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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:06 AM
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Mother Shocked At Wendy’s Toy
Mother Shocked At Wendy’s Toy
Prize In Kid’s Meal Has Sexual Language

ATLANTA -- When you buy a kid’s meal at Wendy’s fast food restaurant they are now giving music CD’s as toys. The CD disco fever features “Last Dance” by Donna Summer, Summer sings so horny.

The karaoke sing along CD says it is for children ages 3 and up. But, what some people listened to is definitely for adults only.

The lyrics written on the cover of the CD do not say so horny, it says so bad. But, when you listen to the song it is clear that the wrong version of Summer’s song was put on the toy.

"Oh my god I have heard that song 500,000 times in my life and I have never heard that lyric ever,” said mother Kate Denny. “The fact of the matter is it is inappropriate and should not be given out on a children’s CD at Wendy’s. I would be outraged and would want to go in and tell Wendy’s this is not appropriate or something they should do. They should clearly pull it from the stores. Shame on Wendy’s.”

CBS Atlanta News asked workers at the Wendy’s on Howell Mill Road if they were aware of the sexual language. “I did not know that was on there. I am going to listen to the song and call corporate other than that I have no comment,” Manager Schwanda Washington said.

http://www.cbsatlanta.com/news/23806826/detail.html
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:12 AM
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1. this is happening too much
My husband and I are concerned about letting our son see Toy Story 3 because in the commercial Barbie says to Ken, "Nice ass--cot." Come on. Is that really necessary in a movie that is made for small children? I didn't let my son watch the Alvin and the Chipmunks movies either. There is too much sexual inuindo and sexism in those movies. The chipettes shaking their butts to Single Ladies and the chipmunks drooling over them. Come on. What are we trying to teach our pre-school children?
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asthmaticeog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:22 AM
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2. It's called parental bonus.
Those jokes go COMPLETELY over the kids' heads, but are scripted so the parents who watch with their children (all three of them that are left in America) don't find children's entertainment treacly and ponderous. This is older than dirt, you'll even find it in old episodes of Sesame Street. To the part of the audience made up of little kids, jokes like "ass-cot" aren't innuendos at all. They're literally nothing.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:28 AM
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3. Yeah, but on Sesame Street you'd get things like..
Cookie Monster dressed up like Alistair Cooke and he would say "I'm Alistair Cookie and this is Monsterpiece Theater"..

The reason so many people hated Barney was that there was *nothing* in Barney for adults at all..

There was even a usenet newsgroup called something like alt.purple.dinosaur.die.die ..
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:35 AM
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5. just because it is older than dirt doesn't make it right
I've heard my little boy make sexist comments due to watching something sexist on tv and I have had to change his viewing habits and have some serious talks with him about respecting women.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:56 AM
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37. This is the problem with a male-led society.
Feminism needs to be re-discovered.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:14 PM
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87. Right.
Oh, for the good old days.

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apocalypsehow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:19 PM
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110. Haa haa haaa. Excellent!
:thumbsup:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:05 PM
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97. Exactly--and as a parent, I sooo appreciate it. My son had no clue about the zesty jokes
Toy Stories and Shrek films, but I enjoyed them just as much as he did.
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:24 PM
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190. And those "adults" only find humor in sexual innuendo, sarcasm, and insults.
The entire world is filtered through that lens.

It's a sad society, this 21st-century U.S. of A.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:17 AM
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209. to pretend this goes over kids head is wrong with so many kid shows. a parent that cant be bored
for a couple hours because the show is kid appropriate says something too. being a parent really isnt all about me.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:32 AM
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20. The modern Alvin and the Chipmunks sucks
The original version, from the early '60s, is sooooo much better.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:02 AM
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41. I think so, too!
The 60s version of Underdog is also 200% better than the sucky CGI movie version of that which came out a few years ago.
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Art_from_Ark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:14 PM
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118. The Chipmunks on the Flying Trapeze
Those Chipmunks are so cute when they cause mischief
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRzS1mVWPCQ&feature=related

Everybody, do the Alvin Twist
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FF7qP3LqdG4

And if it's not Wally Cox, it's not Underdog!
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:41 AM
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212. Sssssssssssssssssssssss!
I love the movie Underdog. Cleverly done as a live action film.
GAC
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:41 PM
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173. Do you let your kid watch Bugs Bunny? nt
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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:28 PM
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191. Reading your post makes me super happy.
I really appreciate knowing that other liberals reject the notion that being liberal means embracing the distorted, hyper-sexualized and sexist pop culture - especially for toddlers and pre-teens.

Thank you for being a responsible parent!
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:24 AM
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201. Responsible parents also teach their children how to navigate the world that they actually live in
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 12:26 AM by FedUpWithIt All
innuendo and all.


I have been watching films with my children for 17 years. I limit exposure according to age and we talk about the things we see. I don't hide the world from them, i limit it into digestible parts. Then we discuss. To death, if necessary.


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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:47 PM
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223. Excellent.
That's responsible parenting.

You "limit exposure" but don't "hide from the world". That's all anyone can do. You understand the "guidance" in "Parental Guidance".

However...

We (society) create "the world we actually live in" through our choices, what we expose ourselves to, and what we tolerate. The tolerance of hyper-sexualization of entertainment media ostensibly designed for children is not some sort of naturally occurring phenomenon. It's a product of human effort.

To dismiss concerns about a particular content's suitability for young children by saying, "that's the way the world is," is the contemporary progressive's equivalent to the fundamentalists' calling the Deepwater Horizon disaster "God's will".

The world is not the cinema.
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:33 PM
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227. Good!
That's exactly how I raised my kids. They were open to discussion on any subject because of it, and they never worried about asking a dumb question... because there aren't any. It's not always easy. When my oldest was five (now 32) he asked about babies... I gave him the tidbits... and he asked for more... I gave a little more, and he asked for still more. I finally had to give him the full story, which he thought was really disgusting and funny. I wasn't going to lie to him, and avoiding things only caused him to be more curious. You learn, if you pay attention, and it sounds as if you are:)

Two things happened when my kids were little that clued me in that I was doing the right thing. When my second son came running out of the bedroom yelling... hey Mom! Jon has dick hair! He was so excited:) So I played along... and we fell naturally into a discussion about the changes he himself would be noticing soon. It was awesome to realize my kids weren't hiding things like that from me, like I had from my folks.

The second event was when the first son was 9 or so, and we were watching a documentary on the old south. He was very confused about separate drinking fountains, sections in restaurants and buses, restrooms, etc. I explained how some people thought back then in some detail. He literally fell to the floor laughing. I was shocked... couldn't figure out what the heck! He sat up and said, that is the most ridiculous thing I've ever heard.

Parenting is rough, but it has it's golden moments:)
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JTFrog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:30 AM
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4. She says so so ho bad so.....
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 06:31 AM by JTFrog
I think people hear what they want to hear.

I replayed it a few times and I can see how someone might mishear it, but all I hear is "so so ho bad so"... She drags out the "so" part before saying bad. I really don't think horny has a d sound in it.

