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Donnachaidh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 01:55 PM
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Who's behind the anti-immigrant crusade?
http://socialistworker.org/2010/06/11/behind-the-anti-immigrant-crusade

"CAN YOU hear us now, Mexico? Can you hear us? This land is not your land, this land is our land," proclaimed Atlanta talk radio host Larry Wachs, whipping the crowd of 5,000 into a frenzy.

The intent of the statement was to define the enemy and expose its insidious plot: nothing less than an international conspiracy of Mexico's children to invade and occupy Arizona soil, with the criminal intentions of finding work, raising families and achieving some semblance of social equality.

The attendees at the "Stand with Arizona" rally would have none of this. They were gathered on the evening of May 29 at Diablo Stadium in the Maricopa County suburb of Tempe, a few hours after more than 50,000 people marched against Arizona's SB 1070 in downtown Phoenix. A week later, the right's own "national mobilization" of pro-SB 1070 forces, under the name "Phoenix Rising," drew only 1,000 people, despite expectations for greater numbers.


:snip:

WHILE ARIZONA Republicans may take credit for SB 1070 to build their political careers at the expense of undocumented workers and their families, the law is actually a foreign import into the state.

SB 1070 is the brainchild of Kris Kobach, an anti-immigrant lawyer on the payroll of the Federation of American Immigration Reform (FAIR), a Washington D.C.-based lobbying group dedicated to promoting extreme measures against immigrants. FAIR is tied to the pseudo-scientific Center for Immigration Studies, which has put forward a framework for what it calls "attrition through enforcement" as a strategy to "shrink the illegal population."


MUCH More at the link ---
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TexasProgresive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:37 PM
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1. I had a weird thought on this yesterday
Some of the most adamant opponents of immigrant labor also tend to be the employers of the same. Since these people are all about money it came to me that they like their labor scared of arrest and deportation. If immigrants have legal status then they have legal rights and can file charges for abuse, file suit for lost wages and so forth.
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kctim Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:48 PM
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2. Interesting thought
good thing it is actually about ILLEGAL immigrants and not legal immigrants.
Sad that some people purposely leave out that bit of information in order to garner support.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:50 PM
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3. They're not exclusively Republican, for sure. (nt)
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:52 PM
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4. I don't believe people are anti-immigrant. They are against breaking the law IMO.
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 02:52 PM by L0oniX
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:57 PM
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5. Where are the Minutemen who protect our borders against law-breaking
European, Asian and African immigrants? Don't hear much about those immigrant groups, do we? Easier, I guess, to grab the low-hangin' local fruit.
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:54 PM
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10. Why?
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 03:55 PM by kiva
Illegal immigrants by country of origin:
All countries 5,000,000
1. Mexico 2,700,000
2. El Salvador 335,000
3. Guatemala 165,000
4. Canada 120,000
5. Haiti 105,000
6. Philippines 95,000
7. Honduras 90,000
8. Dominican Republic 2 75,000
9. Nicaragua 70,000
10. Poland 70,000
11. Colombia 65,000
12. Ecuador 55,000
13. Trinidad & Tobago 50,000
14. Jamaica 50,000
15. Pakistan 41,000
16. India 33,000
17. Ireland 30,000
18. Korea 30,000
19. Peru 30,000

http://poorbuthappy.com/colombia/post/illegal-immigration-by-country-of-origin-or-where-theyre-all-coming-from/

edited to add link
20. Portugal 27,000
Other 764,000
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 05:18 AM
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16. Why? Because by your own figures
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 05:25 AM by Heidi
--compiled by the dubious source that is the Department of Homeland Security-- 1,385,000 people of the immigrant groups you listed are from outside of the Americas. If you're not seeing the enforcement disparity, I probably can't help you.

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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:33 PM
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17. Even by these conservative figures,
the people from Mexico alone are more than double that total, not counting those from other Central American and South American countries. If you can't do the math, I probably can't help you either.
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Heidi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 01:48 PM
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18. Ah, so we'll just focus our enforcement efforts on the Mexicans.
Gotcha. :eyes:
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:09 PM
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19. You're right, we should focus our attention on the
70,000 Poles...or maybe the 33,000 Indians.

