Watch BP cam ... Thread #13

[jaxx]

#12 http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8472498

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ABC Video Stream: http://abcnews.go.com/video/video?id=6105570

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ps...if these don't work go to #12 and they will....I copied. LOL

pss....ok I fixed the links I think. ;-)

[jaxx]

1. Ok now fill me in.

Jaws cut the riser pipe and it's off the BOP now?

What did it look like, what happened when it was cut?

Oh yeah, and good morning to all.

[SidDithers]

2. Now I wanna see the level bubble...

see if trimming the riser has brought the BOP back to straight.

Sid

[lamp_shade]

3. Present.

[lamp_shade]

5. Current TheOilDrum node 6551 > >

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6551

[NYC_SKP]

4. Wowsome! K&R!

:bounce:

[Junkdrawer]

6. And now for the easy part: Lowering an upside-down cup an a string over the gusher....

No problem....

[SidDithers]

7. Here's what's left after the cut...

Sid

[NYC_SKP]

8. And this other nice shot you posted of the cut end of riser with drill pipe visible.

Nice save!

[SidDithers]

10. Thanks :)

Hugh and I both think that's the cut that was made yesterday to shorten the riser, not the end that was cut at the connection to the BOP. There's no bend in the pipe.

Sid

[NYC_SKP]

13. Oh that makes great sense, should have seen that myself.

Thought you might have snagged it just this morning, but makes total sense.

Still quite informative as to the scale and configuration, especially with respect to the drill pipe.

:thumbsup:

[HughMoran]

17. See my shots below - you can see side-by-side how the ends look differently

:D

[jaxx]

12. Wow I hope they saved the riser.

Somebody on here multiple threads ago said it should go into the Smithsonian.

[HughMoran]

25. They carried it off into the sunset

I wonder if they are going to bring it to the surface or drop it?

[jaxx]

26. They should save it, it's history.

We will all learn from this experience and get much better with our environment.

[jaxx]

9. Awesome.

It looks better than I thought it would. A chimney belching oil. Now when will they put the top on it?

I have another feed up and it looks like it's been evened out more...did Jaws bite it twice? Or maybe I just can't tell.

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/incident_response/STAGING/local_assets/html/OceanInterventionROV2.html

[HughMoran]

19. Nice shot!

You beat me to it - good job ;)

[jaxx]

22. Are there still 2 places gushing the oil?

The riser and where they cut it from the floor piece the first time Jaws cut?

[SidDithers]

27. No, I think they're dealing with one gusher only, now...

the riser is gone, there's only one outlet for oil, at the top of the BOP.

Sid

[jaxx]

30. Ok thanks.

[tridim]

11. Morning nerds, just woke up to see the clean cut. Finally!

Karma to the engineers.

[HughMoran]

14. Several more pictures of cut riser and cut BOP

Riser cut - BOP end and far end respectively

Below - several shots of the cut BOP and new plume.

[jaxx]

15. I keep saying WoW......WoW

Dammit nobody ought to have to work when this is going on. ;-)

[SidDithers]

16. Good screencaps...

but this is still my favourite :)



Sid

[HughMoran]

18. Step away from the computer

:rofl:

[jaxx]

20. Hey I like that one too.

These pieces of steel have taken on personalities. Now poor Mr. Riser has lost his head.

[DoBotherMe]

21. I love DU

always with the humor and optimism. I'm thanking you all again for these great threads. :toast: Dana ; )

[jaxx]

23. Glad you are with us.

[global1]

24. All Smiles......nt

[Subdivisions]

28. LOL! n/t

[bdamomma]

86. is it smiling at us???

[HughMoran]

29. I'd have designed the Top Cap with locks that swung under the flange and could be tightened down

...like you see on high-pressure containers with removable lids. With a good sealing material and enough pressure, they ought to be able to seal to that flange really tightly.

Here's the type of clamp I'm talking about - they could swing under the flange and the ROVs could tighten the wingnuts:

[jaxx]

31. Cap in next couple of hours......

BP successfully sliced off the riser pipe that is leaking oil into the Gulf of Mexico, Coast Guard Adm. Thad W. Allen, the federal incident commander, said on Thursday. But the cut is irregular, and placing a cap over the gushing oil well will be more challenging than initially hoped, he said.

Admiral Allen said during a briefing Thursday morning in Metairie, La., that the cap was over the gusher and that workers expected to lower it into place in the next couple of hours.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/06/04/us/04spill.html?hp

[wtmusic]

37. The cut is so irregular

I don't know how they can expect to get any kind of seal. Saddle that sumnobitch.

[HughMoran]

39. The cap I'm talking about goes around the flange, not the pipe

Just so I'm clear.

They have two caps, we want the one that goes around the flange - the cut oddness should be irrelevant!

[wtmusic]

40. Ah, I get it now.

Sounds good to me. :thumbsup:

[flamingdem]

83. cool idea nt

[NYC_SKP]

32. The Development if Solid Methane Hydrates may be the Issue that Gives us Grief.

They'd better have solutions in mind for that, because I'm getting pretty sick of failed contingency plans.

:nuke:

[bear425]

33. Wow the plume looks really huge now.

Are they planning to place the cap soon, do you think?

edit: nevermind. I see what jaxx posted upthread that the cap in coming in the next couple hours.

[HughMoran]

34. Methanol injection

that's what I heard.

[jaxx]

35. Why are they doing that?

What will it cause or fix?

