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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:18 PM
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The "Escalation" meme is a red herring. Am I crazy or am I a Canary in a coal mine?
All of congress is a twitter, dems and repubs. "No escalation" they say which is in essence saying that it's ok to have 130,000 troops in Iraq, but don't send any more. They have moved the argument and the focus to the additional troops, thus avoiding the real issue which is to GET OUT. Please don't fall for this but demand that we pull the troops out now
Meanwhile, back at the ranch, Bushco is blaming everything bad in Iraq in Iran. CNN tonight said that Iran is responsible for the Karbala attack. Also, Iran is now responsible for the weapons in Iraq. Iran is the boogie man.

Mark my words, George W. Bush wants more war and more death. He wants Iran.

Don't fall for the bs. Escalation is irrelevant. Stop them from bombing Iran and bring all the troops home now. I am I the only one who sees this coming?
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PDJane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:23 PM
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1. No, you're not the only one.
Most of the world is waiting. It's like watching a train wreck........
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FormerDittoHead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:23 PM
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2. You're not wrong.
Remember, Iraq wasn't even on the Democratic 100 hour agenda...

It was Cindy Sheehan brought it back on the table at all...

The fact is that Bush has positioned this wonderfully (for himself, see below), and Pelosi doesn't want to upset the apple cart that she and other Democrats see forming as a clean sweep / grand slam / solid majorities with President in 2008....

What's Bush have to gain? HIS goal is to kick it down the field and wait it out until he's out, and then the right wing spin machine will blame whoever follows for having "lost" the war...

The "increase/don't increase" as you have observed, is a totally false argument. It's happening, and we're all stuck here watching it happen.
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:28 PM
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6. I was in DC. and It felt good. Did it help?
What actions do we need to take? What can we do? I call my reps and feel like I'm barking at the moon. But i also think we can resist. I cannot believe it is hopeless, but I don't know what effective action to take.

Ideas?
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:24 PM
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3. Good reading, kohodog. You are spot on. K&R
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Quakerfriend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:25 PM
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4. You are totally correct. We all seem to be waiting for Congress
to cut them off at the knees.

Finally, today we see some news of binding resolutions being offered by Obama and Feingold.
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scarletwoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:27 PM
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5. You are absolutely NOT crazy. The attack on Iran is coming soon. k & r (nt)
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kohodog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:40 PM
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7. Wimpy little George has emasculated congress and shredded the constitution.
It's time to take a stand and confront your representatives. George isn't so wimpy after all, at least with Cheney behind the curtain.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:42 PM
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8. You are not crazy. n/t
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TexasLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:52 PM
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9. Good post
Thanks for helping us keep our eye on the ball.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:52 PM
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10. Yes, yes. That's what he wants.
The poor delusional John Wayne wannabe thinks he commands the numeric forces we had in World War II. So, I've noticed, do a number of DUers.

All he's got over there is ALL WE HAVE. We are scraping the bottom of every damn barrel.

We don't have limitless expensive bombs to drop. OUR ARMY IS BROKE. WE ARE NOT A SUPERPOWER.

Enlistments are pathetic. Anyone joining the National Guard lately? And we are shelling out huge bucks for mercenaries.

Oh, AND WE HAVE NO ALLIES.

So, yeah. George wants a war with Iran. I want a trust fund of two million a year. So?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 08:55 PM
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11. Of course he does, it's the only time he feels alive.
Mark my words, George W. Bush wants more war and more death. He gets off on it, sick bastard that he is. :grr:
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:48 AM
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12. "I am I the only one who sees this coming?" . . .
trust me, the entire U.S. Congress sees this coming . . . the more relevant question is "Why aren't they working 24/7 to stop it?" . . .

an attack on Iran would be disastrous in so many ways . . . not the least of which is that it could easily escalate into World War III . . . why the Congress isn't doing everything in their power to stop it -- including impeachment, if necessary -- is unfathomable . . .
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 07:50 AM
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13. It's wag the dog. Why can't you all see it?
While Congress is fighting his escalation plans, everyone is too busy to pursue impeachment.
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maine_raptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:05 AM
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15. Bingo!!!! We have a winner!
Divide and Conquer is not just for territorial gain, it works in governmental operations as well.

Note all the competing Senate resolutions popping up. Some will be pro-Bush too. And each will have to be debated, either in committee or on the floor. That takes time. In the meanwhile, there Iran.

Running out the clock is the strategy here folks. Remember one of the reasons why Saint Ronnie was never impeached over Iran-Contra was that it was so late in his term that its was thought better to take a "knee down" and wait until the 1988 presidential election.

Whether Bush goes to war with Iran or not is not important to this administration; It's the calender stupid.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:07 PM
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16. The son of a bitch is willing to leave a blood trail from our innocent
soldiers to take us off his track. It's time Bush become a grown-up and accept full accountability for his mistakes.
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 08:03 AM
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14. Not the only one to see it
But the only ones who can stop it are Congress, and the only way they do that is by arresting the chimp and Cheney NOW.
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bigtree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 03:16 PM
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17. It's a way to highlight the occupation and to draw a line.
It doesn't take away from the efforts to end the occupation which many of our legislators are working hard to accomplish. It's just not credible to lump them all together under some cynical plot to continue the occupation. It's just not true for the majority of our Democrats. They want the occupation ended as much as we do. I refuse to dehumanize these hard working folks and pretend as if they just don't care as much as we do. It's a crock.

Opposition to the escalation is NOT irrelevant as part of the overall effort to end the occupation. That's what the effort is about. It's Bush who is intent on continuing the occupation and escalating it to include Iran. It makes no sense at all to project his militarism onto those Democrats who are working to oppose it by highlighting and opposing his escalation.



Bush's Muckraking Militarism Toward Iraq And Iran Is The Greatest Threat To Our Security
http://journals.democraticunderground.com/bigtree
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