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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:03 PM Original message |
Atheist fired for self-identifying on internet message boards |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
1. There's a free for all already in progress, if you're interested in wading in |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:13 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. Wow! I had no idea there were so many bigots here! |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Bigots? |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #3 |
4. I hardly think we should use what the Republicans would do as an example to follow |
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harkadog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:12 PM Response to Reply #4 |
68. What would happen to Tim Kaine of the DNC |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:32 PM Response to Reply #68 |
157. No one would be surprised. (NT) |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
123. You brought up the example of someone being fired for supporting Obama |
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JackRiddler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:57 PM Response to Reply #3 |
89. She's a math teacher. |
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #3 |
135. Yes. Bigots. |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:36 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Who's a bigot? It's a private Catholic school. Like it or not - |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. So a private business should be allowed to discriminate? |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:50 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Private businesses are allowed to discriminate |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:53 PM Response to Reply #7 |
9. She didn't mention it at work |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:56 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. It doesn't matter that she didn't mention it at work |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 09:56 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Again, would you say the same thing if she was Jewish? |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:00 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. Yes, it would be legal for a Catholic school to not hire a Jewish person |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:01 PM Response to Reply #12 |
14. she pretended to pray. she pretended to participate in the christian and catholic rites. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:08 PM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Exactly. Had it not been for exercising her first amendment rights... |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. But the school has the right to limit it's teachers to those that hold a belief in God |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #21 |
34. Religious institutions don't need to rely on bona fide occupational qualification |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. You're right, I was just trying to make it simple |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:20 PM Response to Reply #19 |
69. had it not been for her being a fool and letting the cat out of the bag, or exposing her lie |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #69 |
70. Yes, as a school teacher, she has no right to a private, personal life |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #70 |
72. damn straight. i understand... internet, lol, is not "private". so i am aware of what i post |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #72 |
78. She was fired for being a member of an atheist website |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:42 PM Response to Reply #72 |
80. Then you're a fool and are part of the reason why employers feel they can |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:11 AM Response to Reply #80 |
116. i am a fool because i know that internet is not "private" and i can get my ass fired or suffer other |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. What lie? |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #71 |
73. you will also read that she participated in prayer and other religious rites. lookin like a lie |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:29 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. It means she didn't make her lack of belief an issue at work. No dishonesty is implied. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:12 AM Response to Reply #76 |
117. she pretended to be a christian. lie. nt |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:36 AM Response to Reply #117 |
127. The judge in her unemployment case found no misconduct on her behalf |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:18 PM Response to Reply #127 |
133. umemployment cases are hard to win for an employer, as it should be and that is fine. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:47 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. Her lack of religion DID NOT interfere with her job. The facts of the case make that clear. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #136 |
137. she said she participated, firstly. secondly, whether other private religious schools are more open |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #137 |
138. THIS school employs non-Catholic faculty therefore, adherence to Catholic doctrine |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 01:51 PM Response to Reply #138 |
139. many christians school, though of a particular denomination, do not require specific religion |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:01 PM Response to Reply #139 |
140. You're alleging something for which you have no proof. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:29 PM Response to Reply #140 |
142. You're alleging something ... as are you. you are right, they are guesses. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #142 |
147. Not believing in transubstantiation also contradicts the school's goals, |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:18 PM Response to Reply #147 |
148. wtf? lol. i think we have played this one out. |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:49 AM Response to Reply #73 |
104. So I guess you think all atheist students are liars when they recite "one nation under God"? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. Just further proof |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #10 |
27. "Standards"? That's a strange word to use in this context. nt |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. How so? |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
86. It almost implies that a believer is "better" than a non-believer. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #30 |
87. An institution that doesn't get rid of pedophiles thinks atheism is unacceptable? |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
31. That is pretty standard actually. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 08:51 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. All. The. time. Legally. |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:02 PM Response to Reply #6 |
15. What if a teacher at a gay school said he felt "god hates fags" on their FB? (nt) |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:09 PM Response to Reply #15 |
20. As long as he doesn't try to spread his philosophy to students... |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:20 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. The teacher in question didn't try spread her philosophy to students. |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:00 AM Response to Reply #15 |
90. Could you please give some examples of "gay schools"? Thanks. nt |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:13 AM Response to Reply #90 |
