Coast Guard media conference. In that transcript, Admiral Mary Landry said that she was unaware there was another drilling rig leaking oil in the Gulf.

much more...http://www.antemedius.com/content/second-oil-well-now-leaking-gulf-while-oil-leaks-through-seabed-around-bps-well

[ensho]

1. kick

nt

[xchrom]

2. The. Gulf is dead - long live the Gulf. Nt

[WeDidIt]

3. Not buying it.

A blog post referring to another blog post is hardly conclusive evidence.

[dgibby]

6. Here:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/ocean-saratoga-another-oi_n_604812.html

[WeDidIt]

10. So The Huffington Post Blog references the Alabama Press Register Blog

which is the blog the OP's blog referenced.

Still not buying it.

[dipsydoodle]

7. Why not ? was reported here on DU 10th June

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=389&topic_id=8520974

[WeDidIt]

11. Reported through a blog post

that again references the blog post the OP's cited blog referenced.

Still no reporting, just blog posts.

[dipsydoodle]

16. Would be happier to believe Bloomberg or CBS ?

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-06-08/diamond-offshore-declines-on-report-rig-is-leaking-oil-into-gulf-of-mexico.html

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/08/national/main6561020.shtml

[WeDidIt]

17. And both cite the original blog post

and if you finsih playing follow the bouncing blog posts you come to find out in an AP article the well is in the shut down process and has been conducting federally approved work to clean up some issues left over from Hurricane Ivan resulting in sheening and has not been leaking.

:eyes:

[dipsydoodle]

18. Whatever

If there was no truth in it then Diamond would've sued whoever started it for loss of share values.

[WeDidIt]

20. Yeah, because wasting lawyer time suing a blogger

will result in helping their bottom line.

[MyNameGoesHere]

8. My finger clicky is working

http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2010/06/08/national/main6561020.shtml


So now do you buy it?

[WeDidIt]

12. And CBS news still references the blog post referenced by the OP's cited blog post

The original citation on everything cited all goes back to the same blog post, including this CBS story.

[MyNameGoesHere]

43. Second oil leak in Gulf The government confirms another spill. Shares of Diamond Offshore fall on re

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Dispatch/market-dispatches.aspx?post=1767288&_blg=1

http://blog.skytruth.org/2010_05_01_archive.html


http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread581105/pg1

Hey but if you're waiting for the oil industry to confirm it then i got a oil rig in the gulf to sell to you, I just hope you are good at deep sea salvage as it is currently located about 5000 feet down.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

13. Aren't you the savvy reader.

:eyes:

[WeDidIt]

15. Yes, I am

Read my post below about playing follow the blog posts.

[Lone_Star_Dem]

25. It's true. It's been leaking since 2004

The only thing in question is the amount of oil it's leaked.

Sept. 2004 report to the National Incident Command Center re: oil coming from site
http://www.nrc.uscg.mil/reports/rwservlet?standard_web+inc_seq=735409

Photographer J Henry Fair says the new photos show an oil plume originating from the Ocean Saratoga rig, which is operated by Diamond Offshore. A work ship in the foreground appeared to be applying dispersants to the oil. A larger rig in the background may be discharging another leak.

This leak was reported last night by Alabama local news. NOAA also mentioned this leak in a April 30 oil slick map .

Diamond Offshore spokesman Gary Krenek tells us his company was hired by Taylor Energy to "plug and abandon" the existing well. He declined to comment on the reported leak.

The rig was damaged by Hurricane Ivan in 2004, according to Times Picayune. However, Diamond Offshore tells us, however, it was not hired to close the well until 2009.

Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/confirmed-there-is-a-second-leaking-rig-near-the-deepwater-2010-6#ixzz0rmmLvjSf

[Jackpine Radical]

4. Oh, shit.

I must say that the second thought that springs to mind (right after the "Oh, shit!") is that the existence of the second leak is going to play hell with the ambitions of the Drill-At-Any-Costers, who have been saying Deepwater Horizon is a fluke and it can't happen again.

[tom_paine]

9. Corporate M$M/RW Lie Machine will take care of that - what's a dash more oil in a sea of it?

I'd like to be wrong, but that would be bucking a massive trend.

As per the dictates of marketing and PR, only a tiny fraction of people will ever know about this second leak - a statistically insignificant fraction.

Game over.

[rfranklin]

5. That should not discourage us from drilling more wells...

Drill, baby, drill!

[WeDidIt]

14. And after playing the game of "follow the blog posts"

Company says oil sheen from Ocean Saratoga comes from ongoing work
Published: Tuesday, June 08, 2010, 7:05 PM

NEW ORLEANS -- Photographs showing a sheen of oil in the Gulf of Mexico southwest of the big BP spill are evidence only of government-approved work long under way, not a second leak, an energy company said Tuesday.

Site owner Taylor Energy Co. LLC said in a written statement that a production platform about 70 miles southwest of the Deepwater Horizon disaster was collapsed during Hurricane Ivan in 2004 by an underwater mudslide.

Pictures taken by an aerial photographer over the weekend suggested that oil was leaking from the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga, owned by Diamond Offshore Inc., and that a nearby vessel with a hose overboard was applying dispersant.

The Press-Register reported Tuesday that the slick emanating from the Ocean Saratoga has been visible from space in multiple images gathered by Skytruth.org, which monitors environmental problems using satellites. Federal officials did not respond to questions about the size of the leak, how long it had been flowing or whether it was possible to plug it.

<snip>

And there you have it when you start citing blogs that cite blogs, you end up in blog hell.

[SidDithers]

19. Facts are good...

blog supposition, not so much.

Thanks for providing facts.