My son on the other hand can only hear "horny" because that's what he read before we listened to it.... :shrug:
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:00 AM
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26. yah she doesn't say 'horny' anywhere in that song :(
:shrug:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:25 PM
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140. According to lyrics freak, she does.
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:09 PM
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147. Lyrics Freak should be called..
oh I don't know, something DUMB :mad:
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:27 PM
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151. Uh, ok.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 06:34 PM by HuckleB
:shrug:

It's quite obvious, when you listen.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG07rYStCjw
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stuntcat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:23 PM
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168. oooo dang!
guess it IS what she says. I've had this mp3 for years and heard it like a hundred times but never picked that up. I didn't even re-listen today because I thought this sounded NUTS :blush:
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:20 AM
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219. You would have to give me how far into the song it happens...
Song sucks too bad to listen all the way through. I doubt any kids would listen to it anyway :rofl:
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:26 PM
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141. I've heard that song 1 million times...never heard a version with "horny"...n/t
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:34 PM
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185. It's the full-length version.
Not sure which album you would find it on, probably the "Thank God It's Friday" soundtrack or a 12"
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calico1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:41 AM
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6. I was a teen durinig the 70's and well remember Donna Summer
and her hits.

Most of her songs had two versions...one that you heard on the radio and the other that came on the album. The latter had much more risque lyrics. Not to mention the sound effects simulating her having sex.

If it is the latter versions that are being released in these toys then I don't blame the mom for being upset.
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:04 AM
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60. I think you're talking about just one song - correction
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 10:23 AM by blogslut
I Feel Love and Love to Love You Baby. I don't remember any of her other songs having alternate lyrics.

EDIT: The more I think about it, it was just the one song, Love to Love You Baby. Granted, it was banned on some stations for the moaning but actually, there's really no actual dirty words in it. The alternate (Disco) version played on the air because the US-release vinyl recording was almost 20 minutes long.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:51 AM
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7. What about the CHILDREN?!
Yeah. The children. To all the adults who hyperventilate over these kind of things, the children are oblivious. They don't know the words, and don't care. If they hear them, they won't know what they mean.

This is another in a long line of phony overreactions by adults who should know better than act that way.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:57 AM
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8. Children are not oblivious
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 07:01 AM by liberal_at_heart
My son was becoming sexist and violent because of his tv watching habits. I started changing his tv viewing habits and started teaching him to respect women and that violence is always wrong and he has changed his behavior alot. We start teaching our children from infanthood. They learn from our setting an example or lack thereof. Why do so many boys think girls can't do the same things boys can do? Are they born thinking that way? Why do boys think that girls are only there for their pleasure? Are they born thinking that way? NO. My daughter got all dolled up(high heels, curled her hair) for her first high school dance thinking she was going to catch the eye of a nice guy. I told her don't fool yourself. Dances are like nighclubs. They are meatmarkets.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:10 AM
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9. Yes, the children are oblivious to vaguely suggestive lyrics.
You're attempting to equate things that are not similar.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:14 AM
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11. Well I've seen it happen to my own children so I know better
but you are entitled to your opinion and I am entitled to keep my children away from things that I think are harmful for them. So no harm no foul. They can make whatever movies and music they want. I just won't be taking my children to see them.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:17 AM
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12. Well, you certainly think you have, but then you compare dissimilar things.
Your attempt to equate what you described with a song that has somewhat suggestive lyrics is absurd, and suggests you do not rationally process information.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:19 AM
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14. Thank you so much for that insult. I'm sure you are a fine example to young children.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:24 AM
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16. I am, and I've done a great job rearing my own kids.
You should consider the possibility that your attempt to compare Donna Summers' lyrics to violent games and shows was absurd, and having painted yourself into a corner, you argue, instead of admit the absurdity.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:27 AM
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18. I refuse to be brought down to your level of rudeness so I will simply say have a good day and stop
responding to you.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:28 AM
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19. When Donna Summers lyrics equal violence, get back to me.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:17 PM
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148. Winner. n/t
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:08 PM
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98. But did he REALLY get the "zesty" jokes in Toy Story and Shrek? My kid was completely oblivious to t
them and couldn't understand why I and the other adults in our parties were laughing.

If your kid got them--I just don't know what to say to that.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:45 PM
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177. So you weren't teaching him these things before you used the TV as a babysitter?
:eyes:

Sorry, not buying the "TV made my son sexist & violent" crap.

dg
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:40 AM
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203. "Dances are like nighclubs. They are meatmarkets"
How sad that you placed that on your daughter. I have to suppose that you, yourself, had been allowed your own experiences which led to your opinions of such things.

Have you forgotten what it felt like to view the world with the hope of youth? Did you have to place the negativity and shame, which you gained through the experiences, brought about through your OWN CHOICES, on your young daughters hopeful joy?

She might have made better choices, met kinder people and had a brighter experience if you had only allowed her to. Instead, her joy was filtered through your negativity.

Sorry for letting you know how i feel about your personal situation. It just made me incredibly sad to think of a young girl feeling shame for wanting to dress up and enjoy a young social occasion.

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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:13 AM
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10. Children do not know better...
how many times have girls sung the Grease remix? I sang that with friends at girl scout events when I was younger. We had no clue what "the chicks will cream" meant back then!

It may shock parents, but use it as a teaching moment. Nothing can replace vigilence in knowing what your kids are watching. No one can censor movies, music, etc for you. Let the rest of us adults have our fun.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:18 AM
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13. Grease was definitely a movie I did not let my teenage daughter watch
She still has not seen that movie. She also hasn't seen Fast Times at Ridgemont High or Porkey's or American Pie.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:26 AM
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17. Oh, she's seen them. She knows better than to tell you.
You don't stop children from seeing such movies. You stop them from giving you such information as they saw the movies.
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muffin1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:25 AM
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30. Absolutely right.
I say that as a daughter whose parents forbid me to watch PG movies when I was 16.
I watched every 'bad' movie I could get my hands on.

Some people are WAY too uptight.
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blueamy66 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:44 PM
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113. Oh yeah.
Kids will find a way.

We sure did.
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:02 AM
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40. I wouldn't bet on that.
Those movies are all pretty old. The newer equivalents? Yeah, probably.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:03 PM
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68. You can find any movie you want on the Internets, with
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 12:07 PM by msanthrope
a few clicks. You just have to know where to look.

Within three seconds, I found, this--NSFW

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIcSuyZjjIM

I won't post the lassie clip....
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:33 PM
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112. I understand that...
my point was that most kids don't care about any movie over five years old!
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Sebastian Doyle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:51 PM
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114. And this classic gag from the same movie
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ghsuk6GiEN8 (again NSFW!)

A few years later, I actually used that name to get my "12 albums for a penny" from Columbia House :evilgrin:
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:46 PM
Response to Reply #40
125. Grease is on the tube
regularly, on one cable channel or another.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:55 AM
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55. Wrong, in my case. I know what my daughter has seen and what she
hasn't. She's more strict than I am in terms of content.

Believe it or not, some kids and some parents are actually on the same page.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:45 AM
Response to Reply #55
64. Well, that's certainly what you believe.
Utter delusion.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:15 PM
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189. I understand that you can't wrap your finite mind around such a concept.
But you don't know me. You don't know my daughter. I do. And you could not be more wrong.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 06:51 AM
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204. I understand you're kidding yourself.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 06:56 AM by TexasObserver
Your statement regarding a finite mind is absurd, the kind of jibberish one spouts when they don't really know what it means. You're human. You have a finite mind, just like every other human. That you would use such a silly and inapplicable term suggests you don't understand the term.

