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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:58 AM
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Calif. has a nuke plant event

http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index.php?smp=&lang=eng


Operators at Diablo Canyon nuclear power plant declared an "unusual event" today as a result of a small chemical spill. The event began at 11:12 a.m. when sodium hydroxide, a chemical commonly used as a drain cleaner, spilled in the west side of the plant’s turbine building, which houses the plant’s two electrical generators. The spill was contained and cleaned up by 12:41 p.m. No one was injured and the plant continues to operate at full power. The spill prompted Pacific Gas and Electric Co. to declare an "unusual event," a situation out of the normal operations of the plant that does not require an emergency response. Plant officials determined that the spill could have restricted access to some equipment in the area.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:59 AM
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1. How the hell is drain cleaner in a steam turbine a nuke event?
:rofl:

More like a steam event.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:13 AM
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6. It's pretty damned corrosive, depending on what it gets spilled on.
IMHO it shouldn't even be IN a place that danger-prone. There are other ways to keep drains clean.
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:16 AM
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7. It was spilled into a non-nuclear steam turbine.
It would be no different if it happened at a coal plant, natural gas plant, or thermal solar plant.

I do agree it is kinda stupid to have drain cleaner near a turbine. Those things are very expensive to replace.

I was just questioning the "nukeness" of non-nuclear drain cleaner being spilled into non-nuclear turbine.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:29 PM
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15. It wasn't even spilled in the turbine...
it was spilled in the turbine building.

Sid
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 02:09 PM
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18. ROFL.
Wow.



I think this guy is cleaning it up.

Sure is dangerous to spill liquids in here. Without a "danger floor wet sign someone might fall and hit ... oh yeah NOTHING.

Turbine building is mostly empty floor space. :rofl:
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:39 AM
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11. Caustic soda will not touch most metals nor will it damage concrete.
That makes it damned near the perfect cleaner for such materials, since it does disolve/break down dirt, oil, grease and other organic materials. It's also not enormously toxic. (However, take it from me, it IS NOT a substance you want to get on your wedding tackle.)

That is exacty why it is the cleaner of choice in dairies. And it seems nuclear power plants.


And Ensho. What next? You're so close to the bottom of the barrel now that soon you'll have to start egging guardhouses to create "incidents" to report.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:35 PM
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19. I know all about sodium hydroxide. I damned near have a minor in chemistry,
and have made homemade soap using it several times. Nothing to trifle with.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:53 PM
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22. I damn do have a materials engineering background
and can tell you that there is no part of a steam turbine that will be critically damaged by any concentration of Sodium Hydroxide.

I used to make coke bottles blow up with red devil lye, I am sure that is some terrorist act now.

Your own "fight club" soap aside this is not an event.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:23 AM
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23. Who said it was an "event"? You are making a conflict between us that
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 12:25 AM by kestrel91316
doesn't exist.

I may just stop bothering to post on DU at all if jerks like you keep up with this crap. Sheesh. Can't even have a benign conversation.

Get the chip off your shoulder and calm down.

Oh, and WTF is with the FIGHT CLUB crack??? I made some really nice soaps and didn't have to do anything gross to do it, either. Grow up.
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TheMadMonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:29 AM
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24. Of course nothing to trifle with. But in comparison with a lot of other...
...compounds out there, NaOH is NOT particularly dangerous.

As for that minor in chemistry, perhaps you should round it out with at least a semester of critical thinking. Your nearly minor chemistry degree and a modicum of common sense should have told you that the only things that might be harmed in a turbine hall by caustic soda are people and the dirt.

Absent the oooooh scary, scary nuclear reactor, 2 buildings and 20 metres of concrete away, this is a non-issue. Would you have commented the same way about a caustic spill in a dairy? An abitoir? A butchers?
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:49 PM
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17. ensho posts one of these for anything worse than a printer jam. (nt)
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:00 AM
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2. I'm anti-nuke, but spilt drain cleaner hardly sounds like an "event"
Oh shit, Larry spilled his coffee, take us to Code Red.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:02 AM
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3. In further news...
a worker used a bucket and a mop to clean up the mess, removed the "Slippery Floor" sign, and went to eat a sandwich.

:rofl:

Sid
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RoyGBiv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:09 AM
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4. I spilled some NaOH on a parking lot once ...

Actually I did it once every week for about three years.

I had no idea I was creating nuke events. Damn. I guess that's why my eyes glow green and all the popcorn pops in the grocery store when I got down that aisle.

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OneTenthofOnePercent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:10 AM
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5. I wonder if everytime a guy misses the urinal it's a "nuke plant event"...
If so I'll bet there were 300 nuke plant events yesterday.
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name not needed Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:30 AM
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25. To be fair, one time one of the engineers locked his keys in the car.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:20 AM
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8. If we got the bulk of our power from wind, would we be seeing "wind events" from you?
Maybe every couple of hours or so? I'm really curious as to what your intentions are. If it's to get DU terribly afraid of nuclear power, you should know it's not working. Will your next 'nuke event' be a nuclear technician who missed the seat when he went to take a leak?
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Statistical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:21 AM
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9. Breaking: NUKE EVENT!!!!! Vending machine in worker's breakroom fails to dispense candy bar.
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EOTE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 12:02 PM
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14. That's it. Who's the CEO of nuclear energy?
I need some outlet for all this rage I'm feeling. If anyone here has a nuclear powered car, they should sell it right now to send a message to this guy.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:32 AM
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10. Wow! The folks living in Avila Beach probably had to run for their
lives, eh? Some Drano spilled on the floor. Now that's a "nuclear" event!

Why do you continue to post non-events as though they were real emergencies? Sorta like crying wolf, isn't it.
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dionysus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:39 AM
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12. continually crying wolf about these things doesn't promote your cause... just sayin'
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superduperfarleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 10:55 AM
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13. Awesome, sounds like it was handled appropriately.
Glad to see that nuclear power remains so safe in this country.
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yodoobo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 01:44 PM
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16. My Solar Cell on my roof failed last year. I guess that was
A super-nova event.

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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:38 PM
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Someone brought lutefisk in and spilled some?
jesus you are really reaching.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:38 PM
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20. dupe
Edited on Thu Jun-10-10 09:38 PM by Pavulon
dupe
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-10-10 09:45 PM
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21. I was just a few miles from Diablo Canyon while all this was going down;
I really feel like I dodged a bullet here. I mean, I could have been vaporized! ;)
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Codeine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:46 AM
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26. Ensho is an inspiring example of anti-nuclear-power activism.
Edited on Fri Jun-11-10 01:03 AM by Codeine
Somebody spilled a teaspoon of Drano in a building and it's an "event."

Meanwhile tons upon tons upon tons of filth - some of it radioactive - are being belched daily into the fucking air (and our lungs) from coal plants that could have been replaced with clean nuclear power and she doesn't say a bloody word.
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Confusious Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-11-10 12:58 AM
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27. Nuke event! Plant has gas explosion

People lighting farts on fire! Next.
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