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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:38 PM
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{1} Water Thanks



The drop of water
hangs from the faucet
pulsing, the heart
of the well still beating

I never drink water
Harold Elm told me
even from the sink
without saying
a prayer of thanks

the drop of water
trembles, holding
the face of all the worlds.
--Joseph Bruchac

Yesterday, my younger daughter and her friend assisted me in moving two turtles off of local highways. In the photo above, she is pictured with the first, a medium-sized snapping turtle, which did not respond with absolute delight to our attempts to get it across and off the road, as more than a dozen vehicles sped by. The second one, a wood turtle, was far more friendly.

My daughters and their friends who are staying here for the long weekend spent most of the day and evening at a local festival that features the world's longest canoe race. The event is named after one of the Revolutionary War generals who participated in the Clinton-Sullivan Campaign, which sought to destroy the Iroquois Confederacy. When I was a small boy, a neighborhood Elder told me about how the soldiers went through the gardens here, where women had hidden infants, and made a sport of running bayonets through them, holding them up to see how long they would wiggle. Ten years ago, I found that a Pennsylvania historical society had journals documenting this.

These may not be the best examples, but to me they seem to symbolize two very different mind-sets, similar to or representative of the extreme differences in values that separate groups of Americans today. This is what I think, after watching more news about the oil “spill” and hearing the rantings of the Tea Party from the radical right-wing of the republican party. I'm glad to be able to go out to the pond and think about these things. There, I can remember more of the lessons that I learned many years ago from Chief Paul Waterman. Today, I want to share some with you.

{2}Live Now



“Live. Don't be afraid to live. We can get through this time.

“I did reburials at the Penn Site. Germ warfare killed them. At the Bloody Hill Site, it was small pox. Some of the burials were of parents and their children. They were holding hands. This seems to happen when germ warfare kills families.

“But we are here today. It's our turn to live now. And if you are reading this, it's your turn as well. Make the most of it. Enjoy your family.”

--Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman; March, 2002.

In ancient times – the days of human kind's ancestors' ancestors – there was a young man, perhaps in his late teens, who was known as Sapling. My impression is that he lived about 2,000 bc, in an era that the archeologists call the “late archaic” in the northeast. It was the time when what archeologists call the Brewerton and Lamoka cultures were here. They would eventually become what we know as the Iroquois and Algonquin peoples. I think that the first clan, the Turtle Clan, came about from Sapling's lessons about the thirteen moons on a turtle's back. These moons, or lunar months, mark the seasons and associated festivals.

In the ancient festival ceremonies, two important things take place. First, one is thankful for what there is, even down to those drops of clean water. Second, rather than the western concept of mankind being in charge of all life on earth, one appreciates that all of the natural world is our university. We should recognize our part in the larger network of life, and learn from rocks, water, soil, plants, and animals.

When groups of people exercise these types of things, society has the potential to prosper as part of a healthy environment. When groups of people are unable to, because their minds are sick from fear and greed, society breaks down and produces individuals who would wear tea bags on their hats, and participate in modern Clinton-Sullivan campaigns, which result in Cheney-type policies that destroy the living environment.


{3} Current Events



“It is from numberless diverse acts of courage and belief that human history is shaped. Each time a man stands up for an ideal, or acts to improve the lot of others, or strikes out against injustice, he sends forth a tiny ripple of hope; and crossing each other from a million different centers of energy and daring, those ripples build a current which can sweep down the mightiest walls of oppression and resistance.”
--Senator Robert F. Kennedy

One of the things that I like about the Democratic Underground is the variety of thought that can be found here. Now, of course, there are days and weeks when it can get a bit hectic here, and there have been a few periods that weren't exactly pleasant. But it tends to cycle.

Right about now might be a good time for liberals and progressives to cycle back into a higher gear in terms of social-political activity. Watch a little less television, and invest more time in more meaningful activity. There are numberless options, as many as there are participants on this forum. My own focus at this time will be working with local/regional environmental groups. While I recognize the value of many of the very large environmental organizations, I favor efforts to form a coalition – or confederacy, if you will – of grass roots level groups.