Bottom line, if you believe that the US has the right to control immigration, then you acknowledge that the (by far) greatest majority of illegal immigrants are from countries in the Western hemisphere, particularly Mexico.

If you want open borders - just for the US, apparently - you disingenuously say that we "grab the low-hangin' local fruit."
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kiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:11 PM
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20. You're right, we should focus our attention on the
70,000 Poles...or maybe the 33,000 Indians.

Bottom line, if you believe that the US has the right to control immigration, then you acknowledge that the (by far) greatest majority of illegal immigrants are from countries in the Western hemisphere, particularly Mexico.

If you want open borders - just for the US, apparently - you disingenuously say that we "grab the low-hangin' local fruit" and add the cute eye-roller.
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 02:57 PM
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6. Perfect wedge issue
Republicans know that they do not have the interests of working class whites at heart; so they distract them with the immigrant bogeyman.
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inenemyterritory Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:59 PM
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13. I respectfully disagree
The influx of illegals has dropped my income from $50K down to approximately $30K, I worked in the construction trades until it was no longer financially viable. I have since moved to SC, in hopes of getting a decent paying job with Boeing. If not, I will move again to somewhere I can afford to sustain a decent level of living.

The costs of housing and things are much cheaper than living in Milwaukee, WI so hence my relocation. I can live cheaper until things get sorted out.

This is where the some of the Libs are wrong, immigration is putting good hard working blue collar types out of employment, just for a few votes.

Why the unions are behind this, is beyond me.

Sorry for the rant,
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treestar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:21 PM
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14. That is too complex to have proof for
But the immigrants make a perfect group to scapegoat, don't they? It's all their fault.

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inenemyterritory Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 06:28 PM
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15. I guess
when I drive by a construction site and I see very few whites or African-Americans working, yes I will perceive that to be the case.

When you drive by a house receiving a new roof, do you notice the ethnic make-up, well I do, I realize this is a personal issue because I have been directly impacted. You may not.

As I explained before, it is a private rant for me. I do not wish to offend anyone and sorry if I have.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:14 PM
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21. You do realize that many of those roofers don't hve green cards, don't you?
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 03:15 PM by blondeatlast
Because they happen to be citizens?

What you wrote is VERY racist. You may not be, but what you said is--and I'm not going to lose my posting privileges on DU by telling you what I REALLY want to say.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:27 PM
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23. From what I have read, it is true that undocumented workers
Edited on Sat Jun-12-10 03:28 PM by EFerrari
impact a few trades disproportionately -- like roofing. And I don't see how a tradesman would be able to avoid being angry about that if he sees his work being given away cheap.

The thing is, the same NAFTA that screwed us screwed Mexican farmers and all the people who depended on that sector for their income. Workers here AND there, screwed by the same wrong economic policies. After NAFTA was passed, the population in Northern Mexico doubled because all those out of work people in Southern Mexico kept moving north, hoping to find anything to keep their families fed.

I don't know when I decided this but for a long time, I decided I have more in common with those undocumented, screwed over working people than I do with suits who pretend to listen to me and then, turn around and continue policies like NAFTA that screws working people everywhere. Obama said he would do something about NAFTA and then, he said he wouldn't.

That makes me angry. I'm not mad at people who are just trying to work a whole day. But I am really, really angry at politicians who are all hat and who probably never clocked in anywhere in their lives.



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Dems to Win Donating Member (245 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:40 PM
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7. I see no anti-immigrant crusade. The U.S. allows more legal immigration than any other country
There is a big outcry demanding that the federal government enforce the immigration laws so that ONLY legal immigrants and citizens are allowed to live and work in the U.S.

BIG difference.

And yes, that means send home the Canadians and Germans as well as the Mexicans. And no, this is not a new demand by people -- in California we passed prop 187 in 1994, 16 years ago.

