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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 04:40 PM
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Administration CONFIRMS Arizona LAW Challenge, Jan Brewer's Head To EXPLODE
:rofl::woohoo::rofl:



Hillary Clinton was apparently correct when she said the Obama Justice Department will challenge the Arizona immigration law, according to CBS news. That will not make Jan Brewer very happy!


The Arizona governor and signer-of-anything-racist was already outraged that at then-unconfirmed plans to challenge her beloved immigration law. The fact that said plans were announced by Secretary of State Hillary Clinton in Ecuador, though, is what really got Brewer's goat:


“To learn of this lawsuit through an Ecuadorean interview with the secretary of state is just outrageous.”


“If our own government intends to sue our state to prevent illegal immigration enforcement, the least it can do is inform us before it informs the citizens of another nation,” Brewer added.


Those damned Ecuadorians do not deserve to know what we do up here! It's a secret!


Now, usually, the Secretary of State does not announce major decisions by the Justice Department to local TV stations in Quito, Ecuador. But apparently that is exactly what Hillary Clinton did:


CLINTON: Well, Andrea, first, let me say how pleased I am that I have this chance to talk to you about these and other important issues. President Obama has spoken out against the law because he thinks that the federal government should be determining immigration policy. And the Justice Department, under his direction, will be bringing a lawsuit against the act.


This was news to everyone. Including, maybe the Justice Department, who yesterday announced that they're still "reviewing" the law, but are not yet pursuing a suit. Some people thought Clinton was just telling a reporter what she wanted to hear.


Mark Krikorian, The Corner's expert in all things Latino, just wrote that Clinton was incorrect and there will not be a suit.



:rofl: Time for Mark to break out the corrections boilerplate, because "a senior administration official tells CBS News that the federal government will indeed formally challenge the law when Justice Department lawyers are finished building the case."


:rofl: I can't wait to hear what John McCain will have to say about it. (Demand an immediate airstrike on Ecuador?)





<http://www.salon.com/news/politics/war_room/2010/06/18/clinton_arizona_brewer_lawsuit/index.html>



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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 04:48 PM
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1. I can't wait to hear what John McCain will have to say about it.
McCain: (to the tune of Barbara Ann by The Beach Boys) "Bomb, bomb, bomb, bomb Ec-ua-dor..."

McCain is such an idiot. :eyes:
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Segami Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 07:28 PM
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9. I'm sure that mental midget will have a smart-ass come-back response to the law suit..
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harkadog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 05:12 PM
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2. Who is the "senior adminstration official"?
Since Clinton has stated there will be a suit why are they afraid to be identified? The major problem with a suit is that the language of the AZ law was copied from federal law. The Supreme Court has said in number of cases states can pass laws which are equal to or go beyond federal law in enforcement (State OSHA regulations are just one example which have been held to be constitutional). If the federal government says the language can lead to profiling abuse then they would have to explain why the federal language does not lead to that same abuse ( a legally impossible task).
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POAS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:27 PM
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11. I wouldn't assume that
those that claim the law mirrors the federal statutes are being truthful or actually know what they are talking about.

Yes, the states may make laws that even go beyond federal law but they still must pass Constitutional muster.I would expect that the Justice lawyers have been hard at work trying to figure out where or if the AZ statute may not be constitutional. Whether or not they can convince a rather conservative court is another matter and I would not be surprised (and maybe even pleasantly surprised) if the court struck down a few federal statutes in the process.
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alstephenson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 05:14 PM
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3. RW heads will be exploding all over Arizona.
Excellent.
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Dr Morbius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 05:17 PM
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4. One wonders if the threat of a suit by the department of justice will cause
the state of Arizona to revisit the statute as written. This may be a chess move, again, from the White House. Maybe.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 05:27 PM
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6. They already rewrote it
A week after the Governor signed the original bill (SB 1070), they passed an amendments bill (HB 2162) in an effort to neutralize major objections.

Five other lawsuits already are pending, and Gov. Brewer plans to defend the AZ law against any and all challenges.
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Saturday Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 05:26 PM
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5. Sorry, Hillary was out of line to make this announcement.
Unprofessional to say the least.
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leftofcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:05 PM
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7. Around here Hillary would be out of line, unprofessional,
etc........no matter what she did/does even if she was/is right.
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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 09:13 PM
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10. I wondered why she would raise it in response to an interview question
State Department officials defended it, and explained Clinton's reasons for doing it, in their comments to the NYT:

Justice Dept. Will Fight Arizona on Immigration

By RANDAL C. ARCHIBOLD and MARK LANDLER
Published: June 18, 2010


<snip>
A State Department spokesman, Philip J. Crowley, said Mrs. Clinton’s comments, made during a visit to Ecuador’s capital, Quito, were meant to answer deep qualms about the law in Mexico and other Latin American countries. “It is important to recognize that this has resonated significantly beyond our borders,” Mr. Crowley said.
<snip>

On a four-day trip last week to Colombia, Ecuador and Peru, Mrs. Clinton was asked about the law at every stop. When she sat down with reporters from two local TV channels in Quito last week, it was the subject of the first question from both. One reporter suggested that the law might encourage violence against those suspected of being illegal immigrants.
<snip>

While the crossed wires left people at the Justice Department shaking their heads, Mrs. Clinton’s aides were unapologetic. The State Department had urged the Justice Department to announce the suit earlier this week, so Mrs. Clinton would not steal her colleagues’ thunder, one official said.

And, as Mr. Crowley, the spokesman, pointed out, “There is clearly an international aspect to this.”

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/19/us/politics/19arizona.html


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JBoy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-18-10 06:30 PM
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8. There's something deliciously ironic about announcing this in Ecuador.
I hope it was intentional.
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