92. Harvey Milk High School in NYC. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:18 AM Response to Reply #92 |
94. They're a public school FWIW |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #94 |
95. I know HMHS is a public school. |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:25 AM Response to Reply #92 |
97. How is Harvey Milk High School a "gay school"? They don't teach kids to be gay. nt |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:30 AM Response to Reply #97 |
98. You weren't real clear about what kind of example you wanted, so I went |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #98 |
100. I asked for an example because I thought it would help me understand your point. |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:44 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. I wasn't making a point. I merely answered a question you asked of another poster. |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:50 AM Response to Reply #102 |
105. O.K., thanks. Sorry to be a pest. nt |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #105 |
106. You're not a pest. When threads get active, it becomes difficult to tell who's responding to what. |
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me b zola (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:48 AM Response to Reply #15 |
103. Are you seriously comparing atheists to bigoted hate groups? n/t |
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Shadow Creature (105 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:59 PM Response to Reply #6 |
63. good question |
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lynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:29 AM Response to Reply #6 |
107. Not so much discrimination in this case as an employment requirement - |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #6 |
159. WOW! Many here at DU support Rand Paul... |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
42. Does it receive a dime of federal funding? |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:02 AM Response to Reply #5 |
113. Signed, Rand Paul. n/t |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:21 PM Response to Reply #5 |
149. If they get any kind of public funds, they shouldn't be able to...n/t |
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Bert (445 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #5 |
155. Whatever |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 09:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
11. What company do you work for which would allow |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:07 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Socialism and Communism are against pretty much EVERY company's core values |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:21 PM Response to Reply #17 |
29. You can't answer a question with a question. |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
101. I've always though that a bunch of communists should get together and start a charter school. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #2 |
16. he works for microsoft, but on his facebook he tells all it is junk, to buy a mac |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #2 |
85. Atheists get away with being bigots on DU all the time |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:03 AM Response to Reply #85 |
114. Oh please, pretty much anytime anyone states their lack of belief in God... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #114 |
151. Can you point to just one example of that? |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. Offended probably is the better word, but the result is more or less the same... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 06:12 PM Response to Reply #154 |
156. Yes, please do |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #2 |
132. Umm she worked for the Cathlic Church as a teacher |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:35 PM Response to Reply #2 |
143. It's alarming how so many blame the victims of abuse or injustice. |
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raccoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:21 AM Response to Reply #2 |
161. Honey, in my state employers can fire somebody for any reason or NO reason, |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
18. Facebook outing the stupid again... |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:13 PM Response to Reply #18 |
22. So are all atheists stupid, or just the ones who dare admit it? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
24. Sorry |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #24 |
35. It might be stupid to diss your employer on Facebook, but she didn't do ithat |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #35 |
47. To say that you don't believe in a deity |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:47 PM Response to Reply #47 |
53. Well if that's the case, then the school violated Section VII of the EEOC |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-31-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #53 |
160. If that's true |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. Would you say it's a safe bet that her beliefs led her to LIE on her employment application? |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #25 |
43. If she had lied on her application, I am sure the school would have publicized that fact |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #43 |
51. I can't believe for the life of me that the question wasn't asked on the app. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:50 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. All I can say is this- |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #54 |
56. Here's a link to the Diocese employment application form. I don't see any questions pertaining to a |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:54 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Nope. It doesn't even ask about Catholicism |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:01 AM Response to Reply #58 |
112. It may be covered in their "code of conduct" or employment contract |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:19 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. using facebook to announce a conflict of interest with your employer |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
32. Or someone getting a job with NOW |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:25 PM Response to Reply #26 |
36. But she didn't do that |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. Yes it is, if your employer is a Catholic school that requires a belief in God. n/t |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. seems exactly the same to me. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:29 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. Do you think that somewhere on her employment application, the question "Do you believe in God" |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:32 PM Response to Reply #41 |
46. They knew she wasn't Catholic when they hired her. |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:38 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Are you saying you believe a Catholic school employment application wouldn't ask if you believe in |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:43 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. It doesn't. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:52 PM Response to Reply #52 |
55. Wow. It doesn't even mention religion at all |
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cherokeeprogressive (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
61. I owe a whole bunch of people a huge apology. I was totally wrong. WRONG I WAS. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #61 |
66. S'allright. It happens. N/T |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #61 |
67. Apology accepted. |