Parents who hover over their children and demand unreasonably of them will be deceived by their children. You can tell yourself that isn't you, but those who have completed this process of rearing children know better.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 04:48 PM
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225. Thanks for the laughs.
:rofl:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:12 PM
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102. Sad that you are robbed of those teachable moments.
:rofl:
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:10 PM
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100. +1. Exactly. my friend, the daughter of a "perfect" mom, saw "Anerican Gigolo" with me.
You know, at the Library... :rofl:
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:26 PM
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121. Your avatar is so, so perfect for this thread
Thanks for the laugh.

(and I agree with what you've said here 100%).
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:40 PM
Response to Reply #121
124. Thanks! I'd forgotten about The Church Lady.
That character brought to life every moral scold in America. The simple truth is that kids do not pay much attention to things that they don't understand. They may inquire, and if they do, I believe in telling them straight up. I raised three that way. My rule was "if you can formulate the question, I'll give you an answer."

The idea that you can hide the world from your kids is a fallacious one. The truth will out. They will always know things you don't know they know. They will always have secrets they don't tell you. I believe you herd kids in a direction, you don't put them on a leash.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:50 PM
Response to Reply #124
198. That's how the Church Lady operates, isn't it?
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 11:51 PM by Withywindle
I love all the posts on this thread.

For the record, my parents were very open with me about sex and allowed me to read anything I wanted when I was 11 or so (including the "factual, scientific" Shere Hite and Nancy Friday paperbacks I bought at the drugstore with my allowance) but very much against war movies and horror movies.

That's a position I completely respect and would probably take with my own kids if I had them, but I still know I snuck out with friends and saw The Prophecy and The Shining and Halloween and Blade Runner and Das Boot - all films I really enjoyed, some of which traumatized me, but I knew I couldn't discuss them with my folks because I was never supposed to have seen them in the first place.

Whatever you forbid to talk about, that's what your kids will crave knowledge about the most. So choose your forbidding carefully.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:50 AM
Response to Reply #13
23. Your daughter has seen every single movie you told her not to watch.
And a few more you'd probably have an apoplexy over.

Bet on it.

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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #23
31. You know nothing about my relationship with my daughter
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 08:33 AM by liberal_at_heart
We have watched Juno together. We watch Teen Mom on MTV and listen to Lady Gaga together and talk about sex. She learned how to use a condom in sex ed at school this year. She has told me when her friends are acting irresponsible like grinding at dances and many other very private things that have happened to her that have made her feel uncomfortable in those situations. And by the way, our kids don't always necessarily want to have sex especially girls and would love to be able to express their worry over it not just how much fun it is suppose to be like the movies show them. Just because I don't let her watch sexist movies does not mean we don't talk about sex. And maybe she has seen these movies at other people's houses. But she knows that the way the men treat the women in those movies is wrong because that is what we have taught her.
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Common Sense Party Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:57 AM
Response to Reply #31
56. Don't you just LOVE when anonymous people on the internet think they
know YOUR child better than YOU?
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petronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:59 AM
Response to Reply #31
58. I don't have kids, so I hesitate to respond to this thread, but it strikes me
that people are talking past one another here. The complaint in the OP article might be exaggerated, but it's a mistake to brand every expression of concern about what kids see as hyperventilating puritanism. We've had plenty of discussion here about clothing for kids, or music/costumes for little girl dance teams, or innuendos in kids movies, and it seems pretty clear that the appropriateness line is shifting - we definitely should be talking about it, because kids will internalize what they see, even if they don't understand it entirely.

I like the adult jokes in kids films (when I'm forced to watch them) but I've observed that those jokes have become much coarser and more obvious in recent years. There's a huge difference between "nice ass-" and the Monsterpiece Theater reference from above, for instance...

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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:24 PM
Response to Reply #58
71. I agree with you---
I don't think every expression of concern is puritanism...but I think the OP is overreaching.
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:27 PM
Response to Reply #58
72. Correct. Not every such expression of concern is hyperventilating puritanism.
97%, tops.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:23 PM
Response to Reply #58
111. I'm more bothered
by "erectile dysfunction" and "male enhancement" ads being forced on the family while we're all watching something on TV together.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:38 PM
Response to Reply #111
134. Right?
Don't get me wrong, the side effects are hilarious, but they are really reaching. My favorite is delayed backache...yeah, no shit! If you haven't had much sex lately and you're over 50, that would definitely throw something out! The worst are the ones with "Bob" being a "chubby santa"...that's just not attractive!
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:09 PM
Response to Reply #134
137. Oh, the Bob ads!!!
Enzyte Bob, with his happy hard-on. Ew.

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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:48 PM
Response to Reply #137
143. Awww! My eyes!
just no, ew, ew!
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:30 PM
Response to Reply #143
152. Sorry.
Really. I am sorry, for all of us, and especially for Bob's screen wife who was the smiling, allegedly happy recipient of his bulging manhood. Ew. Yuk. (I hope she made some obscenely big paychecks for those ads.)
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #152
154. I suppose everyone has a price...nt
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:29 PM
Response to Reply #154
170. True. Lol -eom
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:21 PM
Response to Reply #137
195. I think those commercials are hilarious!
I like them a lot better than the "serious" ones with the couple in separate symbolic bathtubs.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:59 PM
Response to Reply #58
192. Well, if people are losing their shit about a singer who MIGHT or MIGHT NOT
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 11:01 PM by Withywindle
be saying the word "horny" in a way that's so buried in the mix that many adults who remember it well from the disco era aren't sure whether or not it's really there...


than yeah, I would say that is over the top.

I was a child in the 70s and certainly knew that song well from the top 40, and believe me, I don't remember that word. We'd have been all over it, because in elementary school, we used to tease each other with that word all the time, even though we didn't understand what it meant. We just knew it was "dirty" and that was all we needed to be into it.

Meanwhile, we were also the original "Grease" generation and we all liked that movie just for fun--no one clued us in to what "the chicks will cream" meant. (We would have loved it even more if we knew.) Wasn't an issue, we just liked the songs and the cars and the clothes.

Now, just a few years later with Prince, that was a WHOLE other level of revelation. :9

I do think the appropriateness line is shifting, and I really think a lot of it has to do with parents--I mean, how much of the slut-wear-for-grade-school-girls was influenced by the whole child-beauty-pageant phenomenon? And how much of that terrifying crap is driven by stage mothers, not "society" or the girls themselves?

Children will always be in a rush to grow up. Children will always see some aspects of the adult world as more exciting and interesting and desirable than their small, safe, circumscribed childhood worlds. That's as old as children--and, in its way, natural. All fledglings of all species are ingrained with a desire to leave the nest. There's a delicate balance to be established here. Being totally permissive isn't the answer, but neither is trying to control all input to one single adult idea of what's "age appropriate." The best thing, IMO (and no, I'm not a parent--but I used to be a kid, and dammit, that's good enough to have an opinion) is to allow general pop-culture-freedom up to a certain point, but also provide alternatives from a copious parental library of possibilities, and to leave the avenues of conversation open. And to occasionally put down the parental foot and say, "You're not going out of here dressed like that!" but don't abuse it or else the meaning of the parental stompy foot will be devalued.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:13 AM
Response to Reply #31
62. I don't get it.
Juno - one of the most fictional pieces of forced-birthing happy horseshit ever produced is a good mommy-daughter film, but Grease is taboo?

