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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:00 PM
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Kos diary: The REAL McCrystal Story
So... Has anyone actually read the Rolling Stone story, end-to-end? The real story here is not about whether or not a subordinate said on the record that Obama seemed unprepared for one freakin' meeting, or that an aide to that subordinate childishly and humorlessly rephrased Biden's surname as "Bite Me."

The real story here is so very much bigger than whether or not Asshat McChrystal is going to be fired for criticizing the President. I have found at least eight -- EIGHT! -- examples of more important stories, below the fold.

FedUpDan's diary :: ::
The article reports that:

1. McChrystal echoed Bush's "mission accomplished" PR stunt and claimed a few days later, on the record, that military operations in Iraq were over.

2. McChrystal either condoned or failed to stop detainee abuse and torture at Camp Nama in Iraq when he was charged with its oversight.

3. McChrystal was instrumental in the Pat Tillman cover-up. Shortly after Tillman's death, he wrote a memo recommending against divulging the findings of internal investigations that showed Tillman's death was due to friendly fire. Why? Because, as Rolling Stone printed, those findings would cause "public embarrassment" for Bush. As RS also notes, "Nine days after Tillman's death, McChrystal was promoted to Major General."

4. McChrystal purposely cut the State Dept off at the knees in order to consolidate power for himself:

By far the most crucial – and strained – relationship is between McChrystal and Eikenberry, the U.S. ambassador. According to those close to the two men, Eikenberry – a retired three-star general who served in Afghanistan in 2002 and 2005 – can't stand that his former subordinate is now calling the shots. He's also furious that McChrystal, backed by NATO's allies, refused to put Eikenberry in the pivotal role of viceroy in Afghanistan, which would have made him the diplomatic equivalent of the general. The job instead went to British Ambassador Mark Sedwill – a move that effectively increased McChrystal's influence over diplomacy by shutting out a powerful rival. "In reality, that position needs to be filled by an American for it to have weight," says a U.S. official familiar with the negotiations.

5. McChrystal is a COIN man (explanation below). He is not interested in leaving Afghanistan anytime soon. And, as a COIN man, McChrystal, as well as other top Pentagon officials, are essentially insurgents at the highest levels within their own government. To quote the article:

COIN, as the theory is known, is the new gospel of the Pentagon brass, a doctrine that attempts to square the military's preference for high-tech violence with the demands of fighting protracted wars in failed states. COIN calls for sending huge numbers of ground troops to not only destroy the enemy, but to live among the civilian population and slowly rebuild, or build from scratch, another nation's government – a process that even its staunchest advocates admit requires years, if not decades, to achieve. The theory essentially rebrands the military, expanding its authority (and its funding) to encompass the diplomatic and political sides of warfare: Think the Green Berets as an armed Peace Corps. In 2006, after Gen. David Petraeus beta-tested the theory during his "surge" in Iraq, it quickly gained a hardcore following of think-tankers, journalists, military officers and civilian officials. Nicknamed "COINdinistas" for their cultish zeal, this influential cadre believed the doctrine would be the perfect solution for Afghanistan. All they needed was a general with enough charisma and political savvy to implement it.

6. As McChrystal leaned on Obama to ramp up the war, he did it with the same fearlessness he used to track down terrorists in Iraq: Figure out how your enemy operates, be faster and more ruthless than everybody else, then take the fuckers out. After arriving in Afghanistan last June, the general conducted his own policy review, ordered up by Defense Secretary Robert Gates. The now-infamous report was leaked to the press, and its conclusion was dire: If we didn't send another 40,000 troops – swelling the number of U.S. forces in Afghanistan by nearly half – we were in danger of "mission failure." The White House was furious. McChrystal, they felt, was trying to bully Obama, opening him up to charges of being weak on national security unless he did what the general wanted. It was Obama versus the Pentagon, and the Pentagon was determined to kick the president's ass.

7. General McChrystal was most definitely a "Bushie," and he is, for some stupid reason, strongly backed by Hillary Clinton.

8. The war in Afghanistan is a pointless money pit with no end in sight and no discernible standard of victory, and both the soldiers on the ground and even McChrystal himself do not deny the likelihood of this reality.

