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babsbunny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:04 PM
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Rand Paul to long-term jobless: Just go back to work
Rand Paul to long-term jobless: Just go back to work

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Republican U.S. Senate candidate Rand Paul on Friday urged Americans who have been unemployed for many months to consider returning to the workforce in less desirable jobs rather than continue relying on government unemployment assistance.

"In Europe, they give about a year of unemployment. We're up to two years now in America," Paul said on Sue Wylie’s WVLK-AM 590 radio program.

"As bad as it sounds, ultimately we do have to sometimes accept a wage that's less than we had at our previous job in order to get back to work and allow the economy to get started again," Paul said. "Nobody likes that, but it may be one of the tough love things that has to happen."



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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:07 PM
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1. Girlfriend is 59. Worked all her life until losing her job in January. Tough it out, Rand?
Who the hell is going to hire anybody at 59? Oh yeah, it happens in dreams. Just not in the real world. You know, where Rand Paul doesn't reside.
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PJPhreak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:08 PM
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3. I'm 51
same problem here
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:12 PM
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5. Good luck. I actually found one at 52, after out for two years.
And still in it, and praying to get to 66 in it. I worked from the time I was out of college in 1975 without a break until 2001, when I lost my job and was out for over two years, until I miraculously landed one in 2004 - thanks to a friend who knew a friend. That's the only way you get one past 50. Network. All the best.
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 05:51 PM
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22. he's a fucking pig. i hope he keeps talking. if i ever saw his old
man, I would punch his inbred face.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 03:23 PM
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14. AND I 've been a stay-at-home-mom
full-time for the past 8.5 years. I worked part-time for about 8 years prior to that. I did work full-time for TWENTY YEARS prior to that, working my way up the ladder.

I'm "overqualified" for the entry-level jobs. My experience as an HR manager is not only out-of-date, the experience is from another state! I'm willing to start from the bottom, but people see that I was an HR Manager and Office Manager at one time and they shy away. (I'm seriously considering lying about my job titles! Downplaying them, not inflating them.)

My skills are still excellent. My university degree (4.0) was from 2002 - not 1970-something. I stayed active via volunteer "work". On top of it all, I moved to a different state four years ago. Most of my "references" are dead, retired, married or divorced (impossible to find either way), the companies closed, bought out, merged, or no one who works there now was there when I was... oh - and the records from "that far back" have been purged.

hell, I'm reduced to applying for craigslist ads! And even though I know "energetic" is shorthand for YOUNG, I apply for those jobs anyway.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:06 PM
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25. Yep. that's what people don't understand..it's hard to get a "survival" job when older or more (ro)
qualified.

I'm also a SAHM and I have resigned myself to the fact that I will not be able to re-enter the workforce. I'm freelancing right now and hope to grow my business when the kids are both in school full-time.
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noiretextatique Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 03:46 PM
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16. me too
Edited on Sat Jun-19-10 03:48 PM by noiretextatique
i even died my hair, but my resume still shows that i graduated in the early eighties :shrug: i've had two responses in six months. the most promising of the two was a part-time job that would pay me less than unemployment. rand can go f himself.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-21-10 11:17 AM
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34. Some small suggestions that may help:
1. Improve your spelling skills. You didn't "die" your hair, you "dyed" it. I hope the spelling on your resume isn't like that. But before you get mad at me...

2. You don't HAVE to list your graduation year on your resume. Get rid of it, and if possible knock your oldest job off it as well (whichever one you had right out of school, assuming it's fairly irrelevant to what you do now in terms of showing your experience--if you can). It will take a few years off your age, or at least seem to.

Now that being said...this is no guarantee any of this will work. I also know that some electronic application forms force you to enter year of graduation.

Finally, I am in the same boat myself, have been unemployed longer than you have with just as little luck, and Rand Paul has absolutely no clue. He can stick it.
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kevinbgoode Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:16 PM
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7. Thank you!
I'm a few years younger, and I'm facing that same situation. Worse, this is after I retrained, earned another degree and started another career!

You can always tell who the privileged and connected are by their astounding ignorance toward people who never had the advantages they were HANDED to them. I encountered one conservative a few days ago who started ranting about everyone wanting "hand-outs" and "entitlements". . .of course, he got his executive position through family connections. Republicans love "handouts" when they come from family members, established networks that only they can join, their local country club. They view those as legit "entitlements" because nepotism is a traditional value - just ask royalty.

It's one of those reasons why I refer to con-servatives as con-artists. When they "create wealth" it isn't usually by producing goods and services any longer - it's by creating non-negotiable "fees" and "duties" whenever a big corporation wants to increase profit. That why I laugh hysterically when I watch the teabaggers whine about taxes. . .and never say a word about the duties we are forced to pay for every big business just for the privilege to patronize them. THAT is the conservative mindset - that the "small" people are just indentured servants.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:04 PM
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24. :( So sorry to hear that.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:12 PM
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28. I have known people who have been hired in their 60s
or 50s. One person several times (keeps losing jobs doing dumb things, not a matter of age there).