I'm sorry, but I just don't understand.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:52 PM
Response to Reply #62
82. The lyrics of Greased Lightning is provacative...
that's what I was talking about when I spoke up:

With new pistons, plugs, and shocks I can get off my rocks
You know that I ain't bragging she's a real pussy wagon
Grease lightning

and:

Go grease lightning you're coasting through the heat lap trial
You are supreme the chicks'll cream for grease lightning
Go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go, go

I take no offense to them now, and really they're just vulgar descriptions of teenage sexual encounters, as they were in high school. I knew that stuff by then, but I knew the songs back in elementary school. Not that I think that made me lose my innocence or anything...
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #82
83. And yeah, just remembered...
anyone remember Lady Gaga and Beyonce's truck in the Telephone video? It was called the pussy wagon! I heard outrage, but only from some loon on faux!
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:14 PM
Response to Reply #82
105. Lol. My goodness,
I never even thought about the lyrics. I doubt I ever heard/knew the words well enough to be upset about them - though mostly innuendo and plays on words (like so may other songs, lines) - I'm positive my kids never found them nasty when they were young.

It's funny - we were watching the movie Big with Tom Hanks just a week ago. (It was one of our favorite movies when the kids were younger.) If you remember, the scene where Tom Hanks takes the female coworker home, and she suggest sleeping over, he hesitates and then says something like, "OK as long as I can be on top" (of his bunk beds). My now teenage son just started howling. It was the first time he got the joke. When he was younger it was over his head, though he still loved the movie.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:22 PM
Response to Reply #105
133. I get that often
when I see a film for the first time since childhood...Pee Wee's Big Adventure is a good one for that kind of stuff! :)
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:13 PM
Response to Reply #62
103. I was thinking the same thing. nt
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:15 PM
Response to Reply #62
194. THANK YOU!!!
Yeah, teenage pregnancy and all that happy horseshit is fine, because, you know, a stripper wrote it!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:27 PM
Response to Reply #62
196. Juno ENRAGED me.
Like you said.

It was like all the YA "problem" novels that used to be written for kids in the 70s --teen pregnancy was a favorite theme--but at least most of those didn't have much time for the idea that the only "good" choice is forced-birthing-for-your-social-betters.
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:58 AM
Response to Reply #31
67. "And maybe she has seen these movies at other people's houses."
Bet on it. You can watch them on the Internets, with a few clicks...

I'm not saying your kid isn't great and responsible, but I taught teens before I went to law school.

They get exposed to stuff. They seek out stuff. They don't tell their parents even innocuous things because they want their privacy. It's what they do.

You'd be amazed at how many teens have seen hard-core porn, drank, smoked, etc...even the great and good kids.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:44 AM
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #13
46. OK. I'm having a stupid moment here,
I guess. What is wrong with Grease? I'm just drawing a complete blank.
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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:28 PM
Response to Reply #13
73. I saw it about 5 times in the theater
and I was under 8 years old. No clue about the suggestive comments.

When I realized as I got older, I thought it was funny.

I don't know.... lyrics are lyrics. I think they float over children's heads. You can't protect them from everything, and I honestly don't get the outrage. That's me.

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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #13
180. Hahaha Wanna bet?
I had a friend whose mom's corset strings were pulled a bit too tightly, if you know what I mean, yet she still was able to get into Saturday Night Fever, Grease, & a few other movies I can't recall now, but would definitely give you the vapors.

dg
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:22 AM
Response to Reply #10
15. Children are oblivious to many things their parents find objectionable.
Much of the "oh, Lord, I'm gonna catch the vapors" material falls into that category. The Janet Jacket nipple scene at the superbowl is the classic phony overreaction by "concerned" parents, none of whose kids were watching the show.

Concern about violence is one thing, but there's nothing violent about Donna Summer's tunes.
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Alcibiades Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:32 AM
Response to Reply #15
21. And, from a biological perspective, nipples
are for kids. We're urged to encourage breastfeeding, but go all moralistic at the sight of a human body part specifically designed to be suckled by babies. No baby has ever done so, so I wonder who is really being childish on this subject.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:56 AM
Response to Reply #21
25. nipples yes, breasts bouncing around for men's arousal no.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 08:18 AM by liberal_at_heart
Some on this thread seem to think they know me. I have a very open and honest relationship with my children. I have allowed my son to watch National Geographic special on indigenous tribes when women were walking around naked breast feeding babies. That is natural and is a good teaching moment about what women's bodies really look like and why women have breasts. Heidi Montag is not what a woman looks like and I'm glad to see the public backlash over what she has done to herself. My son is going through puberty right now. He has a particular cartoon character he finds pretty and gets an erection when her hair flaps in the wind. I have told him it is natural and he has no control over when he gets erections. He does however have control over how he treats women and he needs to respect the fact that women are here for more than to just arouse men. Women have their own opinion, thoughts, and ambitions and he needs to be respectful of them.
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happy_liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:12 PM
Response to Reply #25
70. I am careful with what my children watch, like you...
The other day my kids were watching a preview of 'click' where Adam Sandler slo motions the woman jogging by with her breasts bouncing in a low cut top....and my 13yr son said "that's rude" and daughter "geez"!

It is not natural to automatically objectify women, they have to be carefully taught.



The woman's movement has gone completely backward. We wanted to be appreciated for what we already did for our families, appreciated for who we are and allowed the freedom to become whoever we wanted to be. Instead, Women are objectified more than ever, women have no self respect from a young age, girls giving blow jobs in middle school and it couldn't possibly have anything to do with that "Polly's Power Pole" dancing kit she got for christmas when she was 8. Personally I think it is in the media(I cannot imagine that anyone doesn't see that it is more prevalent now), the malls with their sexy swimsuits for 5 year olds ....all by design. They want us distracted. They want lots of poor people and cannon fodder. Now they have teenagers thinking it's AOK to get a girl pregnant in high school. Even the movie Juno helped make it seem acceptable.
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WolverineDG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:58 PM
Response to Reply #70
183. If no one bought those hooker swim suits, they wouldn't sell them nt
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Raineyb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:20 AM
Response to Reply #10
45. That's true. I saw Grease for the first time when I was eleven in theaters
Granted this was several years after the initial release but I digress. The point is after that we'd try to see the movie every time it was on. And we had no idea what some of those lyrics meant We just enjoyed the music and the story. Re-watching it in later years when I caught on to what the lyrics were saying I'd find myself saying "Oh!" as I actually understood what was meant.

Same with Blazing Saddles. I watched that movie a million times and it was only until more recently that I caught some of the jokes. (Granted I didn't watch that one as often."

Children will only understand what they're ready to understand. If they don't know the jokes go right over their head. It really isn't that serious.

And frankly I think the sexual innuendo is far less dangerous than the violence we allow on regular TV without batting an eye.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:48 PM
Response to Reply #45
93. That's what kids experience. They don't register "adult" references.
Good humor for kids is often laced with adult humor, from cartoons, to movies, to TV shows. It is designed that way, and when we're kids we don't hear it. When we become adults, we do.

