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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:30 PM
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Christian Newswire: Jamestown has "kowtowed to native Indian and black activists"!!!111
Edited on Tue May-08-07 05:14 PM by Bluebear
Minority Activists Hold Sway in Banning 'Celebration' at Jamestown's 400th Anniversary -- Christian Leader Calls upon President to Set the Record Straight

Contact: Wesley Strackbein, (210) 340-5250, ext. 222

JAMESTOWN, Virginia, May 8 /Christian Newswire/ -- This week, as our nation prepares to remember its founding at Jamestown four hundred years ago as part of America's Anniversary Weekend, officials heading up the event have banned the word "celebration," caving to minority interests who have characterized the English settlement in the New World as an "invasion" that led to a "holocaust." Doug Phillips, who is hosting an alternative event -- dubbed the Jamestown Quadricentennial: A Celebration of America's Providential History -- is calling upon Americans to reject this modern revisionism and instead celebrate America's 400th birthday.

"From 1807 to 1957 -- at each of our past Jamestown Centennials -- Americans have celebrated the goodness of God in the founding of our nation in 1607, and our heads of State -- including Presidents John Tyler and Theodore Roosevelt -- have set the tone for this," observed Phillips, President of Vision Forum Ministries.

"This year, by contrast, officials with the Jamestown 2007 Committee have kowtowed to Native Indian and Black activists by banning the word 'celebration' in conjunction with America's Anniversary events.

"This politically correct agenda based on 'oral tradition' and shoddy scholarship is one that all God-fearing Americans should reject," continued Phillips. "And President Bush, following the path of John Tyler and TR, has an opportunity to help set the record straight when he addresses our nation from Jamestown on May 13 by acknowledging Jamestown's Christian heritage and calling upon Americans to celebrate it."

Over the last week, leading Indian activists such as Ken Adams, chief of the Upper Mattaponi tribe, have characterized Jamestown as an "atrocity" and a "painful symbol." And other politically correct advocates such as author Dr. Linwood "Little Bear" Custalow and Virginia state representative Donald McEachin have called upon the heads of state from Great Britain and the U.S. to "express regret" and "apologize" for the legacy of Jamestown.

"America stands at a crossroads as a nation. We can choose either to dishonor and repudiate our nation's Christian past or we can embrace and celebrate it," remarked Phillips. "We recognize that history involves bumps and bruises, and the Jamestown Settlement was certainly a story of imperfect men. Yet the notions being propounded that Captain John Smith was a thug and Princess Pocahontas was forcibly converted to Christianity and eventually poisoned to death are sheer myths concocted to further a leftist agenda.

"Despite real blemishes, God used the settlement at Jamestown to lay the foundations of a Christian people, and this is something that our president and fellow Americans should actively celebrate," Phillips emphasized.

For those who desire to celebrate America's founding in the grand tradition of past Jamestown Centennials, Vision Forum Ministries is hosting an alternative Jamestown event in Virginia's historic triangle on June 11-16. Dubbed the Jamestown Quadricentennial: A Celebration of America's Providential History, this week-long celebration will include orations by some of America's leading Christian historians and teachers, Faith and Freedom history tours, dramatic reenactments, fife and drum music, boat and balloon rides, a memorial dedication, and a grand celebration finale to be held on the grounds of Fort Pocahontas.

http://www.earnedmedia.org/vfm0508.htm
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Bluerthanblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:31 PM
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1. tittle/ nt
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shain from kane Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:36 PM
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2. characterized the English settlement in the New World as an "invasion" that led to a "holocaust."
...characterized the USA occupation in the Middle East as an "invasion" that led to a "civil war.


The more things change, the more they stay the same.
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tubbacheez Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:38 PM
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3. Cool. Maybe Jamestown will get a feng-shui makeover next. n/t
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BOSSHOG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:38 PM
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4. The incredible and intense persecution
today's christian conservatives must bear is, well, just fucking unbearable. Can I get an Amen? And those evil Indians, how dare they?

"Christians" in America suck. They do not deserve their citizenship. If they want to live in a theocracy they should fucking move to Iran. I'll hold the border open for them.

This is not a christian nation it is a free nation. THANK GOD!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:38 PM
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5. You said it! nt
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:23 PM
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30. Right On Bosshog!...n/t
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JuniperLea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:26 PM
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32. Amen!
Funny how they forget the part about all that Christian crap not working out so well... hence the Constitution and all that business about a separation of church and state... and all the early US leaders who spoke out against church rule in the country's business.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:39 PM
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6. Why bold the word Indian?
It's perfectly legit.
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:42 PM
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7. I mean that's where we are outsourcing our technology jobs
to India.