Maybe things are better in this state, I don't know.
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Matariki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:08 PM
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2. Let them EAT Rand Paul
and every other wealthy asshat whose solution to well paying jobs being 'outsourced' is to have the middle class all working as baggers at Walmart.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:10 PM
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4. Let them bake cake
And after they do, they can eat it.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:14 PM
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6. ...says the rich man.
How's about we make the Senate work for minimum wage?
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CanonRay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:25 PM
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8. Typical selfish libertarian
prick. It's all about making them feel good about their greed.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:16 PM
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18. I really
dislike libertarians...not only are they selfish, but they want to do whatever they want and everyone else isn't allowed to because that would infringe on their rights.

I think Repugnants are beyond selfish...they're simply greedy.
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:28 PM
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9. Anybody can go back to work
Now whether or not there is an employer who wishes to pay you to work for him is another matter completely.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:31 PM
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10. And yet he makes a big chunk of his money from Medicare..
Hoocoodanode? That Rand Paul would be a huge hypocrite about income?
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 02:33 PM
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11. This is why I want all those elitist pricks to be POOR
I know poverty and I'm not afraid of it, although I'd hoped to avoid it for what little time I have left. I'm perfectly willing to slip back into it if it will extend beyond my own class and affect all the entitled conservative and libertarian pricks who are convinced people are poor because they are lazy.

I just want to see their smugness turn to horror. I just want them to experience what I've experienced.

Some of them are too stupid to learn from it, of course. However, the majority might be reachable.
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Gidney N Cloyd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 03:10 PM
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12. And if you need a new degree just create your own board and certify yourself.
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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 03:22 PM
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13. Even THAt argument is worthless, because the lesser paying jobs are scarce as well
My DH was working temp jobs, and ran into a number of ex-exec types doing the same thing, for the same pay.

Someone needs to slap this spawn of Ron. :grr:
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Taitertots Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 03:34 PM
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15. We should let him have all the rope he needs to hang himself
This is the "Let them eat cake" of our generation. We all know what happened to the last person stupid enough to say that from their ivory tower.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:11 PM
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17. I hope he'll
be looking for a job real soon. And since now everyone knows he is NOT a certified opthamologist, he won't have any patients...then he can be a janitor!
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:19 PM
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19. Just go back to your old job

Don't shower, don't shave, and you can throw the last part at your old boss.

Of course, this is a really bad idea, brought up in jest, just as Paul is a jest.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:20 PM
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20. "Just pull yourselves up by your bootstraps, you dirty hippie!!!!"
Fucking idiot
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Martin Eden Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 04:27 PM
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21. I think he meant to say "tough SHIT"
Here's what I'd REALLY like to hear Rand Paul say:

"Want fries with that?"
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:04 PM
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23. Well, sorry Rand but many employers say they won't hire the unemployed and ro
there's not too many jobs to be had. It's also very hard to get survival jobs, especially when older (when it's hard to get a job at all). As well, not everyone can own their own business or freelance.
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:11 PM
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27. You can be a freelance anything!
Just make up your own professional organization, you can run it out of your garage. I suggest you set up a new American Association of Brain Surgeons
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miscsoc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:10 PM
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26. "In Europe, they give about a year of unemployment"
Where do they do this? I wasn't aware of it. Netherlands?
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:14 PM
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29. Libertarians refuse to acknowledge the idea of the job market
containing fewer jobs than job seekers. They just don't accept that concept. It does not fit in with their ideas so they ignore that possibility.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:16 PM
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30. Fuck Rand Paul, he is a loser that doesn't understand simple
economics and is a charlatan doctor to boot! He can fuck off and rot in hell, today for all I care. Don't wait Rand, just jump into that cardboard box on the street corner and live the fucking life you idiot! He would probably just burn the homeless to death in a media blackout. I can see him doing it.
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devilgrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 06:17 PM
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31. Typical attitude of someone that never had to worry about a thing - EVER!
eom
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Ramulux Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 07:30 PM
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32. This is exactly the attitude thats fucked our country up
This idea that all people who are unemployed are that way by choice is such a horrible misconception. The worst thing is that this belief is crucial to the conservative mindset and as long as people believe that all government programs are evil, terrible, and unnecessary they will believe that a social safety net is useless and that we should all be on our own.

I love Rand Paul because he doesn't dress up the horrible underlying beliefs of the modern conservative in lies and rhetoric the way all other republicans do. He knows that conservatism is a heartless and primitive ideology and he doesn't bother trying to make it sound good.
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KonaKane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-19-10 07:44 PM
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33. Wait, suddenly Libertarian Man WANTS us to be like Europe?
I cannot keep up with the zany hair-pin turns the brains of these lunatics make.
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