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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:48 PM
Response to Reply #10
161. Am I the only one who thought they were singing about Hand Jobs in that song about Hand Jive?
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RadiationTherapy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:02 AM
Response to Reply #7
27. When my daughter (8.5) hears something she doesn't know the meaning of
she is not oblivious; she asks what was meant by it.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:20 AM
Response to Reply #27
29. Thank you. Children are much smarter than parents give them credit for.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:33 AM
Response to Reply #27
47. I will say that when I was puzzled by lyrics from the Grease songs
I SURE AS HELL did not ask my parents! They were protective and uptight enough (not puritans, but baptists). Perhaps we did not have as open a relationship as we all would have liked, looking back.
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:41 PM
Response to Reply #27
197. As they should!
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 11:43 PM by Withywindle
What's wrong with a kid asking, "Mom/Dad, what does 'horny' mean?" And you answer back, "It means in the mood where you want to have sex."

What is so difficult about that? I really don't get why this would be considered bad. I mean, if the kid is old enough to ask, surely they've been taught on the physical mechanics. (My parents started with me when I was like, six. cause I asked them where babies come from and they told me the whole truth.) And if they're pre-prepubescent, it probably would have no emotional impact except for, 'Oh, that stuff, ew.'

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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #7
35. Hyperventilation to one person is merely parental concern to another.
Hyperventilation to one person is merely parental concern to another.

I imagine it depends both on our perspective and any pre-conceived notions we may hold that we wish to better validate...
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hedgehog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:59 AM
Response to Reply #7
39. Did you miss the part that this is a product aimed at children?
I can understand people rolling their eyes about concern over children seeing products aimed at adults, but this is aimed at children.
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Arkana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:57 AM
Response to Reply #7
66. A-fucking-men.
I am so sick of these Protect-The-Children crusades I could vomit. Kids by and large don't understand or care.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #66
90. Yes, the "but the children" meme is used to justify adult attitudes.
Usually, it is the right wing that uses this particular meme, but we have our share of people who promote their biases by claiming it is the kids they are worried about.

No kid ever suffered from hearing a Donna Summers song or from watching Grease. It's ludicrous to suggest that either one is harmful to kids.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #90
91. so, they make a toy for little kids that isnt appropriate and we should NOT think about the child
interesting twist on parenting.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:52 PM
Response to Reply #91
94. No, I'm saying your concerns are absurd, as is your rationalization.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 01:54 PM by TexasObserver
The child is oblivious to the language that seems to offend you and the others who "claim" to be outraged. This isn't about the kids. It's about the parents who are pushing their ridiculous agenda over this minor event.

If you don't like it, don't go there. Don't patronize the fast food place. But don't pretend this has anything to do with "the children." This is about the reaction of a handful of parents who like to pretend they're acting from moral outrage.

There is nothing inappropriate about the toy. What's inappropriate is your reaction to it.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:05 PM
Response to Reply #94
96. my concerns, rationalization, seems to offend, outrage is where?
i am speaking about the posters comment. i havent expressed my opinion on this particular product given to the 3-6 yr olds. and with that very little post i made you get "What's inappropriate is your reaction to it."

do lecture me some more..... while being totally uninformed in all your righteousness and pretend outrage.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:09 PM
Response to Reply #96
99. You think the toy is a problem because it has a song with the word "horny" in it.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 02:13 PM by TexasObserver
THAT is the problem - your reaction and the reaction of those who think the toy is offensive. I told you DON'T PATRONIZE WENDYS if that gets you all riled up. But stop pretending this is about anything substantive. The kids don't know the word, don't pay attention to it, and could care less if mom has the vapors over it.

This is not about kids. This is about adults who are addicted to being outraged over innocuous things.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:18 PM
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:16 PM
Response to Reply #108
119. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 03:17 PM by Warren DeMontague
Children might read your post, including the f-word, and then before you know it, just because they saw those four letters, they'll be smoking crack and pregnant.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:31 PM
Response to Reply #119
123. and this board is exclusively created and given to children? fuck that shit, wink. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:39 PM
Response to Reply #123
157. I think if the worst thing a kid comes across is Donna Summer singing the word "horny"
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 06:39 PM by Warren DeMontague
odds are, they'll turn out fine.

I think the food at Wendy's is way worse for them than the song, personally, but they'll probably survive that, too. I did.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:02 PM
Response to Reply #157
162. i think we know that horny isnt even close to all the garbage the kid comes across
so i think that is probably a less than representative comment.

IF the kid merely came across horny, i dont think we would have adults so angry
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:05 PM
Response to Reply #162
163. That's the topic of the OP.
I mean, I realize there's a great deal of chair-throwing anger over cultural degeneracy and rampant fornication and whatnot that isn't specifically about a Donna Summer song containing the word "horny" turning up in a Wendy's Happy Meal---


but perhaps said aggrieved parties should start a new thread on those other outrages, then.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:10 PM
Response to Reply #163
165. or maybe the anger just carries on along with the continue comment prude, and THINK ABOUT THE
CHILDREN

meme too.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:40 PM
Response to Reply #165
172. Or, maybe people really need to pick their battles.
Because this one is about a Donna Summer song with the word (gasp!) "Horny" :o
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:46 PM
Response to Reply #172
178. you know, you brought up if this is the worst.... i responded to that.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 07:47 PM by seabeyond
you wanted it to be just about the thread, shouldnt have added that into your post, firstly

secondly, this is a huge corp. clever people. making a toy for 3-6 yr old. they can make sure there isnt sex in the song, that the song is appropriate for a 3-6 yr old. that is not to high of an expectation. if they cannot be responsible doing their job, then it leaves the parent to tell them, to be responsible doing their job.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:23 PM
Response to Reply #119
139. Ok, I LOL'd...
and my kids are so fucked!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:00 PM
Response to Reply #99
127. since that post was deservedly deleted, i simply say, prove where any of your accusations
are correct

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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:51 PM
Response to Reply #90
144. I'd say the left and the right both use this meme.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:43 PM
Response to Reply #144
158. There are control freaks, puritans, and self-appointed morality police on both sides.
You would think that having, for instance, Phylis Shlafly and the Smith College Womens Studies Department in such close agreement on the need to immediately put a stop to consenting adults looking at pictures of other consenting adults fucking would make people think twice about the gibberish they're echoing, but, still it continues.
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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:20 PM
Response to Reply #90
149. I first mentioned Grease to show that
I had no clue about chicks creaming at that age! I didn't turn into a raging slut or anything. My point is that it's harmless, whether or not they actually know what it means.

Once I told my mom to "eat me" in French. Bad idea because she spoke french. But, she was more outraged that I knew what it meant, not that I actually told her to eat me! It wasn't a respect issue for her which is why it was so fucked up. It was fake outrage that I'd lost some part of my virginity or something. Ridiculous!
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:04 PM
Response to Reply #7
85. I agree. most kids who are going to be getting this are oblivious.
they don't know these words so they don't react to them. my 18 yo niece was reading a passage during Advent this past Christmas and came across the word "orgy" which she read as 'or-ge'.....she had no idea what she had read/said. Mind you she is not some dim witted kid......she is just finishing up her first year at Embry Riddle in AZ (no comments please ;-) ) and made the Dean's list. If parent's do'nt react......odds are the kids won't either.

