"Bush's Torture Experiments Criticized" by Jason Leopold (6-7-10 Consortium News)

[bobthedrummer]

"Physicians for Human Rights has accused the Bush administration of using 'war on terror' detainees as human 'guinea pigs' to gauge the effectiveness of various torture techniques, a practice that has raised troubling comparisons to Nazi-era human experimentation."
http://www.consortiumnews.com/2010/060710b.html

[Echo In Light]

1. "Look Ahead!"

K/R

[bobthedrummer]

2. "Outlaw nonconsensual human experiments now" by Cheryl Welsh (6-16-09 Bulletin of the Atomic

Scientists)
http://thebulletin.org/web-edition/op-eds/outlaw-nonconsensual-human-experiments-now

Don't be afraid, we don't torture...

[sabrina 1]

3. So when do we start upholding the rule of law? I thought

that would happen when Democrats were in the majority. At least that is what we were told when we tried to get some accountability after Dems won in 2006. 'Wait, we don't have enough power yet. But all this will be dealt with when Dems control all three branches of government, so we must work hard to achieve that'.

So far, how many torturers have even lost their jobs? Helen Thomas just lost hers, but the architects of torture are esteemed College Professors and lecturers on 'national security'.

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[bobthedrummer]

5. Internal Rifts on Road to Torment-Interviews Offer More Nuanced Look At Roles of CIA Contractors

(archived kpete thread started 7-19-09)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x6101849

[bobthedrummer]

20. ^ an important repost indeed^

[DisgustedTX]

6. A few business hours until the Rove indictment

Pathetic losers.

[jtrockville]

7. A scary precedent has been set in the USA:

It's ok to violate the Geneva Conventions.

[bobthedrummer]

8. kick

[bobthedrummer]

9. Report by Physicians Group: Doctors Helped Interrogators Refine Harsh Methods (active LBN thread

started by Hissyspit 6-7-10)
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4416131

[tritsofme]

10. Let's hope Jason gets to the bottom of this story

in the next 24 business hours.

[wmbrew0206]

29. Agreed!

+1

[bobthedrummer]

11. From Stephan Soldz's blog (posted 5-29-10 Psychoanalysts Oppose War.org)

Project Artichoke Far Worse Than MKULTRA?
http://psychoanalystsopposewar.org/blog/2010/05/29/project-artichoke-far-worse-than-mkultra/

From The National Security Archive, CIA's Inspector General Report on Project ARTICHOKE (pdf)
http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/NSAEBB/NSAEBB54/st02.pdf

[bobthedrummer]

13. CIA Inspector General Position Vacant For 14 Months (by Adam Goldman AP via 6-8-10 Huffington Post)

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/08/cia-inspector-general-pos_n_604008.html

Then there's all those "privateers", like Xe, not to mention every service branch's Special Access Programs...

[upi402]

12. Democracy Now! should be on MSNBC not Public Access Cable

Amy Goodman had GREAT interviews on this. A+

K/R

[kenny blankenship]

14. People have screamed "Godwin!" so often the word has lost all its force and meaning

[bobthedrummer]

15. ^

[Echo In Light]

16. Astonishing lack of thread support on this, considering

[Solly Mack]

17. Here's a story from 2005

U.S. Doctors Linked to POW 'Torture'
Guantanamo medical records misused; Basis of interrogators' strategy: Report


http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/0623-06.htm

[bobthedrummer]

18. Thanks Solly Mack

:hi:

[Solly Mack]

19. You're welcome, btd. Here's another DU thread with more links posted

:hi:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8503558

[bobthedrummer]

21. ^

[bobthedrummer]

22. k n/t

[bobthedrummer]

23. "...troubling comparisons to Nazi-era human experimentation" Nazi-era "data" was used here...

[WeDidIt]

24. Something should be done about it in 24 business hours. n/t

[bobthedrummer]

25. On a related note the Pentagon "wants" Julian Assange

Pentagon hunts WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in bid to gag website (by Chris McGreal 6-11-10 Guardian)
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2010/jun/11/wikileaks-founder-assange-pentagon-manning

[bobthedrummer]

26. We don't experiment-kick

[bobthedrummer]

27. The Torture Archive (from The National Security Archive)

http://www.gwu.edu/~nsarchiv/torture_archive/index.htm

[bobthedrummer]

28. 8 days a week kick