U.S. continues to back offshore drilling

[Mari333]

More than half of U.S. adults support increased offshore drilling despite of the disastrous spill in the Gulf of Mexico, a poll released Tuesday said.

Among the 1,012 people surveyed by Angus Reid Public Opinion, 57 percent support offshore drilling and 55 percent would like more drilling. About one-third, 33 percent, oppose all underwater drilling and 35 percent do not want the amount of offshore drilling increased.

Two-thirds, 66 percent, say the United States must exploit offshore oil deposits to reduce dependence on imported oil and gas.













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ugh.

[joeybee12]

1. Well, if the media doesn't report on the true damage, when politicians

still lie and say offshore drilling will bring down prices, what else would you expect?

[NJmaverick]

2. This is quite expected, Americans need to feed their addiction

this addiction was decades in the making and it will take some time to break it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

3. There are reasons for this

1.- Tell me ONE product you used today that was not touched by the Oily stuff. The American people cannot handle this little factoid... nor are they willing to make painful choices or change life styles. We are talking of children.

2.- The Elites KNOW that they cannot change a thing right now, so like it or not deep sea drilling will continue... until one of two things happens... we either find a way OFF our dependence on oil... good luck by the way... or the global civilization built on it collapses.

Personally I expect that collapse, the changes necessary will not come... nor do people understand just how extensive they are.

Oh I expect this collapse to happen in my lifetime and that includes a population collapse of impressive numbers... but that's just me.

[CountAllVotes]

4. cannot stop drilling for oil

until the wars without end are stopped. Do you realize that 80% of the oil being used by the USA is for their god damned wars, not by citizens?

U.S. OUT OF IRAQ, AFGHANISTAN AND EVERYWHERE ELSE IN THE WORLD WHERE THEY DO NOT BELONG!

:dem:

[nadinbrzezinski]

5. Wrong, it is used to feed you

and me, and quite a bit of the world's population. People just don't realize how dependent modern agriculture is on the stuff...

The military is somewhere in the top five, but not the top user.

I hate to point this out... but if we stopped using oil tomorrow, billions will starve within a year... as in starve to death.

Wait, it has a name... carrying capacity... we superseded this a while ago.

[CountAllVotes]

6. wrong

in the USA the #1 user is the U.S. military sadly. :(

[nadinbrzezinski]

7. Whatever let's try

stop all use NOW...

[CountAllVotes]

8. we need to try but ...

it is sort of like closing the barn door after the horse has run away. :(

[blindpig]

9. The only 'carry capacity' that has been passed is that of

Capitalism. An economy not based upon consumption and growth of capital would make a much better go of it.

[nadinbrzezinski]

10. You serious, you actually believe

that this planet could carry oh seven billion people WITHOUT the green revolution...

I know some people hate a system that they don't even understand (it ain't capitalism by the way), to the point that this capacity to understand biology, as in basic biology, really escapes them. Granted, nobody has connected the economy and ecology since the 1850s, but you are serious...

WOW!!!!

[blindpig]

11. The 'green revolution' was a red herring..

it increased productivity over the short term but left 3rd World farmers poorer than they were, requiring corporate seed stock, petrochemical fertilizers and irrigation. It gets worse and worse as the price of oil rises and water availability becomes an issue.

What you conceive of as Capitalism is an idealized academic fantasy, or perhaps a snapshot of Capitalism at a certain phase, say the 1830's-1840's, when there was a lot of 'small capital' around to counter weight the big boys. But Capital tends towards accumulation and small fish tend to be eaten. Monopoly makes for more efficient accumulation and thus becomes the rule until efficiency begets overproduction, then new venues for the surplus capital must be found, and here we are. It is a historical process, evolution, might move at different speeds for different sectors, but the trajectory is inevitable.

I think I understand biology a lot better than you understand history. Though I have no exalted degrees biology has been my passion for 40 years, I was in Hopkins Plaza for the first Earth Day and have belonged to every enviro org at one time or the other that you can imagine. And after all of that I have come to the conclusion that the Environmental Movement is pretty much useless when it comes to the stated purposes of preserving biodiversity, wildness, habitats, of leaving posterity intact. Because all of the bandaids applied do little to stop the destruction of the global expansion of capitalism and that, much much more than the poor people is what is destroying the biosphere. Of course population growth cannot continue ad infinitum, and the only way to address that with respect for humanity is to provide a decent life for all, then the replacement rate will fall. Otherwise who choses, who decides? That is where racism, classism, and yes, fascism will assert themselves.

Of course Marx did connect economy and ecology, his writings on soil metabolism, the metabolism of town and country, was a big indicator to me of the depth and expanse of his thought and recommended further understanding of his work. This massively wasteful economy of commodity production must be replaced by rational production in the service of human need or our civilization and biodiversity are toast.

Yes, I am damned and deadly serious.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

12. An acorn.

:thumbsup:

[blindpig]

14. Snort! n/t

[nadinbrzezinski]

15. LOL... now that was funny

You really think we have not superseded the carrying capacity of the planet...

Okie dokie.



By the way, what MARX was critical off was precisely what you think I think Capitalism was... idealized or not. OUR CURRENT ECONOMY is not CAPITALISM... no matter how many ways you want to or try to slice it.

Alas I KNOW that without some of these chemicals, we use on the land, production will drop... by necessity... as well as all that mechanical devices. Yes dear, we will be back to 19th century levels of production...

Enjoy your fantasy.

[cwydro]

13. FANfuckingTASTIC

Woohoo!

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