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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:10 PM
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Republicans just don't get it.
Edited on Tue Jun-15-10 07:33 PM by SoCalDem
Remediation, recovery, restoration ALWAYS cost MORE than prevention, conservation, & stewardship.

In every single case of a massive f-up we have endured due largely to the republican administrations that brewed up the eventual nightmare scenario, we ended up spending a lot more trying to UN-do the mess they created.

Their standard response?..."Move on, go forward, don't look back, don't play the blame-game. it was bipartisan (thanks DINOS:(..)"

Usually their messes take the form of financial ruin and/or political chicanery , but often there is an environmental degradation that goes hand-in-hand.

We only have what we have.. We cannot "invent" new old-growth forests, or new pristine coastlines, or new mountaintops. We have what we have, and once it's gone, we are only left with the debris, and the horrendous expense of trying to pick up the pieces.

That we have ANY wildlife left, is a testament to their hardiness , since we are determined (as a nation) to make their lives as miserable and tenuous as possible.

There really IS more to life than money, but it's a pretty effective way of "keeping score", and republicans are world-class scorekeepers..

They tend to boil almost every issue down to the dollar & cents angle, and portray Democrats as "wasting" money if every penny spent does not somehow make its way into a donor's portfolio.

Money spent to help people live better, more fulfilling lives, with health & a decent lifestyle, has NO value to them. Money spent to allow wild creatures to just LIVE, is money wasted..in their eyes.

The funny thing is this. EVERYONE has a family member or friend who lives like a republican. These are the cousins, uncles, aunts, brothers, sisters, buddies who are always ready to tell others how to live their lives, but take little responsibility for their own lives. THEIR way of life is the default, and everyone who disagrees with them are just AT fault.

Taking from the earth is somehow their god-given right, even if it's a finite substance that's being taken, and the extraction/use of it can be dangerous and ill-advised, because NOW is all that matters to them.

Animals live in the now. People have supposedly evolved to appreciate the fact that there is a past we should learn from, a future to plan for, and there is also the now, but it should be of equal weight to the other two.

Perhaps republicanism is just a base instinctual (animalistic) way to live.

Like hoarders who simply must have every scrap of paper that ever came into their home, piled up in their living room, or every dog/cat they can put their hands on..not because they are needed, but because it's just what they do, and because if THEY have it, someone else does not.

I see these buttoned-down republicans on tv every day, spinning their way though any question asked of them. It boggles the mind to see how convoluted their answers are when the question is so cut an dried, and any "normal" person would have NO problem understanding. They see everything as right or left, when the issue is right and wrong.

I've always ascribed to the theory or "what if I am wrong..what's the worst that can happen"?

In an environmental sense, if the "treehuggers" get their way , what happens? cleaner air, cleaner water, more trees, more wildlife.

In a financial sense, if the liberals get their way maybe poor people have a more than they had before,
maybe some people have jobs, that didn't before..
maybe banks & investment companies make less money because they have to follow some rules.....
maybe mega-health services corporations make a little less, and maybe people have better health care they can afford.

Conservation of resources may not make as many people as rich as they want to be, but it might also leave something on the table for the people yet to come.

Republicans are dangerous, and should always be shown for what they are. Democrats proceed at our own risk, if we continue to pretend that they are just a different political "flavor" in the mélange that is the US.

The destruction of the Gulf of Mexico is but a republican exclamation point . Exclamation points usually are at the END , and hopefully enough people will see this as the end of the oil era, but rest assured that there are republicans skulking around , just out of sight, who are already trying to spin their web of deception about this catastrophe, so they can go back to business as usual. They know from experience, that the public has a limited attention span, and if they ramp up their rhetoric, and create enough diversions, they can weather this storm.



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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:18 PM
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1. "Remediation, recovery, restoration ALWAYS cost MORE than prevention"
Yes.

But they won't be paying for the clean-ups.

The rich motherfuckers influencing Congress and the White House don't want to spend their money doing it right.

They'll spend our money cleaning it up.
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Curmudgeoness Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:29 PM
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2. Believe it or not, money is not everything.
I do not want to go hungry or homeless, but exactly how much money do we really need. No one seems to understand the difference between "want" and "need" anymore.

I agree with you, what is the worst that can happen IF the "environmental wackos" are wrong!!!! As to remediation, recovery, and restoration, it is NEVER the same as leaving things the way they were. Better than doing nothing, but from what I have seen of "restored" ecological areas, they are always lacking.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:29 PM
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3. slight correction: it's libs and cons, or left and right, not Dem and Repub
the Dems have had cons in them since the days of slavery and segregation, and the DLC explicitly made the party more conservative starting 1988 (in addition to the conservative surges of the Gilded-Age 1870s and the Cold-War 1950s)

hence we have a WH with Geithners and Rubins and Emanuels and Hillarys, and Presidential embrace of coal, nuclear, and drilling here and now: these facts will have to be faced as much as those of the OP
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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:38 PM
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5. True, but I just cannot seem to call them "conservatives".. they are anything BUT
and they all seem to love being called republican these days. I know it's just a name, but calling them conservative is not accurate either.. Reactionary Contrarians comes the closest to what I see them as.
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MisterP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:37 PM
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7. "con" as in "con artist": besides, going by Congress, a full 25-30% call themselves Dems nt
Edited on Wed Jun-16-10 09:39 PM by MisterP
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sendero Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 07:30 PM
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4. +1
Well said and unfortunately all too true.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-15-10 11:30 PM
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6. K & R
:thumbsup:
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 09:44 PM
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8. Republican ideology always looks at disaster as a money making opportunity
Zorg's conversation with Cornelius explains this thinking quite well:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=krcNIWPkNzA
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burrowowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-16-10 10:01 PM
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9. Nor do Democrats! Nor does Obama
Idiocy, greed, and fear of Corps is rampant!
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