To be performed by Indians.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:48 PM
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13. I agree that "Native Indian" is a bit of a confusing wording,
as that would imply someone native to India. But that's more of a gaffe than a racist, offensive statement.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:50 PM
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16. Yes, Christian conservatives only make "gaffes", not racist statements. tn
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:01 PM
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19. How was it racist?
He blended two perfectly-acceptable terms: American Indian and Native American. Sounds to me like he was trying to be formal and PC, and botched it a bit.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:43 PM
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8. Because it's not technically a correct description.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:47 PM
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11. Yes, it is.
American Indian (often shortened to Amerindian or just Indian) is a common, acceptable term, according to both scholars and a great number of American Indian tribes.
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Starbucks Anarchist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:03 PM
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20. But the original use of the term was incorrect.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:09 PM
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22. True.
And America wasn't discovered by Amerigo Vespucci, and Britain is no longer inhabited by Picts.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:11 PM
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23. Have we gotten far enough afield of the OP content now?
Edited on Tue May-08-07 05:14 PM by Bluebear
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:14 PM
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24. Not quite yet.
You follow cricket? ;)
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:14 PM
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25. I edited out all the offending highlights for you!
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:15 PM
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26. ...
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:48 PM
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14. I suppose we can be glad they didn't say "savages" nt
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:33 PM
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27. i honestly expected them to be called
'godless heathens' in the press release....
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:43 PM
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9. Certainly, one wouldn't want to use "Native Americans" or even "American Indians"
Edited on Tue May-08-07 04:44 PM by Bluebear
Too "PC" I suppose.
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:45 PM
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10. Here in Minnesota, our Indians prefer to be called such.
American Indian is a common and acceptable term.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:47 PM
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12. Superb. Is that all you wanted to comment about re: this article?
Edited on Tue May-08-07 04:48 PM by Bluebear
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:50 PM
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15. What's left to say?
The guy is like 99% wrong, and the OP is like 99% right. The guy is so off-base it's not particularly interesting. I'd rather discuss something we disagree on--that is, whether the word "Indian" is offensive--than something we agree on.
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:51 PM
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17. See above re: the "gaffe" comment
Why is it Christian conservatives only make "gaffes", and not racist, offensive statements? They always "misspeak" or are taken "out of context".
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Kelly Rupert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:03 PM
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21. Well, not always.
Some things are patently offensive, others are verbal errors. Calling a bunch of college students "nappy-headed hos" is clearly racist and offensive. Saying "Native Indians" indicates ignorance--he obviously doesn't often use the terms--but I don't think that's offensive.
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petersjo02 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:32 PM
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33. Yes to Native American and American Indian
I used to work on the Foreign Service Entrance Exam before I retired. Several questions related to the topic of Native Americans. We had experts who reviewed each exam for potential offensive terminology, one of whom was a Native American. As I recall both terms were acceptable to her. I believe we settled on American Indian for the simple reason that Native American could be construed to refer to any of us from whatever heritage who have actually been born in the U.S. American Indian seemed to be most factually descriptive term for the population actually referred to in questions.
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Cha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 04:58 PM
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18. Guys like this..
hypocrite Wesley Strackbein, (210) 340-5250, ext. 222 give Christians a bad rap.

I know they're not all like this and calling bush a "Christian" is like calling hitler "Christian"..it ain't happening.

What good is it if a man says he has faith if his action don't prove it?
I rest my fooking case.

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piedmont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 05:43 PM
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28. To apologize for the legacy of Jamestown is to apologize for the existence of the U.S.
I acknowledge that this should be handled with sensitivity, and the author of the article is an out-right loon, but I think broadly apologizing for the legacy of Jamestown is too much.
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pretzel4gore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:20 PM
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29. after global warming devastates the planet
maybe THEN the question, or suggestion, can be made that the very idea of laying claim to a country, demolishing its human component by any means fair or foul, and building up a 'nation' on the property another people had once called home (also using slave labour where that was practicle etc)...maybe after global warming destroys whatever dreams we have then we can wonder what it might have been like had colonialization never happened, or only happened via agreement with the native peoples encountered, not just in america but globally...wasn't one of the main commandments of christianity, which by 1492 etc was the religion of the colonial powers, wasn't one of the commandments 'thou shalt not steal'?
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Madspirit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-08-07 06:26 PM
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31. k&r Bluebear...and haha...Dweeb-assed Racists...n/t
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