Eff the SC Dem Party leaders: the Fowlers. I don't know why they are surprised about Greene.

[Are_grits_groceries]

I didn't vote for Greene, but this is what they get for turning the SC Dem party into a cozy little nest for themselves. They rarely bestir themselves to actually function as true leaders.

This could have been an anti-Fowler vote.

Don Fowler was the idiot who did this:
"ABC News' Teddy Davis Reports: Former DNC Chairman Don Fowler apologized on Sunday for joking in a private conversation that the timing of Hurricane Gustav demonstrates that God is on the side of the Democrats."

Carol Fowler is the idiot who did this:
On Wednesday, South Carolina Democratic Party Chairwoman Carol Fowler told a reporter for the website Politico that Sen. John McCain chose a running mate "whose primary qualification seems to be that she hasn't had an abortion."

Don't be so sure it was the Diebold machines. The majority of the voters know as much about Greene as they do about Rawl.

In 2008, this is the lunatic who won the Dem primary:
Bob Conley:
“Bob Conley is not publicly endorsing Obama. That’s his personal business, he said, adding that his dream ticket would be led by Pat Buchanan, with Ron Paul as vice president…”

****Conley's candidacy is an example of what happens when a party doesn't have a viable candidate, College of Charleston political scientist Bill Moore said. In this case, voters picked someone lacking Democratic credentials and the money to put on a credible race.****

They have let the party atrophy so much that they have ruined it. It's always been an uphill fight, but when it got harder, they got more insular and less involved. In SC, you have to work twice as hard, and this is what you get if you continually don't.

They back somebody who has some credentials and expect the general party voters to elect him. Beyond their little group, they probably don't know who is actually going to vote in the Dem party. They backed Clinton over Obama which is no sin. However, they are so arrogant and stupid that the way they do things makes people furious.

I didn't vote for Greene. However as an unemployed, military veteran, he is the perfect person to run against DeMint if he has 2 functioning brain cells and somebody will back him.

This could be some Rethug monkey business, but why would they bother???

This will be interesting as it plays out. He can't be worse than Conley.

You know how it makes you feel when the leadership seems to ignore your views? Welcome to that when it is taken to an extreme by those leaders.

[old mark]

1. Amen...he made it this far by himself - he might just win given some support.

Democratic pols believe we will suppoert them no matter what because the GOP is so idiotic it is like a cartoon...but they have toactually start doing something for us on occasion to deserve the job.


Good luck, Mr. Greene.

mark

[KharmaTrain]

2. Time To Build A Party...

Your situation soundes similar to what I had to confront in my area throughout the 80s and 90s. The Democratic party was a joke...a country club for people who not only couldn't win elections but were happy about it. They'd support their buddies or those who could write big checks. It led a bunch of us to organize and decide to rebuild the party...join the worst of the party offices and move to get rid of the deadweight. It took a while but the new energy brought in more and more people and transformed many of these local organizations into effective organizations and today I'm proud to say I'm not represented by a single rushpublican...not even on the local level...not even dog catcher.

Many of these parties organizations could use some new blood...new ideas and energy. And if those currently in the party don't like it, they can either lead, follow or get out of the way.

CHeers...

[Are_grits_groceries]

3. Thank you so very much for your advice.

I really did need the lecture about what to do and how to do it. We have just been sitting around on the front porch and chewing tobacco.

You have no idea what people have been trying to do amidst the wreckage of the party, fighting off the fundies, fighting off the Fowlers and crew, and just plain fighting to be heard.

A lot of people have been down here fighting there whole life against one thing or another. We had to fight like hell to get a decent try at getting someone Like Jim Clyburn elected.

It never ends and neither do the insults, the snark, and helpful advice.

cheers

[KharmaTrain]

4. Sometime You Just Get Tired Of Losing...

No lecture here...just some words of support. I know the Fowlers have been running things in SC for a long time and what do they have to show for it? I can understand your frustration and let that anger and energy do something positive. If your situation is similar to what I encountered, you'll be amazed at how easy it is to make differences on the grassroots and local level...we'd go to some offices with 10 people and all but take over the place...and ironically, most of those who were already there were grateful to see some new bodies. Sure there are those who will resist, but with such a shitty track record, they either have to put up or move along. Most would move along. Good riddence to bad garbage.

These days we have too many things that divide us...and this is what those in power hope to happen. It's amazing what a group of people can do when they are focused and energized. If there's a state that could use a good cleaning it's the Palmetto state. Also always remember, you're not alone out here...there are many of us who have and are ready to help.

:patriot:

[blindpig]

5. They are utterly useless

and most damn near as reactionary as the Republicans. They are an intramural team from the Chamber of Commerce League. Dixiecrats in all but name.

Why bother?