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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:00 PM Original message |
Military people here: would you wear combat gear to meet with the President |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
1. I'm not in any way military but I think military personnel going to the WH |
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Ganja Ninja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #1 |
14. Yup He should have been in dress uniform. |
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AsahinaKimi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #14 |
77. Maybe he did it for a reason. |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:27 PM Response to Reply #1 |
35. Would you wear only briefs and a guitar. |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #35 |
97. Dress greens, flip flops and a light coat of oil |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
2. If I'm actually actively serving in combat, absolutely |
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rfranklin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. It's like showing up in a pair of overalls if you're a mechanic or a farmer... |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
9. this is his uniform-of-the-day - so completely appropriate |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. Absolutely! |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #5 |
24. I guess as former military, I see it as the opposite |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
47. I guess that's what got my hackles up - I saw the message not as |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. I would think anyone, military or otherwise... |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #60 |
67. When you're a combat troop and it's the uniform of the day, it's appropriate |
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Winterblues (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #67 |
73. I was a lowly enlisted man but we were not allowed to wear fatigues off base. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:44 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. I'm pretty sure you can these days |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:21 PM Response to Reply #73 |
81. We also couldn't wear flight suits off base. However, |
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Better Believe It (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. Would you show up as a General in a combat uniform or dress uniform at the White House? |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 12:12 PM Response to Reply #86 |
99. That depends.... |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:04 PM Response to Original message |
3. Absolutely! n/t |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:05 PM Response to Original message |
4. Gosh, I wouldn't consider that combat gear. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:10 PM Response to Reply #4 |
16. A plant store isn't on a par with the White House and meeting with your Commander in Chief. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #16 |
31. It just looks normal to me. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #31 |
37. In those photos, absolutely. I was just thinking about the White House |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. McChrystal is the second coming of Ollie North. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:07 PM Response to Original message |
7. yes - it is appropriate and allowed |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
8. I don't know about military protocol, but it seems that dress is for formal |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
23. I once had a neighbor (in Fairfax County, VA) who was a Navy captain and worked |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #23 |
41. Although one of my childhood homes was in an AFB town in Southern |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
10. Military members wear the "Uniform of the Day", |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:15 PM Response to Reply #10 |
22. So, you're saying, when he meets with other important people... |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
63. He is required to wear the Uniform of the Day, |
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Travis Coates (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 09:05 AM Response to Reply #22 |
98. No, he's saying that in the military you wear what you are told to wear NT |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. Not in the military any more |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
12. It's not combat gear - it's his standard uniform. It isn't disrespectful. |
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av8rdave (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #12 |
28. Exactly....not to mention that a combat soldier in combat gear deserves respect as well! |
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zipplewrath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. I really thought they had rules on this stuff |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
15. Unless things have changed, as long as the uniform is |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #15 |
36. I was thrown by the boots and camo - but white shirt and tie |
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jezebel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
17. If memory serves me right, this was not the Oval Office. It was Air Force one. nt |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:11 PM Response to Reply #17 |
19. IF that's the case, his dress is completely appropriate n/t |
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Barack_America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Your memory serves right. |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #17 |
27. Outstanding catch "Army Gen. Stanley McChrystal met with Obama for about 25 minutes aboard Air Force |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #17 |
39. My mistake - i saw the fancy yellow rug and thought it was the Oval Office. |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
18. If I were meeting with the president in the White House, I'd wear a Class A uniform |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:13 PM Response to Original message |
20. Such a bullshit move... |
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leftofcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
40. The meeting was at the White House? I thought it was on AF 1 |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:10 PM Response to Reply #40 |
61. In the Oval Office... |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. Google Oval Office carpet and see what's missing |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:15 PM Response to Original message |
21. His uniform is appropriate. |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:17 PM Response to Original message |
29. Totally appropriate. The man is a combat soldier not a REMF n/t |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:24 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Be nice now, sometimes REMFs get to be commanders or even commanders in chief. n/t |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:26 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. Touche. n/t |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:31 PM Response to Reply #29 |
43. On the other hand, I don't think Copenhagen is a center of combat operations! |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. What are the circumstances behind the meeting? Was McChrystal summoned unexpectedly to meet Obama |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:51 PM Response to Reply #48 |
56. Wasn't he summoned after some remarks he made? |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #56 |
57. Don't know but the article I cited in this thread said McChrystal was returning from a meeting with |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:36 PM Response to Reply #57 |
64. Yes. McChrystal spoke out of turn, was summoned for "smackdown" |
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damntexdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Would you wear only bikini briefs and a guitar. |
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asdjrocky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:26 PM Response to Original message |
34. I thought class A was required for visiting the White House. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:28 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. I think it's Air Force One |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:32 PM Original message |
What do the AF officers who fly AF One wear? |
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Llewlladdwr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. I'm pretty sure they wear standard issue flight suits. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:40 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Since they're on the job, that would make sense. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Just saw one I googled. They wear a collared shirt with a tie and over it |
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jody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:32 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. It's Air Force One, picture below in Copenhagen |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
42. Not combat gear, not the Oval Office. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:33 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. I didn't know either- I was looking at the camo gera and combat boots as opposed to |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #45 |
46. Turns out he does get dressed up for White house visits: |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:37 PM Response to Original message |
49. This is a combat uniform .... |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:39 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. I stand corrected. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. Why in Europe? I get it about Afghanistan but just wondering about Europe. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #54 |
55. Uniform of the day is set by the command. |
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CTyankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 02:53 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Thanks...what you learn on DU! |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:15 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Yes |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:47 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. Was it awhile ago that you were in? |
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Gaedel (802 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:05 PM Response to Reply #65 |
68. 1961 |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 03:01 PM Response to Reply #54 |
59. Even in bases across the US |
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Lagomorph (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
69. It depends.... |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
70. Not in the military myself, but it seems fine to me. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:37 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. That sums up my thoughts pretty well. |
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Forkboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:38 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Superb point! |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:40 PM Response to Reply #71 |
74. I couldn't agree more |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 05:47 PM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Part of the function of a uniform is to convey a message about the |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. But it's not anywhere near as appalling |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:29 PM Response to Reply #80 |
84. i see what you're saying. I think the disrespect is a symptom |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #84 |
85. What disrespect? Several posters here mention that's simply the day's required uniform |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:48 PM Response to Reply #85 |
88. I was referring to the disrespect described in the Rolling Stone article. |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #88 |
89. Whoops; fair enough. |
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lunatica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:43 PM Response to Original message |
75. I think dress uniforms are strickly for formal occasions aren't they? |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #75 |
91. No. They are actually worn every day or every week by many military personnel. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 04:55 PM Response to Original message |
78. After 9-11 a General Order was promulgated designating the |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
82. I have no issue |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:27 PM Response to Original message |
83. Of all the misinterpreted nonissues to rage about.. (nt) |
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oldlib (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
87. Dress Uniform! |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #87 |
92. I'm not sure what the rules are |
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oldlib (549 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. Dress Uniforms. |
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JonLP24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 08:52 AM Response to Reply #95 |
96. We were allowed to do that as well |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
90. If he had been respectful to the President and staff, I could overlook this-- |
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trof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 07:03 PM Response to Original message |
93. Nossir! I'd wear Class A uniform. |
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SwampG8r (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jun-22-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
94. if i am a military lifer |
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MyNameGoesHere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Jun-23-10 12:26 PM Response to Original message |
100. You people throwing out the Uniform of the Day tripe |
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