Lenny Bruce said long ago that there are no dirty words.......people make words dirty.

he is absolutely right!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:07 PM
Response to Reply #85
86. If she's curious about THAT particular word again, show her the comic "Asterix in Switzerland".
I'm serious.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:45 PM
Response to Reply #85
92. "Lenny Bruce said long ago that there are no dirty words.......people make words dirty."
That kind of clarity has been plowed under by a new generation that seems to find offense at the most innocuous of matters.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #92
222. sad, but true. n/t
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:02 PM
Response to Reply #7
129. I completely agree.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:37 AM
Response to Reply #129
202. It's a simple lyric in a Donna Summer disco tune.
Edited on Tue Jun-08-10 12:41 AM by TexasObserver
The attacks on it are delusional. The right isn't the only side with people who embrace a phony morality.

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Toucano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:07 PM
Response to Reply #7
193. Little pitchers have big ears.
Where do you suppose that idiom comes from?

Your opinion on this issue is completely misinformed.

"...the children are oblivious..."

WRONG. Children are sponges, absorbing everything in their environment.

"They don't know the words, and they don't care."

They don't have to know what the words mean, but they care very much. Mommy's laughing. This made mommy laugh, so it must be good. It must be worthy of imitating because it produced a positive response.


"...another in a long line of phony overreactions by adults..."

WRONG again. It's a very genuine RE-ACTION to:

1.) the egocentric, self-satisfying CREATORS of the entertainment products who insert sexual humor and innuendo into products ostensibly produced for children to amuse THEMSELVES and

2.) SELFISH fucking so-called adult parents who can't sit for 70 or 90 minutes in a movie theatre with their child unless there's SOMETHING IN IT for THEM, as if that's too much of a sacrifice to expect them to make.

You're confusing the genuine backlash of they hyper-sexualization of children and materials produced for children with the "phony overreaction" by PURITANICAL religious zealots who believe all entertainment produced must pass the "okay for children" litmus test.

Material produced for children SHOULD be entertaining and comprehensible to children, but not all material produced needs to meet that standard.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:39 AM
Response to Original message
22. Well it's a disco tune
And for that reason alone children should not be allowed to listen to it. And here we thought (and prayed) that disco was dead.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:54 AM
Response to Original message
24. Irony anyone?
Stupid parents worry about a toy poisoning childrens minds.....
While dumping garbage down their guts in the form of fast food.
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AnArmyVeteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:12 AM
Response to Reply #24
28. You get the PRIZE for the best post in this thread! Thanks!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:26 AM
Response to Reply #24
32. ding ding ding....
absolutely
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Arkansas Granny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:58 AM
Response to Reply #24
57. Wonderful response.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:08 AM
Response to Reply #24
61. God I love you!
How many days a week do you get to hear that??

:rofl:
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 11:37 AM
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65. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #24
75. LOL...
and then there is that! :)
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:31 PM
Response to Reply #24
76. Mad props for you.
:thumbsup:
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msanthrope Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #24
78. Thread win. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:47 PM
Response to Reply #24
80. right. cause reality is, being the good parent you are, is to DENY kids ALL things that might be
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 12:53 PM by seabeyond
unhealthy or at the least not GOOD for them. that is really the SMART parental move.

oh wait....

for you it is all or nothing. where as many of us parents teach our kids moderation. indulge only periodically. use as a lesson in health, diet and exercise.

i know a LOT of adults that can learn that lesson, but haven't yet. as they make snarky comments about a kid eating junk food.

how many on this subthread cheering you on ought to have a refresher on limiting fast food or junk food.

pathetic post

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #80
126. Yeah....
but the same can be said about the song.

If you are going to feed the child junk (whether it's food or music), they aren't going to get much nutritional or educational sustenance out of it. Is hearing the word "horny" in a stupid song going to do any more damage then eating a burger and fries?
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:06 PM
Response to Reply #126
131. i do say the same below
about the sexually inappropriate trash fed to our kids regularly.

i looked at the words to the song. no horny in it. havent listened to it, but wouldnt matter, i can never pull out the words in songs. but

comments like

oh noes, think about the kids.

is a huge wtf to me. this is made for 3-6 yr olds so i would think the very definition would be thinking about the kids

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Dorian Gray Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:18 PM
Response to Reply #131
138. I do see that
I also think that some people (like the woman who claims that this is so inappropriate because of the word horny) overreact to things that aren't so damaging. Especially when the lyric doesn't exist at all.

Luckily, parents have control of these things and can take away inappropriate toys/music from their younger kids. ONce they hit their teen years, they'll probably sneak it all in, anyhow.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:53 PM
Response to Reply #80
146. Yes, I parent like this. I allow food like this once in a while, however ro
I wouldn't freak out over a Donna SUmmer lyric ffs.
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Evasporque Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:37 AM
Response to Reply #80
205. BZZZ ..I'm sorry that is a incorrect response....
Any IDIOT parent that complains about a toy most likely consumes fast food and gives it to their kids more than once a month.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:08 AM
Response to Reply #205
207. bzz. wrong answer. a parent that is concerned enough to be aware of what the kids receive are
much more likely to be aware of all aspect of the kids upbringing. simple common sense. my logic outweighs your clueless, uninformed made up fact.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:15 AM
Response to Reply #205
208. parents get healthier meal for kids, yet the adults dont make the same healthier choices.
http://www.portfolio.com/views/blogs/heavy-doses/2010/01/25/study-shows-parents-pick-low-cal-happy-meals-when-nutrition-information-provided


In fact, meals were reduced by more than 100 calories on average when parents were given the nutritional information, compared with a group of adults who didn't have the data, Seattle researchers found. The study included 99 parents of kids 3 to 6 years old who sometimes eat at McDonald's. Half of the parents were given the calorie information. The results were published in the journal Pediatrics.

While there have been other studies showing changes in ordering behavior when nutritional information is listed on fast-food menus, the researchers at Seattle Children's Research Institute say this is the first to show that parents will significantly reduce the number of calories for children's meals when menus are clearly labeled.

*


One interesting aside: When ordering for themselves, parents in the study didn't reduce calorie counts for their own orders.

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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:45 AM
Response to Reply #208
213. "Healthier"?

:rofl:

Well, that's all relative, isn't it?

Also, just for your edification, this cd is not a "toy" that was developed specifically for kids. It's a karaoke cd where you can mute the lyrics and sing them yourself. It comes with everything, which apparently includes happy meals. Far as I know, most three year olds don't read lyrics very well. But your outrage is highly entertaining as usual, so do carry on.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:47 AM
Response to Reply #213
214. outrage? and your strawman is consistent. nt
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:48 AM
Response to Reply #214
215. You don't know the meaning of the word either. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:01 AM
Response to Reply #215
216. i was back and forth between your hyperbole (outrage) and strawman 3 yr olds cant read.
that's gwen
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Gwendolyn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 09:48 AM
Response to Reply #216
217. You've responded so often in this thread your emotions are clear to everyone.

