Why did 11% of African-Americans support a pro-Apartheid ticket in 2004?

[BolivarianHero]

Cheney backed the Apartheid regime in South Africa and 11% of African-Americans voted for the GOP ticket in 2004.

[Iggo]

1. At least you stretched before you twisted.

You wouldn't want to pull something. would you?;)

[patrice]

2. friends and alcolytes of Clarence Thomas?

[Bigmack]

3. Stupid crosses all racial divides.... nt

[blm]

15. and RELIGION and homophobia....but, I'm being redundant

.

[Bigmack]

16. Stupid also crosses gender lines, too...

Fiorina and Palin being two excellent examples.

[LynneSin]

4. Money

Some people will sell out their race, their religion, their heritage and even their sexual orientation for the good of money.

[etherealtruth]

7. So true

In my sphere of friends and acquaintances I do not encounter the religiously insane or Palin worshiping "conservatives" ... the conservatives I encounter (sadly) are motivated by greed. They've got theirs and they will stop at nothing to make sure they keep it (or make it grow).

[Ardent15]

18. Yep

Money talks at the end of the day for many people.

[Dr Morbius]

5. No, 11% of the votes from African-Americans was counted as for Bush/Cheney.

We don't actually know who those people voted for. All we know is how those votes were counted.

Also, it's never a bad idea to point out the deeper truth, so it shouldn't be overlooked that Kerry ran an awful campaign.

[blm]

13. no...he didn't....corpmedia wants you to believe that...and refused to show the REAL campaign

that was going on at the time.

All you have to do is go to DU's Research Forum for the evidence of the most blatant disregard reSwifts by the media.

BTW....the perception pushed by corpmedia of Kerry's 'awful' campaign was due to his position AGGRESSIVELY opposing big media.

[politicasista]

23. People believe media lies when it comes to Kerry, but don't when it comes to Obama

Weird!


IMO, he should have put his top black aids Ayanna Pressley and Setti Warren out there now (now in public offices in MA themselves) out there more to debunk that spin that his campaign or staff had no blacks. IMO, Cahill and Shrum are the main ones who are at fault even though the senator took responsibility.

[politicasista]

25. Yep. Obama is "Mr. Perfect" and Kerry is

"Mr. Awful" when it comes to campaigning. :sarcasm:

The media lies about Obama all the time, but the media lied about Kerry, so it must be true!

[niceypoo]

6. Apartheid ended in 1994

This is Glen Beck chalkboard stuff

[NNN0LHI]

8. The Tonto effect?

[Nye Bevan]

9. Wow. I never realized Cheney backed Apartheid.

And I consider myself to be pretty well informed. Typical media cover-up.

[BolivarianHero]

10. Edwards brought it up in their debate...

If you're mainstream enough to be on a Democratic ticket, it's not much of a cover-up.q

[tabatha]

11. Yep, he thought Mandela was a terrorist.

When Rep. Dick Cheney voted against a 1986 resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela and recognition of the African National Congress, Americans did know this man had been waiting decades for his freedom. In a larger sense, so had all black South Africans. The tenets of American democracy -- one man, one vote -- were denied to the majority of citizens, along with the most basic economic and educational needs.

Yet Republican vice presidential candidate Cheney still defends his vote, saying on ABC's ``This Week'' that ``the ANC was then viewed as a terrorist organization. . . . I don't have any problems at all with the vote I cast 20 years ago.'' What, then, does this tell us about what information Cheney considers before he takes a decision? And what the long-term consequences are likely to be, and on whom?

By no means were Mandela or the ANC universally viewed as ``terrorists,'' evidenced by the fact that the vote on the resolution was 245-177 in favor, but still shy of the two-thirds needed to override President Ronald Reagan's veto.

http://www.commondreams.org/views/080300-102.htm

[moondust]

12. Media coverup/uninformed voters.

I have followed politics pretty closely for at least 10 years and this is the first I have heard of Cheney supporting Apartheid.

[DFW]

14. Why should ignorance and stupidity be the sole domain of white voters?? n/t

[provis99]

17. why do some African-Americans fly the Confederate flag?

Because there's no cure for stupid.

[Warren Stupidity]

19. Because African Americans are generally a more informed electorate than suburban white males?

That would be my guess as to why 89% of the african american vote went to Kerry.

[BolivarianHero]

20. It's not the point...

I'm a socialist; governments with various flavours of leftist ideology, from pro-Washington social democracy to Stalinism, were the first and most consistent opponents of Apartheid out of Africa. Unlike Brian Mulroney, leftists didn't wait until it was cool and politically expedient to oppose this oppressive system of governance.

The point I'm getting is that Dick Cheney took a specific action that essentially says that he would govern in ways that would be specifically prejudicial against Black people of all cultural and national backgrounds. People of other races and heritages had no reason to fear that Cheney's brand of reactionary politics would target them specifically. Cheney barely considers African-Americans human and yet still won 11% of their vote.

[Warren Stupidity]

21. You have no point, which was my point.

And again, obviously from the data presented by you, african american voters are far more informed than, for example, suburban white males, who consistently cast the majority of their votes directly against their own self interests, and have done so since 1980.

[William Z. Foster]

22. ridiculous

Because there is no "them" who all vote and think alike.

How is it any more strange that a person of color would vote for Cheney than it is that a white working class person would? Or are we to believe that all of the racists are in the Republican party, or that racism cannot be found among Democrats, or that Cheney's racism is somehow strange and unusual rather than the truth - that it is representative of the racism that permeates the entire white community to one degree or another.

[politicasista]

24. Eddie Long, Creflo Dollar, Kirbyjohn Caldwell, Harry Jackson, TD Jakes, etc.

They got tons of Faith-Based dough from Bush.