[NYC_SKP]

36. Liquid form methanol will, almost like a solvent, prevent formation of crystals, like antifreeze.

:hi:

[jaxx]

38. All right!

I gotta say, these people are really thinking this out. One step at a time...and the long run in place. I know it may fail, but it won't be for not trying.

[Statistical]

57. Methanol has very low freezing point.

-149 deg Fahrenheit.

So even methanol diluted into oil should substantially lower freezing point of the solution.

Kinda same concept of salt on roads. The salt lowers freezing point of water thus preventing freezing.

[SidDithers]

41. I think they're using a circular saw to trim the cut edge now...nt

Sid

[jaxx]

42. What link?

I'm not finding it.

[SidDithers]

43. The Skandi ROV...

http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:45685.asx?bkup=49182

Was showing a close-up of the ROV working below it, and it was using the circular saw to trim the edges of the cut above the BOP. Didn't get a cap, unfortunately, and now it's on a long shot.

Edit: one of the other ROV's has moved in closer. Got this:


Sid

[jaxx]

44. Ok I got it thanks.

[jaxx]

45. This is showing the saw cutting on the riser top to even it out.

http://www.livestream.com/wkrg_oil_spill

[wtmusic]

47. Ruh roh.

Looks like something just crashed and burned. :scared:

[HughMoran]

49. Saw dropped

4th time I've seen that. ...or it could have been the oil sucked into the view when the blade is running.

[HughMoran]

46. Yes they are

[jaxx]

48. Oh nooooo did they drop the saw?

[HughMoran]

50. yeah, they just need to grab & wiggle - it should break off

looks almost cut through IMO

[wtmusic]

51. Damn, a good kick with a boot heel would take care of that pronto. nt

[HughMoran]

52. They tried to grab it and it wouldn't budge - more sawing now

they'll get that little piece hanging off.

[jaxx]

53. Any chance of the saw ingniting the oil?

Inquiring minds want to know.......

[sweettater]

54. Underwater?

:shrug:

[jaxx]

56. LOL well it makes a lot of dust.

[HughMoran]

60. oil sucked into the blade when spinning

[Statistical]

58. Ignition requires presence of free oxygen. n/t

[HughMoran]

59. Besides the extremely cold water, there is no oxygen down there

So no.

[jaxx]

Ok thanks all, I just wondered.

Science was not my strong suit. :blush:

[flamingdem]

55. Wow. It's chopped! Missed the action.

On to the LMRP!

[Morning Dew]

61. me too... just getting up

[Control-Z]

77. Glad to know I'm not the only one

late to the game. I've been waking up for a few hours now, but have just gotten to the point where my contacts are finally adjusted to reasonably clear sight, and have on my near vision glasses to correct for close up viewing, and I am actually able to read. Damn, it's hell getting old.

[gateley]

63. Me, too. I'm going to buy some No-Doz! nt

[jaxx]

67. I have to go to bed soon. Ugh.

I hate missing the action.

[flamingdem]

68. Guess you saw the chopping, was it done by the claw? nt

[flamingdem]

70. I mean the craw as opposed to the wire saw nt

[jaxx]

71. No I wasn't here for that.

I would have loved to see it happen. In the posts above they have some pics of it after the chop.

[gateley]

74. There will be a good recap here, as you well know. I've found it invaluable this morning.

And that won't be the end of the action (unfortunately), we're going to be on this for a long time.

[jaxx]

75. Yeah I always come in and read through to see what I've missed.

And people are great about putting up the pics!!

[gateley]

62. Aarrghhhh! I'll never sleep again! Should have known those BP guys were

moving forward. Good for them! And I'm thrilled so many of you were able to witness! I'm really getting excited now! :hi:

[jaxx]

65. link here, the other one went dead

http://mfile.akamai.com/97892/live/reflector:44838.asx?bkup=45135

[gateley]

66. cnn.com has this shot and another view as well. Hi! nt

[jaxx]

Hi.

Wondered where you were this morning.

[gateley]

76. When I woke up Thom Hartmann had a Marine Biologist on and I was listening

to her. I don't even want to talk about it. :grr: Suffice it to say BP continues their evil ways.

[jaxx]

78. Read this, BP involved too......deepest well yet and in the Gulf

http://www.rovworld.com/article4278.html

[Subdivisions]

69. I missed the cut too, gateley. Was sleeping. But I'm glad they've made

some progress toward getting the cap in place.

[gateley]

73. They've accomplished a lot! We're nearing the next step. I'm not leaving my

laptop!

[Canuckistanian]

64. Clean your windshield, sir?

Check your tires? How's your oil?

That was bizarre. I open the webpage and the ROV is on board and there's a guy cleaning the camera housing.

[HughMoran]

72. Nice closeup of sawing action

[Lochloosa]

79. Nice shot.

[gateley]

80. It amazes me how clear so many of the shots are. nt

[gateley]

81. I'm going to go work on #14 and include the links that lamp_shade and Lochloosa

provided. I'll be back to post link. Holler if something exciting happens. :7

[jaxx]

82. Good idea.

This one has filled up fast.

[lamp_shade]

84. Current OILDRUM node is #6554.

[gateley]

85. Thanks! I just ran into a prob so have to begin again -- patience.

[bdamomma]

87. watching on CNN what is happening stuff is still coming out.

and a BP news conference will be on shortly, more BS they will be spewing.

what are trying to do, looks like they are sawing again. they are showing this why don't they show how many marine and bird life has died already.

[gateley]

88. Jeez, gateley, what took ya? THREAD # 14:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=389&topic_id=8477765&mesg_id=8477765