No big deal though. It's fun to read. And no, many if not most 3-year-olds can't read or have difficulty doing so. It's not a strawman to mention it, because I was illustrating that the cd was not developed to market to children specifically. which appears to be a repetitive post of yours on this thread. Merely correcting a factual error of yours. Now that's about all the time I have to waste on you today, so have a good one.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:14 AM
Response to Reply #217
218. except you focus on 3, the youngest age targeted and ignore readable age
beyond 3.

no, gwen, no agenda there
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:11 PM
Response to Reply #24
101. +100000000
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:16 PM
Response to Reply #24
106. Cha-ching! Well done. nt
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:01 PM
Response to Reply #24
128. yep...
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:40 AM
Response to Original message
33. Oh God, more puritanical moral panic.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:50 AM
Response to Reply #33
36. Impressive isn't it?
Makes one wonder about these people's fitness to be parents.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:36 AM
Response to Reply #33
48. Yup. It's important to be outraged over trivialities. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:15 PM
Response to Reply #33
88. Children have been known to spontaneously combust from hearing the word "horny"
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:52 PM
Response to Reply #33
145. Yep, but no panic about the crappy, nasty food they feed their kids.
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liberal_at_heart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 08:57 AM
Response to Original message
38. I am so done with this thread
Aparently you have to advocate all sex all the time or you are a puritanical Christian who hates sex. There is no in between on this board, but that is the norm around here.
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:04 AM
Response to Reply #38
42. .
:rofl:
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verges Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:10 AM
Response to Reply #38
43. I missed the part of the thread where people
"advocate all sex all the time "
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #43
109. Well, I pled downthread to it. nt
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:53 PM
Response to Reply #43
136. The really neat thing about moral panics is that you *have* to throw basic logic out the window
Anyone who disagrees with your overreaction has to be a fan of kitten-eating or whatever is being outraged about today, you see. Part of the reason the damn things are so effective is that when people try to bring some simple sense into the things they tend to get insulted or worse until they give up, and the ban-ban-ban crowd wins another one.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:11 AM
Response to Reply #38
44. advocate all sex all the time or you are a puritanical Christian who hates sex
yes.

evidence all around the continual sexualizing our youth as we are lectured by non parents that it is healthy for our girls to wear thong undies at 5 and play with pole dolls and giving our boys porn at 8

why the fuck not

they have to learn about sex somewhere. and sex is natural, after all .

though the sexual garbage fed to the kids is girls being ho's and boys fucking and pushing aside when done with them

i am pulling bits and pieces from all over the place in this post....

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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:38 AM
Response to Reply #44
49. Don't forget that all little girls are princesses
that will be rescued in her early teen years by her prince so she can grow up without an education and make babies! Disney's gold, right?

Jeez, I just have to say I'm happy I don't have kids...it's too much hassle to deal with this crap!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:43 AM
Response to Reply #49
51. age appropriate of course, what i learned to do, take these events and discuss with boys
help them out with insight in the conditioning our society is doing, the corruption it does to ourselves, inevitably creating bad choices and an unhealthy life.

i have taken these events as opportunities as lessons for the boys

it has created exactly the opposite of what would think would happen with this conditioning. the kids are awesome in their insight, self thought, decision making.

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meeshrox Donating Member (522 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:02 AM
Response to Reply #51
59. I really need to ask what my mother in law did...
she got it right!
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:33 PM
Response to Reply #44
77. Yep. Only the extremes exist.
:eyes:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:44 PM
Response to Reply #77
79. no. there are a lot of us raising our children in the middle of the road.
the two extreme though make it a bet more of a challenge. part of being a parent
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:48 PM
Response to Reply #79
81. Tell that to liberal_at_heart.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 01:19 PM
Response to Reply #81
89. a product made for little kids "so sick of these Protect-The-Children crusades
i could just vomit" comment, and i need to be concerned about liberal?
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:03 PM
Response to Reply #38
69. That's the sort of binary thinking that is making people question you n/t
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:29 PM
Response to Reply #38
74. Hissy fit is hissy.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:18 PM
Response to Reply #38
107. Guilty as charged; I do nothing but advocate for all sex all the time. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:18 PM
Response to Reply #107
120. Woo-Hoo!
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:28 PM
Response to Reply #120
122. It started when I refused to join the PTA and it was all downhill from there!
:rofl:
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:48 PM
Response to Reply #38
135. The only lack of in between on this is in your head. Take a basic logic class sometime. (nt)
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X_Digger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:40 AM
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50. Lovejoy+++
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blogslut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:44 AM
Response to Original message
52. Wait, what?
What the hell version of Last Dance contains the word "horny"?

I call shenanigans.
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:04 PM
Response to Reply #52
130. That is my question.
I'm trying to figure out at what point in the song the word would even fit. I don't believe the word horny exists in any version of the song.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 04:08 PM
Response to Reply #130
132. i am not seeing it either. they are saying it is "i'm so, so horny" instead of bad.
Last dance
last dance for love
yes, it's my last change
for romance tonight

I need you, by me,
beside me, to guide me,
to hold me, to scold me,
'cause when I'm bad
I'm so, so bad

So let's dance, the last dance
let's dance, the last dance
let's dance, this last dance tonight

Last dance, last dance for love
yes, it's my last change
for romance tonight

Oh, I need you, by me,
beside me, to guide me,
to hold me, to scold me,
'cause when I'm bad
I'm so, so bad

So let's dance, the last dance
let's dance, the last dance
let's dance, this last dance tonight

Yeah, will you be my Mr. Right?
can you fill my appetite
I can't be sure
that you're the one for me
but all that I ask
is that you dance with me
dance with me, dance with me, yeah

Oh I need you, by me,
beside me, to guide me,
to hold me, to scold me,
'cause when I'm bad
I'm so, so bad

So let's dance, this last dance
let's dance, this last dance
let's dance, this last dance tonight

Oh I need you, by me,
to beside, to guide me,
to hold me, to scold me,
'cause when I'm bad
I'm so, so bad

So, come on baby, dance that dance
come on baby, dance that dance
come on baby, let's dance tonight...
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:39 PM
Response to Reply #132
171. Doesn't fit.
Doesn't rhyme.
The idea of it doesn't really even make sense to me.

If a "nasty" version was actually produced (which I doubt), it wasn't done cleverly, or subtly, or even in the fun/sneaky/evil:evilgrin: spirit that most of these versions are made.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #171
174. post 155. at the end of the song. doesnt fit, clear as bell, and because it doesnt fit
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 07:44 PM by seabeyond
it draws attention.

if this is the version they used, then wendys is wrong. they are making toys for 3-6 yr old. it is a huge corp. they should be responsible enough to make sure the toy is age appropriate. i mean, it isnt like there arent a few people working on this. unless, they have decided that our kids are so unindated with this crap, that it just doesnt matter any more.

BUT

i havent heard or seen that video in forever and was fun
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Control-Z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-09-10 05:19 PM
Response to Reply #174
226. I just listened.
I agree with you. Strange, huh?
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:34 PM
Response to Reply #52
155. This one.
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 06:35 PM by HuckleB
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:09 PM
Response to Reply #155
164. so so horny, lol, yup. i remember the video. i thought horny was in there, but not in words.
thanks.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:16 AM
Response to Reply #155
200. The power of suggestion. "Horny" isn't in the song.
Does sound somewhat close, though.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 07:57 AM
Response to Reply #200
206. Yes, it is.
It's got nothing to do with suggestion.
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greyl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 02:12 PM
Response to Reply #206
224. I guess we're at an impasse. Would you take Donna Summer's word for it?
Did you notice how the word HORNY was the only one in all caps at lyricsfreak? See all those ads?
Did you check the other lyrics web sites?
Have you EVER heard about this issue before?