It's time to renew our efforts.

Thanks,
H2O Man
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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:44 PM
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1. Thank you and as usual I learn so much when I read your posts
:hug: Snapping turtles don't like being told what to do :-).
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:10 PM
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7. My daughter was able
to feel the power of the turtle, when it would snap at the pole we used to move it. (I keep a couple of old ski poles in the back of my vehicle, which come in handy if I stop at a plowed field to look for artifacts.)

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livetohike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 10:39 AM
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19. I've seen them many times in the water while canoeing
Those jaws are awesome :scared:.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 12:52 PM
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2. You're one of D.U.'s treasures.
Thanks for the thread, Waterman.:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:11 PM
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8. Thanks.
I enjoy being on the same team -- or being in the same clan -- as a good core group of DUers, yourself included.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 01:15 PM
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3. beautifully said.
i rescued a little box turtle from the road last year. it peed on my son. lol
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:13 PM
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9. There is something
almost cute about tiny turtles .... strange looking creatures, with prehistoric features, for sure, but still cute. I've had quite a few pee on me, too.

Thank you for rescueing the box turtle!
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SalviaBlue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 01:23 PM
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4. Thank you for your interesting and calming post.
I have found myself thanking the water lately. And being thankful for the water.

The gulf situation is terrifying to me. The magnitude of what we have done to the water and all that depends on it is horrifying. I think about a disaster like that happening in my region and can't imagine how devastating it would be.

Living in the San Joaquin Valley of CA, water is always an issue. This area would be a desert if we didn't harness all of the water coming out of the mountains. But instead we are one of the highest producing agricultural areas in the world. There is a constant battle for every drop... do the farmers get it or do the fish get it. Apparently we can't share.

I went up into my mountains, the Sierra Nevada, yesterday and there is snow everywhere and its so lush in contrast to recent past years when it has been so dry. We have so many beautiful clean lakes and rivers. I feel like this year will be a "good" water year here and I will try to "live now" and enjoy it.

But I know that even though my water
is relatively healthy right now it

"... trembles, holding
the face of all the worlds."
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:21 PM
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11. Joseph Bruchac
is one of my favorite poets. He has an amazing ability to communicate. A number of the books that he has worked on are aimed at children & youth, which makes me appreciate his efforts all the more. Some of the best are done with John Kahiones Fadden; John's father, Ray, grew up in the woods just a short distance from me, and I am always impressed that John carries Ray's lessons on, and also produces beautiful artwork.

I remember that last summer, I posted a few essays about water. A number of us -- including you and other DUers -- understand what is coming: a time when clean water will be recognized as the most prized and valued asset on earth. I remember discussing this issue with Chief Waterman frequently.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 01:38 PM
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5. "the drop of water trembles, holding the face of all the worlds."
Recommended
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:25 PM
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12. Thank you.
I have a lot of work to concentrate on this summer, attempting to coordinate grass roots environmental groups on some pressing interests. In some instances, I think that Onondaga will be working closely with non-Indian, earth-aware groups. I am confident that a number of friends on DU will be willing to take part. I appreciate the support for OPs/threads such as this, which are my way of organizing a few scattered thoughts, and attempts to lay a foundation.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 01:54 PM
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6. K&R
:thumbsup:
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:25 PM
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13. Thanks!
(Boston in six.)
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:26 PM
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15. From your keyboard to God's ears!
:)
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:20 PM
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10. k&r
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 03:26 PM
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14. Thank you.
Much appreciated!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 05:49 PM
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16. ty too
didnt know about these particular events
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Beringia Donating Member (193 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:17 PM
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17. Thanks for sharing
You have a lot of wisdom and I appreciate that what you share is like from a well-worn book, thought over many times. I walked past a very very big snapping turtle once, and kept a stick at the ready.














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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:03 PM
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33. Thanks.
I'm glad to see that this OP/thread is still going!
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun May-30-10 08:44 PM
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18. Another great post from you. And, yes...
I've dodged cars to help turtles cross the road. Even the snappers.