9. The war in Afghanistan is therefore a huge political-albatross-in-the-making for Obama here at home.

-snip

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2010/6/22/878410/-The-REAL-McChrystal-story

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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:04 PM
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1. Afghanistan rules the world!
It has already fucked up one so called superpower and it looks like it is about to cripple another one.
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The Old Creak Donating Member (164 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:36 PM
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10. Pipeline
its all about the pipeline
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:39 AM
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18. And the minerals.
Don't forget the minerals, to say nothing of the poppy fields.
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:43 AM
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19. that Karzai handed off to the Japanese:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37803781/ns/world_news-south_and_central_asia/


Learn from the Soviet mistake & get the hell out of there!
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:06 PM
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2. Not to mention:
"The general's staff is a handpicked collection of killers, spies, geniuses, patriots, political operators and outright maniacs. There's a former head of British Special Forces, two Navy Seals, an Afghan Special Forces commando, a lawyer, two fighter pilots and at least two dozen combat veterans and counterinsurgency experts. They jokingly refer to themselves as Team America, taking the name from the South Park-esque sendup of military cluelessness, and they pride themselves on their can-do attitude and their disdain for authority.


http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/17390/119236


Did the general train at West Point, or did he stay up late taking notes while watching the Dirty Dozen and the A-Team?
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:36 PM
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16. Team America: World Police
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UTUSN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:08 PM
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Yip, he is the Peter Principle incarnate. n/t
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housewolf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:08 PM
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3. Thanks for posting this
Interesting and enlightening
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Dawson Leery Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:09 PM
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4. Who is to say that McChrystal is not working
quite overtly to ruin Obama?
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:00 PM
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12. Or co-opt him
as seems more likely.
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branders seine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:10 PM
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5. This is probably against the 'not-so-new' rules, but . . .
don't you think Obama has pretty much anything that goes wrong in Afghanistan coming to him?

McChrystal is an a-one asswipe, but Obama has gone to great lengths to make himself the escalator/decider dude in Afghanistan. Bad decisions and bad plicies come home to roost, and Obama really has no one else to blame for Afghanistan.
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:11 PM
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6. You'd think we'd learn from what happened to the Russians
But no, we keep hitting our heads against the same wall they did. Like the Rolling Stone article said, the only invader who had any luck with Afghanistan was Ghengis Khan.

Afghanistan helped bring down the Soviet Union. A similar fate awaits the U.S. I fear.
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DURHAM D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:13 PM
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7. Frankly I think the big story is McCrystal's mental condition.
What he put on the record with that reporter suggests that he is unstable.

He needs to be removed from command if for no other reason than his gross error in judgment leads to lack of trust in his leadership abilities. I bet we will be hearing many more stories in the coming weeks/years about things this general has done. He ain't right.

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live love laugh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 02:09 PM
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23. "What he put on the record with that reporter suggests that he is unstable." I agree and...

“A nation can survive its fools and even the ambitious, but it cannot survive treason from within.” ~ Cicero
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:20 PM
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8. No wonder the WH is focusing on the stupid comments of Stanley.
Many of these points are very bad stories for the WH.
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:34 PM
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9. Especially bad because they were all known
before this predictable disaster. As with the situation regarding Offshore Drilling, the question arises again, 'who is advising President Obama'?
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mod mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 06:37 PM
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11. "advising" or setting him up?
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amborin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:02 PM
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13. or choosing as advisors?
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sabrina 1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:43 PM
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17. It is possible that the U.S. president no longer has any power.
And if he tries to exercise any he seems to get slapped down by people like McCrystal. Would a General be stupid enough to do this if he didn't feel he had the right to do so? That he would have backing? Not to mention some of the other things he's done? Covering up the truth about the death of a U.S. soldier, one who happened to be famous, in order to use it to help get a president who apparently didn't buck the system, elected?

I was going to say that that was taking quite a risk with his own career, but actually it wasn't. Nothing happened to him, in fact as we see, he was elevated by the next president. Something isn't right about any of this.
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dgibby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 08:47 AM
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20. The problem with Gen Ginormous McEgo:
His daddy was a Gen, he was a legacy appt. to West Point, he's been getting away with bad behavior his entire life. He survived all of the things listed in the OP, so feels he can do or say anything with impunity, and has no respect for those who let him do it. And last, but not least, he believes his and the Pentagon's hype about him, that he's indispensable to the war, which makes him TBTF(too big to fail).

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noise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:20 PM
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14. Maybe he is making these bad decisions on his own n/t
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grantcart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-22-10 07:23 PM
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15. As is pointed out here the greatest damage is the remarks he made about Eikenberry
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:37 PM
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21. k&r
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thewiseguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-23-10 12:39 PM
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22. 10- Obama installed McChrystal to lead the war efforts in Afghanistan
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