Sid

[WeDidIt]

22. YEsterday I read where there was oil in the keys

and the poster cited a blog post with pictures that had no oil whatsoever in them.

[tekisui]

34. They didn't provide facts.

They linked to an article where the oil company denies a leak.

Here is a fact: The US has confirmed there is a second leak.
http://www.cnbc.com/id/37578701

[tekisui]

21. Not a second leak, an energy company said.

We know energy companies are always forthright and honest.

[WeDidIt]

23. "Federal authorities have approved the cleanup project, which is under about 500 feet of water"

:eyes:

[tekisui]

24. That doesn't prove there isn't a still ongoing second leak.

They are using three domes and spraying dispersant. I am not ready to buy the 'energy company's' story just yet.

[WeDidIt]

26. yes, DEMAND THEY PROVE A NEGATIVE!!!!!

:eyes:

[tekisui]

27. While you attempt to deny any possibility.

Why are you so committed to running cover for this?

[WeDidIt]

28. I don't deny any possibility

I deny fucked up blog posts with an agenda until they can provide some fucking support for their allegations.

[tekisui]

29. Here: US Confirms Second Gulf Spill

The U.S. Department of Interior confirmed Tuesday that oil has been leaking from a non-BP well into the Gulf of Mexico, but put the size of the leak at less than a barrel a day.

"Small amounts of oil—an average of less than one-third of a barrel per day—have been leaking" from wells operated by privately held oil exploration company Taylor Energy, the Interior Department said late Tuesday.

Taylor confirmed the leak in a statement after markets closed, but called it "minimal" and said the resulting oil sheen never made landfall.

The company also refuted earlier reports that the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga, owned by Diamond Offshore and operated by Taylor, was the source of the leak.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/37578701

[WeDidIt]

30. ""Small amounts of oil—an average of less than one-third of a barrel per day"

:eyes:

More than that seeps up from the Gulf floor per day.

[tekisui]

31. Well, you finally admit there is a leak. Good that we finally got you

a source you can accept.

Now we can go through the months long song and dance about the amount being leaked. We know that we have been routinely lied to on the rate of the BP leak. So, all I know is this baby-leak can be see from space, they are using three containment domes and spraying dispersant.

Roll your eyes all you want. There is a second leak, after you spent a dozen replies trying to deny and defect it.

[WeDidIt]

37. Finally someody provided evidence there was a leak

Certainly not the OP, and certainly not any post people gave a link in until yours.

And here we find out, it's miniscule. So small, in fact, that it never made any news since 2004 until the Deepwater Horizon event and it's used in a blog post to push an agenda of ZOMG !!!!! TEH WORLDZ IS ENDZQ!!!!!!!!

[tekisui]

39. We know oil companies lie.

This was further proof. They denied a leak, there was a leak. We are told it is small. It may be, but we have no reason to trust that estimate. We have seen leak estimates grow exponentially.

It isn't the end of the world, but it should be added to the arguments against offshore drilling.

[SidDithers]

33. At that rate, it takes more than 20 years to equal what Deepwater is leaking...

in an hour.

Sid

[WeDidIt]

35. And, they are still being fined because leaking any oil results in a fine

It's only about $300/day, but they would still be fined.

[tekisui]

36. If that is an honest estimate.

I wouldn't think that volume would require three containment domes and dispersant, yet still be seen from space.

[SidDithers]

40. The containment domes are preventing oil from escaping into the environment...

10-15 gallons per day is what's escaping past the containment domes.

Where do you see they're using dispersents? The CBS article above said:

Pictures taken by an aerial photographer over the weekend and posted on the Internet suggested that oil was leaking from the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga, owned by Diamond Offshore Inc., and that a nearby vessel with a hose overboard was applying dispersant.

But Taylor said the work boat was conducting scheduled drainage of the subsea containment system. The site has three containment domes below the surface, the company said.

Lastly, sheen is easily seen, and is extremely, extremely thin. A very little oil creates a huge slick, which give the impression that the release is much bigger than it actually is.

http://response.restoration.noaa.gov/book_shelf/662_OilatSea.pdf

Rainbow sheen is on the order of 0.0003 mm thick.

Sid

[tekisui]

41. It's all good then.

I don't trust anything coming from Taylor. They already lied about there being a leak. They may not be using dispersants, which would be a good thing.

Can you find any from space pictures of oil sheens from a naturally seeping oil?

[SidDithers]

42. No, it's not all good...

in fact, it's pretty shitty.

What it isn't, though, is new. Oil platforms leak oil. There's no getting around that. They leak when they drill, they leak when they pump, they leak when shut down, and they leak when they get slammed by an underground mudslide. Oil is a dirty, messy business. Yet we continue to top up our tanks - out of sight, out of mind.

This is not a "Second Oil Well Now Leaking Into Gulf". It's been leaking off and on since Hurricane Ivan. That doesn't make the situation any better.

But, the blog in the OP was, intentionally or unintentionally, conflating this leak with the Deepwater Horizon, when they're different by orders of magnitude.

Sid

[Radical Activist]

38. Your link confirms that the OP was full of errors.

The request for a better source was well justified.
From your link...

"Unidentified aircraft took photos this weekend that incorrectly reported an oil leak coming from the drilling rig Ocean Saratoga," Taylor said in a statement. "At the time of these photos, Taylor Energy was actually conducting marine operations on site with a 180 foot dynamically positioned workboat for a regularly scheduled subsea containment system drainage.

"The tanks mistakenly characterized as containing dispersants on the boat’s deck, were actually tanks to store and transport the collected oil as it was pumped from the underwater storage system," the company added.

[tekisui]

32. Recommend.