Keep the faith,
Hilts
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:04 PM
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34. Well, thank you!
Much appreciated!

I'm spending this afternoon with my sons, helping them with their book. It's nice to take a minute for DU, and see this thread is still kicking!
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:29 AM
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20. yes, we need a new commitment
Edited on Mon May-31-10 11:31 AM by G_j
we need an environmental revolution
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:07 PM
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36. I agree 100%.
I think that environmental issues provide a common ground for most people, except for the most greedy and ill among us.
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woofless Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 11:52 AM
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21. Thank you Brother.
Peace.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:05 PM
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35. And thank you!
Peace.
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puebloknot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 12:41 PM
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22. K&R Wonderful! And who is that darling little girl with the doll? nt
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 05:20 PM
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25. That is one
of the Edwards sisters from Oneida.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 01:10 PM
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23. “Live. Don't be afraid to live. We can get through this time..."
I found that I took a deep breath when I read that line and it made me wonder how long I had been holding my breath, afraid to live.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 12:09 PM
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37. I find myself
thinking about the things that he taught me frequently these past few weeks.
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xxqqqzme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 04:36 PM
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24. ...“Live. Don't be afraid to live.
We can get through this time."

We will.

It's time to renew our efforts.

Yes, it is.

The regional and local beckon. This year my local expanded to my region. There have been too many thoughtless cuts from Sacramento to my region. I attempt to win a state assembly position to expand the efforts and help heal the damage made by the cuts.

Thank you.
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BlancheSplanchnik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon May-31-10 06:06 PM
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26. I've pulled over many times to help.
One time, a snapper was hangin out in the middle of a road out here in the boondocks. Still, it's a fairly well traveled one.

I didn't have much to push with...the snow scraper wasn't working too well.

I remember finally dragging him, but I can't remember how I did it....was it something that I got him to chomp on and dragged him that way, or did I put out a shirt, push him onto it and then grab the longest end and drag? Dammit I can't remember...but I remember cars going by staring at me! :P

Yesterday, a tiny hummingbird flew into the house. I couldn't figure out how to get her back out...she was up in the rafters and my longest vacuum cleaner pipes couldn't reach her. Then she suddenly kind of plummeted to the floor and squeaked. I was so worried, yet glad I could reach her now. I picked her up and she squeaked again -- nothing like a tiny hummingbird squeak to break your heart. I brought her outside and set her on the hummingbird feeder where she leaned and rested. I chanted, sending her energy. I brought it into the sun, so she could have the warmth on her back. Then I was impatient and held her, tried to get her to sip some sugar water. She flew up and off to the tree that I see the hummers go to a lot. so I hope that means she'll be OK!

H20 Man, thank you...this reminder to live humanely now (to animals and people in our immediate environment) seems the most immediate thing.

Sure, most of us will revert to bickering and freaking out (had to give myself a caveat here), but as long as we can remind each other to come back from that and focus on what's important around us now, we may be able to dig where we're planted. Or is that, plant where we dig?
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:08 AM
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30. I'm so happy you were able to rescue the hummingbird, Blanche.
Thank you for sharing that story. It feels like exactly what I needed to read right now, along with H2OMan's post.
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 12:18 PM
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27. precious, precious, precious words
not the first time you've moved me.

Thanks, Paul

mitakuye oyasin
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 02:02 PM
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28. Thanks for posting. Sometimes I think we can change. This is one of them. nt
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FedUpWithIt All Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jun-01-10 02:20 PM
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29. Well said Sir,
:hug:

Reject injustice, embrace compassion, live joyously, be prepared, give with the heart, seek balance, respect, learn and grow.

:D
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Raksha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:13 AM
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31. Beautiful post...as usual your words have such a calming and focusing effect.
Thank you for reminding me of what's important.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jun-02-10 11:18 AM
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32. Powerful message. Thanks.
My sons would like this post because both of them have decided to enter the environmental field of study to try and make a difference.
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byronius Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-03-10 02:11 AM
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38. Thank you for this.
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