Power of suggestion, mass delusion, etc...

But I'll wait to hear what Donna has to say. Probably end up on Entertainment Tonight, TMZ, or Inside Edition soon.
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Dappleganger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:44 AM
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53. Teach your child/teen how to THINK...keeping everything you find objectionable away from them
hardly helps in that endeavor. It may make you feel better as a parent if you never allow it into your home so you can remain 'clean' and 'pure', so if that is the case then more power to you. But if your kids has any friends they ARE going to watch what you may find objectionable. When you tell them NO they can't watch it then it becomes a game to them to see how quickly they can find it to watch (or download behind your back, hehe). Congratulations, you're just like a right-wing fundamentalist only you wear birkis, drive a Volvo and eat organic gochi berries. When your kid goes out into the world who is going to turn off the tv for little Nathaniel or tell him to stop being a sexist pig??

Teach your child to THINK.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:50 AM
Response to Reply #53
54. i am absolutely into teach kids to think. no way in hell to keep away at any age, for clean, pure
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 09:51 AM by seabeyond
just isn't gonna happen. no way, no time, no how.

it doesn't matter how diligent a parent is, ..... it is everywhere.

but i agree

the ultimate is, as we come across it, our children experience it, .... opportunity for discussion.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 10:22 AM
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63. So they are not shocked at the lead based paint on the toys, or the trans-fats and ldl cholesteral.....
...that they are shoving down their gaping maws at these fucked up fast food joints? Or that the toys were made by child slave labor in Indonesia and China? Made by children that are as young or younger than these whiny fucks who feel the need to protect their precious little spawn's virgin ears from something they they have decided was offensive to them?

I love America...chocked full of pinheads who get outraged at what the tee-vee tells them to be outraged about. No wonder Palin-Paul is a shoe-in in for the GOP ticket in 2012.
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 12:55 PM
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84. Now that's a Happy Meal!
:P
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:00 PM
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95. "Oh my god I have heard that song 500,000 times in my life and I have never heard that lyric ever,”
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 02:01 PM by TexasObserver
Yeah, no kidding. Maybe the lady should factor that into her hysteria. If she's heard the song a half million times (or even fewer) and didn't know the lyric was there, shouldn't that shed a little light on the situation?

Parenting may be a bigger job than she is capable of handling.
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:13 PM
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104. OMG THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!!! 11111ELEVENS!!!!!!!!11
:eyes:

I'm tired of puritans running this country.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:54 PM
Response to Reply #104
115. childs toy? i would think the obvious would be to think of the children. you oppose?
making product for the children, you oppose thinking about the children?

what sense does that make
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Lucian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:21 PM
Response to Reply #115
150. I'm sick of how we always have to think of the children.
"OMG! A strip joint in our neighborhood! Think of the children!!!1111"

Fuck children. I should start up SSCCATAGAPP:Singles, Seniors, Childless Couples And Teens And Gays Against Parasitic Parents
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:44 PM
Response to Reply #150
159. Oh No! Consenting Adult Sex! Think of the Children!
Come to think of it, that's generally how you get children in the first place.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:13 PM
Response to Reply #159
167. wait... what does that have to do with this thread and poster making comment about thinking about
the child, when selling a toy?????

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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:42 PM
Response to Reply #167
175. You honestly believe the kid is going to melt if they hear Donna Summer sing the word "horny"?
:shrug:
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:48 PM
Response to Reply #175
179. talk about hysteria. exaggeration. who said anything about melting. nt
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:55 PM
Response to Reply #179
181. This lady
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:57 PM
Response to Reply #181
182. one of my favorite scenes that i like to replay live for my kids, but
per you, wtf does that have to do with wendys, donna summers or kids melting, ....

btw, cause you cant see, now i am just grinnin
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:12 PM
Response to Reply #150
166. hm, again, child toy. fuckin think about the child, ya. nt
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TreasonousBastard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 02:57 PM
Response to Original message
116. I gotta get that kid's meal and see for myself. And then...
think about all this fear and loathing of sex is a large part of what is screwing up our kids.



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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 03:02 PM
Response to Original message
117. Watched the story, listened to the MP3-I didn't hear the lyric that way (Same as it ever was:
"Cause when I'm bad, I'm so, so bad").

I think three people, and Hissy Mom, were just looking for their 30 seconds of camera (one of the listeners didn't hear it either).
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:36 PM
Response to Reply #117
156. It's at the end.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG07rYStCjw

follow the lyrics here...

http://www.lyricsfreak.com/d/donna+summer/last+dance_20042294.html

Though, yes, this mom is just looking for her face on the TV.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:31 PM
Response to Reply #156
184. That's the full-length version. Easy mistake for them to make if whoever put it together
only knew the song from the radio edit.

Hardly an earth-shattering crisis.
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:34 PM
Response to Reply #184
186. "it is inappropriate and wendys should not have put it out" = earth shattering crisis? nt
Edited on Mon Jun-07-10 09:35 PM by seabeyond
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:36 PM
Response to Reply #186
187. It's inappropriate, Wendy's should not have put it out, EASY mistake.
Not an earth-shattering crisis. All of the above.
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HuckleB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 05:27 PM
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142. Sounds like another manufactured "crisis" to me.
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:32 PM
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153. Next thing you know, they'll be giving out CDs of Louis, Louis.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 06:45 PM
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160. Donna Summers >> this kid's mom
I say CPS should remove the child from this prude and reward custody to Donna Summers.
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roody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:27 PM
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169. Wendys food is inappropriate for children and other living things.
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Warren DeMontague Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 07:44 PM
Response to Original message
176. I think I heard that song at 5,000 Bar Mitvahs when I was growing up.
And, sadly, none of them ended with me getting laid.
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cwydro Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jun-07-10 09:40 PM
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188. Bwahahahaha!!!
love it!
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Withywindle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 12:00 AM
Response to Original message
199. This song was originally released in 1979
which makes all the "OMG POP CULTURE IS SO MUCH MORE INAPPROPRIATELY SEXUAL NOW THAN IT WAS IN MY DAY" flailers look...well, they ought to be embarrassed.

But I bet they won't. Because, apparently, once you give birth, you lose all memory of your own grade school, teens, and 20s.
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blondeatlast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:23 AM
Response to Reply #199
220. LOL! I had my son at 35 and I think I remembered more of my own childhood than
those who had theirs in their 20s.

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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 10:25 AM
Response to Reply #220
221. interesting theory.
i had my kids older too. i thought that was one of the advantages having kids young, you remember what it was like. but i can get what you are saying here. will have to think about that.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:32 AM
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210. I would be much more concerned that my kid was being exposed to disco. I'd have to
rush home and give him some Johnny Thunders or some Richard Hell, stat!
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-08-10 08:37 AM
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211. when the kids were little i would tell them, you can rebel with piercing and long hair...NO cowboy
music, boots or hats.

was a joke. but living in texas, not many found it funny

your thing with disco, reminded me about my thing with country western music
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