I want living wage jobs for Americans and legal residents. We MUST enforce the immigration and fair labor laws in order to create living wage jobs.

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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jun-12-10 03:14 PM
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22. The Federal government is enforcing immigration laws
more vigorously today than it has since Raygun.

If you don't see an anti-immigrant crusade, you might want to check out this search to help focus your vision:

"anti-immigrant movement"

http://search.yahoo.com/search;_ylt=At__LSmmLAmOZaQTrzdNyx.bvZx4?p=anti-immigrant+movement%22&toggle=1&cop=mss&ei=UTF-8&fr=yfp-t-701

Or, you could just start with Amy's segment;

A Look at the Forces Behind the Anti-Immigrant Movement
http://www.democracynow.org/2007/5/2/a_look_at_the_forces_behind
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Riftaxe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:47 PM
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8. Anti-illegal immigrant or anti-immigrant?
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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 03:49 PM
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9. Many people want to see a rational immigration policy ...
but our President and Congress will probably avoid addressing the situation until after the mid term elections.

I have no problem with immigration from Cuba, Mexico or anywhere else. For many years I lived in a neighborhood in Tampa with neighbors from Cuba, the Dominican Republic, Columbia and El Salvador. All were hard working people and good neighbors.

Our current immigration policy is tragically flawed and many people from Mexico enter our country illegally to find low paying jobs. They have become the modern equivalent of slaves, underpaid and oppressed by the companies and individuals that hire them.


The fear of seeking help is even greater for illegal immigrants, said Maureen Rowley Barnett, a Chicago psychologist that specializes in immigration issues. They live in a constant state of anxiety and are often targeted by criminals and other offenders because they won’t approach the police, she said.

“The fear of the price that they would pay is great enough to keep them away from the police and anything to do with the law,” she said.

Hanus agreed. Though without visas they do not necessarily have the right to stay here, illegal immigrants do have the constitutional rights to safety and property just like any American, he said.

***snip***

Wage theft, discrimination and abuse are the main problems seen at Interfaith Worker Justice, Enriquez said.

She has heard stories of employees not allowed to use the restroom or being forced to relieve themselves outside. Construction, restaurant and domestic workers most often face these situations, she said.

Elena, who also didn’t want her real name used, is an illegal immigrant who was taken advantage of in the restaurant and domestic industries.

She is fighting wage theft against two previous employers with the help of ARISE Chicago Worker Center. The organization provided her with the knowledge of her rights that gave her the confidence to fight, she said.

“I didn’t have any fear,” she said. “If they’re going to deport me they will.”

A job at a local restaurant promised her $300 for 12 hours a day, six days a week. The boss began assigning her tasks outside of her job description and refused her pay for six months.

Paid in cash and no paperwork means Elena doesn’t have proof to support her case.

***snip***

While unemployed, Elena worked a few side jobs, including a cleaning job where she encountered another wage theft situation. Her cases are being reviewed by the Department of Labor, a process she calls slow and costly.

She suggests uniting with other coworkers when a case against an employer occurs.

“I think unfortunately Hispanics are fearful and we’re ignorant in terms our rights,” she said. “Hopefully those who’ve been through similar circumstances will share with others the knowledge they’ve acquired so that there is less injustice in the community.”
http://news.medill.northwestern.edu/chicago/news.aspx?id=164931




In many cases these people pay enormous sums of money to risk their lives crossing our border in areas that are extremely hostile.


Each year there are several hundred migrant deaths along the Mexico-U.S. border of those attempting to cross into the United States from Mexico without authorization from the Federal government of the United States.<1> The number of deaths has steadily increased since the middle 1990s with exposure (including heat stroke, dehydration, and hyperthermia) being the leading cause.<2>

According to the United States Border Patrol, 1,954 people died crossing the U.S–Mexico border between the years 1998-2004.<3> In the fiscal year ending September 29, 2004, 460 migrants died crossing the U.S.-Mexico border.<4> In 2005, more than 500 died across the entire U.S.-Mexico border.<5> The number of yearly border crossing deaths has doubled since 1995.<6> Yet the statistics cited by scholars and the media are merely the number of known deaths and do not include those who have never been found, grossly underestimating the actual number of migrants that have died attempting unauthorized border crossings.<7>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Migrant_deaths_along_the_Mexico_%E2%80%93_United_States_border


Perhaps I have a higher vision of what this nation should be. I think because we have ignored passing a rational and fair immigration policy for many years, we have failed to live up to what our country should be.