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TorchTheWitch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #50 |
88. Most likely it wouldn't |
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Dorian Gray (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
141. I doubt it |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #41 |
48. Actually, I really doubt that |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:31 PM Response to Reply #26 |
45. The teacher announced a disagreement. But a "conflict of interest"? That's debatable. |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #45 |
59. Saying "there is no God" while working for a Catholic school? |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #59 |
91. If there is a "conflict of interest" here, it's because the school does not care about math... |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:59 AM Response to Reply #91 |
110. That might be true, but it isn't the point of law |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:27 PM Response to Reply #45 |
74. Its not up to you and me to decide that |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:44 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. I am not "deciding" anything. And I never said that the school was not within its rights. |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:47 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I'm betting the local EEOC investigator won't see how either N/T |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:23 AM Response to Reply #81 |
96. Well actually you said "its debateable" |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:31 AM Response to Reply #96 |
99. Well, I don't think the employer's point of view is the only one that matters. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #99 |
109. We don't have it, but they are usually pretty consistent in this area |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:28 PM Response to Reply #26 |
152. The other non-Catholic teachers employed by the school announce a conflict of interest with their |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:33 PM Response to Reply #152 |
158. then we should ask what was different here. |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:23 PM Response to Reply #22 |
33. The Catholic church is going to fire you if you don't uphold its doctrines |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. Actually, the article makes clear that they employ non-Catholics |
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depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:35 PM Response to Reply #39 |
49. Nevertheless it's their prerogative- and there are tons of instance where they've done so |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:53 PM Response to Reply #49 |
57. Actually, under Title VII, I'm pretty sure it's not |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
60. But they can sure fire you if they feel you are hurting their stated mission |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #60 |
64. How is hiring non-Catholics any different? If they're not Catholic, they don't |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:02 PM Response to Reply #60 |
65. But she didn't do that, did she? |
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PassingFair (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #60 |
129. Catholics have been know to have problems with Lutherans in the past, you know... |
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smokey nj (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
44. They knew she wasn't Catholic when they hired her, so they knew she didn't necessarily uphold their |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #18 |
146. Honesty should not be a crime... |
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charlie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
62. Ah well. The astute students will notice the dissonance |
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Chef Eric (576 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:16 AM Response to Reply #62 |
93. Well said, charlie. nt |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:46 PM Response to Reply #62 |
145. Pedophilia is fine to Catholic leaders, but don't dare be an honest person! |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
75. I'm sorry, I know people here love to hate Catholics, |
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tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. She not he. n/t |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:37 PM Response to Reply #75 |
79. You don't have to hate Catholics to be opposed to bigotry |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:51 PM Response to Reply #75 |
84. Funny, you'd think being a pedophile would be a bigger impediment to employment |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:52 AM Response to Reply #84 |
125. Yes, you would think so, wouldn't you? |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 07:50 AM Response to Reply #75 |
108. I hate this oversensitive crap, speaking as an ex-Catholic, just STFU already. |
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liberalhistorian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:50 AM Response to Reply #108 |
124. I did not say I agreed with it. And I was not making excuses |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:39 AM Response to Reply #124 |
128. Oh please, start with an unsupported assertion and then claim oppression... |
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spoony (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #128 |
153. Oh, I see |
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AnArmyVeteran (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 03:26 PM Response to Reply #75 |
150. Just what is their 'doctrine'? Does that mean employees must be forced to rape children? |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-29-10 11:46 PM Response to Original message |
82. We atheists are the last group that it's OK to treat like shit. |
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TransitJohn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:14 AM Response to Reply #82 |
118. Atheists and............SMOKERS!!!!! |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
111. It's the same reason that the likes of Tiger Woods are fired |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:05 AM Response to Reply #111 |
115. Did you just compare Atheism to the action of Tiger Woods? |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:41 AM Response to Reply #115 |
120. It's all about perspective of the employer |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:15 AM Response to Original message |
119. I'll ask the same question I asked in the other thread on this subject: |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 08:55 AM Response to Reply #119 |
121. If this teacher insisted that pi=3, then you might have a point... |
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onenote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:49 AM Response to Reply #121 |
130. so if a file clerk at the NAACP publicly announced that they had joined the KKK |
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Cleobulus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #130 |
131. You know, its really fucked up, and downright offensive, to compare a lack of belief... |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #119 |
126. That's a poor analogy |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
122. Now if the Catholics could just be as discriminating |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
134. Mother Theresa didn't believe in God either. n/t |
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Blue-Jay (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-30-10 02:42 PM Response to Original message |
144. I'm an atheist, but this doesn't really bother me. |
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