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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:42 AM
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"Carelessness is usually a sign of impending disaster," he said.

In the 1980s, an average of about 2,900 barrels of oil and other toxic chemicals spilled a year. That figure rose to more than 4,400 in the 1990s and to more than 6,100 in the 2000s. Offshore oil production increased during that time, but the rate of barrels spilled per barrels produced continued to increase.

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http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2010-06-07-oil-spill-mess_N.htm
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:59 AM
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1. I guess pointing out that W was responsible for the climate that lead to this spill
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 10:59 AM by HughMoran
is not as popular as it used to be.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:03 AM
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2. That's so two years ago...
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 11:04 AM by Lone_Star_Dem
If you want to hang with the cool kids you really need to do a better job of keeping up. :sarcasm:


Seriously though, I blame the Dick more for this mess. He was the hands on guy in squashing regulations and paving the way to our current disaster. That's not saying I don't blame little boots too, I'm just a bit more pissed of at the Dick.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:06 AM
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5. Dick was hired and worked for Little Boots
Not letting the dim one off the hook on this one :)

But yes, Dick was the actual person that did the dirty work for his Texas oilman boss.
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:25 AM
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8. I'm not letting Bush off the hook, but the real oilman there was the Dick
Bush knows people in the industry and of course would do whatever they told him to, but he was as clueless as to the the actual going on within the oil industry as he was in running a country. His entire political career was created because the ones who created it knew they could manipulate him. Which they did exceedingly well.

Bush is a greedy, heartless bastard who despises the common person, but he was never smart enough to have come up with, let alone implemented, much of what was done during his administration. Which makes him no less responsible, but it does raise the level of responsibility on a few of those "advising" him.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:53 PM
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11. Oily Dick
EWWWWW! :yoiks:
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Lone_Star_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:23 PM
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21. .
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 03:23 PM by Lone_Star_Dem
:spray: :thumbsup:
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azmouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:05 AM
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4. Yep.
'Cause everyone knows if Obama had shown more leadership when W was pResident none of this would have happened.



Do I need the 'sarcasm' thingy here?
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:08 AM
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6. LOLly, LOLly, LOLly!
:rofl:
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:16 PM
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13. Why would you conclude that?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:06 PM
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17. Right after I posted, it dropped like a rock
It was just a way to self-promote my post so others might take a gander. ;)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 03:08 PM
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20. There could be other reasons no one read it.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:02 PM
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22. thanks for the kick.
:P
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:11 PM
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23. What does that mean?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:14 PM
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24. you kicked my thread
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 04:16 PM by HughMoran
(I suppose you may have implied a below the belt shot previously, but I'm ignoring that as it assumed an interpretation on my part)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:18 PM
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25. I would never assume anything about you.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:28 PM
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26. Good
:dilemma:
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:09 PM
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18. Great numbers, thanks
But I still don't let Obama off the hook for failing to change this environment, or for the response to the Gulf spill.

But I guess it wasn't a priority. You know, a few executive orders to change things for the better on the FIRST day in office would be nice. And oh look, Gitmo's still open.

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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:03 AM
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3. And a washed-up actor shall lead them...
Good point--and Ronnie RayGun set the stage with massive deregulation.

k/r
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:13 AM
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7. No doubt the Republican's policies set the stage for these problems.
It is important now to tighten up regs and safety standards, pronto. And equally important to put as much daylight between us and 'them' as possible right now.
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 11:42 AM
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9. I agree
This is our opportunity to crack down on the industry.
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laughingliberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:13 PM
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10. Carpe Diem and all that. We need to push our more 'pro-business' Dems on this. nt
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Capitalocracy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:10 PM
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19. Doesn't seem to be the direction we're going.
No supermajority, after all.

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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:58 PM
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12. During 2000 campaign, Bush said "Businesses MUST be allowed to regulate themselves."
We've seen how that turned out haven't we? Every industry where regulations were relaxed, not enforced or removed hurt our country and caused financial ruin to millions of Americans. Now because of the Bush/Cheney evil millions more people are being hurt.

I hope someone who is in a leadership position in the democratic party wakes up and capitalizes off of all the carnage caused by conservatives. If they were smart the democratic party would pick up seats instead of losing them. But I haven't seen many smart things come out of democratic leadership. It's obvious the people are not their masters. To many of them corporations and the wealthy own them.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:23 PM
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14. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, HughMoran.
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Union Yes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:24 PM
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15. K&R nt
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:52 PM
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16. K & R
:thumbsup:
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