Both John F. Kennedy and Ronald Reagan spoke of a "shining city" or "city on a hill".


On 9 January 1961, President-Elect John F. Kennedy returned the phrase to prominence during an address delivered to the General Court of Massachusetts:

...I have been guided by the standard John Winthrop set before his shipmates on the flagship Arbella three hundred and thirty-one years ago, as they, too, faced the task of building a new government on a perilous frontier. "We must always consider," he said, "that we shall be as a city upon a hill—the eyes of all people are upon us." Today the eyes of all people are truly upon us—and our governments, in every branch, at every level, national, state and local, must be as a city upon a hill — constructed and inhabited by men aware of their great trust and their great responsibilities. For we are setting out upon a voyage in 1961 no less hazardous than that undertaken by the Arabella in 1630. We are committing ourselves to tasks of statecraft no less awesome than that of governing the Massachusetts Bay Colony, beset as it was then by terror without and disorder within. History will not judge our endeavors—and a government cannot be selected—merely on the basis of color or creed or even party affiliation. Neither will competence and loyalty and stature, while essential to the utmost, suffice in times such as these. For of those to whom much is given, much is required.<2>

President Ronald Reagan used the image as well, in his 1984 acceptance of the Republican Party nomination<3> and in his January 11, 1989 farewell speech to the nation:

I've spoken of the shining city all my political life, but I don't know if I ever quite communicated what I saw when I said it. But in my mind it was a tall proud city built on rocks stronger than oceans, wind-swept, God-blessed, and teeming with people of all kinds living in harmony and peace, a city with free ports that hummed with commerce and creativity, and if there had to be city walls, the walls had doors and the doors were open to anyone with the will and the heart to get here. That's how I saw it and see it still.<4>
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/City_upon_a_Hill


We must welcome immigration as it serves to make our country stronger in the long run. We must provide the opportunity for citizens to leave their poor and oppressive homelands and find opportunity and freedom in our nation.

Hopefully, Obama will push for immigration reform after the mid term elections. It will be a hard fight, but would be a significant part of Obama's legacy.




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pinboy3niner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:05 PM
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11. + 1000 Excellent post, great links
Here's another one on another motive behind the anti-immigrant crusade:


Behind the Arizona Immigration Law:
GOP Game to Swipe the November Election


Monday, April 26, 2010
by Greg Palast for Truthout.org

Don't be fooled. The way the media plays the story, it was a wave of racist, anti-immigrant hysteria that moved Arizona Republicans to pass a sick little law, signed last week, requiring every person in the state to carry papers proving they are US citizens.

I don't buy it. Anti-Hispanic hysteria has always been as much a part of Arizona as the Saguaro cactus and excessive air-conditioning.

What's new here is not the politicians' fear of a xenophobic "Teabag" uprising.
<snip>
What moved GOP Governor Jan Brewer to sign the Soviet-style show-me-your-papers law is the exploding number of legal Hispanics, US citizens all, who are daring to vote -- and daring to vote Democratic by more than two-to-one. Unless this demographic locomotive is halted, Arizona Republicans know their party will soon be electoral toast. Or, if you like, tortillas.
<snip>

But that's the point, isn't it? Not to stop non-citizens from entering Arizona -- after all, who else would care for the country club lawn? -- but to harass folks of the wrong color: Democratic blue.



http://www.gregpalast.com/behind-the-arizona-immigration-lawgop-game-to-swipe-the-november-election/


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spin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 05:36 PM
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12. After suffering through eight years of Bush the Junior and his cronies in Congress ...
I welcome more Democrats of all races and genders.
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