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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:21 PM
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Dean Baker: "most economists have lost the ability to understand basic economic concepts"
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 02:24 PM by Better Believe It
Should We Be Surprised?
The Retail Sales Slump
By DEAN BAKER
June 16, 2010

The Commerce Department reported that retail sales in May were down by 1.2 percent from April. This surprised most economists who had expected a modest increase. The media were filled with accounts of economists trying to explain why consumers were still reluctant to open up their wallets and spend in a big way. It would have been much more interesting to hear accounts of why economists were surprised.

To put it as simply as possible (so even an economist can understand it), the housing bubble was driving the economy in the period prior to its collapse, beginning in 2007. It drove the economy in two ways. The run up in house prices led to a building boom. Residential construction, which is typically less than 4.0 percent of GDP, rose to more than 6.0 percent, creating more than $300 billion in additional annual demand. A bubble in non-residential real estate added perhaps another $150 billion to annual demand.

The bubble also drove the economy through the effect of housing wealth on consumption. Economists usually estimate that $1 of additional housing wealth increases annual consumption by between 5 to 7 cents. This implies that the $8 trillion of housing bubble wealth would lead increase consumption by $400 billion to $560 billion a year.

Yet, we have dozens of economists being cited in newspapers and broadcast news, all saying that they are surprised by weak consumption. If anything the surprise should be that consumption is still as strong as it is. The saving rate is still near 4.0 percent, far below its historic average. Why on earth would any economist expect it to go still lower?

The reason that consumers are not spending more money has nothing to do with attitudes. The reason that most consumers aren’t spending is the same reason that homeless people aren't spending much money: They don’t have any money.

Economists used to be able to understand basic economic concepts. Apparently, most have lost this ability. As a result we are likely to see many more surprised economists and much proposed in the way of very bad economic policy.

Read the full article at:

http://www.counterpunch.org/baker06162010.html

Guess I need to get a PHD in economics before I'll be able to understand that concept. So if people don't have any money to spend they don't spend it? mmmmmmmm Let me think about that for awhile! BBI

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notesdev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:25 PM
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1. Bingo!
"The reason that most consumers aren’t spending is the same reason that homeless people aren't spending much money: They don’t have any money."

Replace income with debt for decades, then run into the inevitable debt crisis as a result, what happens? Nobody has any money left.

Just like they planned it.
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Phoebe Loosinhouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:35 PM
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2. We're almost there - Idiocracy! nt
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lurky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:45 PM
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3. So true. Plus, he didn't even mention the 10% unemployment rate.
And that's the official number that doesn't count all the people who are underemployed or who have totally fallen off the edge. Does anybody really think the unemployed are out shopping?
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Skink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:47 PM
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4. I reached that point years ago.
My only consumer spending is for food and gas.
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:13 PM
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6. Same
I miss being able to spend on things beyond that.
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 02:54 PM
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5. I saw this coming when I was taking Econ 101
What I was being taught didn't resemble reality in the slightest. Consumers make rational purchasing decisions? I mean, seriously- WTF?

I almost failed that course because I was basing my assumptions about economics on the reality around me rather than the crystal balls economists use. I didn't learn anything useful other than "these people are a large part of what is wrong with the US economy".
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Speck Tater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 03:15 PM
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7. Modern economists base their predictions on wishful thinking. nt
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 04:34 PM
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8. i don't know if economist should have been surprised or not, but i do know this article is moronic
his basic premise is that retail sales should be expected to suck because of the big bursted bubble from 2007.

true enough, but the statistic the economists were surprised about was the percentage CHANGE in retail sales FROM APRIL 2010 TO MAY 2010. not whether or not retail sales suck, but whether they suck slightly more or slightly less than just one month before.

his argument doesn't say anything about how long retail sales should suck, whether we should continue to suck indefinitely, what it takes to improve things, etc. in his view, how long does it take to recover from a burst bubble?


in short, his whole argument is a classic pessimist's fallacy that "things suck" implies that "things must get worse".



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