BP started Top Kill 2pm EST according to MSNBC nt

[flamingdem]

[Hell Hath No Fury]

1. Keeping my fingers and toes crossed --

:scared: :cry:

[polichick]

2. Start praying people - or sending good energy or whatever you do!!!

[xultar]

22. Shit do both regardless.

[polichick]

30. Yeah, I tend to do both - cover all possibilities! nt

[Scurrilous]

3. Let's hope it succeeds.

:thumbsup:

[dgibby]

4. CNN just reported same thing.

Holding my breath. I have family in NOLA, am worried sick about them. They're expecting their first child in Oct.

Sure hope this works! Don't think the Gulf can survive until Aug.



On edit: CNN showing live feed in inset screen.

[Joanne98]

5. The link to the webcam?

[Webster Green]

7. Here..

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[dgibby]

9. CNN showing live feed. n/t

[Wilber_Stool]

11. Here tiss:

http://www.livestream.com/oilspill

[lefty2000]

14. Here's one

<http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html>

[backscatter712]

24. Just from watching MSNBC - the process may not be like shutting off a faucet.

As top-kill proceeds, we may see everything from the gusher going and stopping, or temporarily increasing in flow rate - the process is not simple, and it might take a couple days for things to settle out.

[robinblue]

45. BP said it may take 2 days.

[Poll_Blind]

6. Isn't this supposed to be broadcast? n/t

PB

[flamingdem]

10. They aren't going to show the operation

the gushing pipe will show changes from more to less flow they have warned.

It is a bad sign if it stops completely I believe.

[Duer 157099]

16. A bad sign if it stops completely? Isn't that the goal?

:shrug:

[backscatter712]

27. If it stops completely, I'll be that's because pressure is building...

Or that the flow stopped there because a new leak formed somewhere else.

[flamingdem]

31. Here's an uber geek thread of engineers commenting live - theoildrum.com

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6509

[profgoose]

62. also a live blog from engineers and geologists with video feed here...

http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6508
both links are really good though--of course, I am biased. :)

[AngryAmish]

8. I have nothing intelligent to add

I just like seeing my words on the computer.

[flamingdem]

12. You can't add some of these?

:scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::scared::boring:

[AngryAmish]

26. No. I don't know how to add those.

But here I am, putting my words on the computer again. L.O.O.K A.T. M.E....>>>>

[Oregone]

13. I really want this to work!!!! We need to live long enough to drill on the moon and mars and beyond

The human virus is just waking up. To infinity, and beyond!

[global1]

15. So The Live Cam Is Only Showing The Oil Spewing From The Pipe.......

Unlike last night - BP is not showing on the live camera of what is going on down on the ocean floor. Last night BP was streaming a lot of preparation work that was being done to get ready for this procedure and it was compelling video. One was able to see the robotic arms doing that work. Really cool. Today - they only have the camera fixed on the spewing oil - looks like they don't want us to see what they are actually doing down there.

Here's the link to the live feed from BP: http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[flamingdem]

18. They never show the BOP. That's why they conceded to keep the camera on

so we could all feel ... uh ... included?

Regardless if it blows we'll see something. Yikes.

[Duer 157099]

Well, considering what I was watching last night

I can understand why they don't want us watching today!

Swear to god I half expect them to start using duct tape. More than half, actually.

[nadinbrzezinski]

17. Hope it works

[flamingdem]

21. I hope they are being forthright and it's not just a PR move AND I hope it works! nt

[Strelnikov_]

34. "Top Kill" is a standard strategy. Problem is, doesn't always work.

Only sure way is to drill the relief wells. Problem is, sometimes it takes 7 trys on those.

The surest way is to not have the spill in the first place by having heavily regulated, reviewed and inspected operations. Or, not drilling at all if the risk cannot be reduced to near nonexistent.

But in the privatized Libertarian paradise we live in, where regulation is the 'market' punishing 'bad actors', this is what we are left with.

[flamingdem]

35. Yup. And I think it's never been tried underwater nt

[backscatter712]

19. Top-kill is a go.

Hopefully, all the oil-geeks did their homework, got all the tests and measurements required, ran the computer simulations, and will get it right this time.

They've had a month to put this together, so I'll give my revised Mythbusters odds, pulled straight out of my Gut of Truthiness...

50% chance of success.
40% chance that something goes wrong and they abort.
10% chance that something goes horribly wrong, say the BOP ruptures, and they make the problem worse.

Cross your fingers...

[flamingdem]

23. This link shows it is a pretty sincere effort - an engineer was tweeting it

until his boss told him to stop!

http://www.twitter.com/jgrindal

[elleng]

36. VERY interesting, flaming!

[flamingdem]

38. He is probably young and believes in sharing information! Not like his boss nt

[xultar]

20. which is the best feed to watch the process

[flamingdem]

25. I am not sure. Here's one

http://www.livestream.com/oilspill

[Brother Buzz]

46. They are running a banner at the bottom stating. "Coming soon: BP live feed"

That site is showing a nice clear loop of the oil flow that could be days old. :shrug:

[flamingdem]

48. Go to the BP site or see it on CNN nt

[Brother Buzz]

50. My dinosaur computer doesn't have enough horsepower for either of those sites

Bummer.

[flamingdem]

52. Try theoildrum.com for up to the minute commentary

a bit geeky however

http://www.theoildrum.com

[Brother Buzz]

57. I sat in with them last night.

Geeky? They communicate in a language I'm very comfortable with, does that make this reformed Luddite a Geek? Cool.

[flamingdem]

61. Yes you are a neo-Geek now!

Now you just need to check out twitter:

http://www.twitter.com/theoildrum

[Brother Buzz]

63. I visited visited there, too

But the Luddite in me is still the stumbling block; I have no clue what a Twitter is. ;)

[flamingdem]

64. Try clicking on the links, it's a great source of up to the minute info!

I swear!

[Webster Green]

28. This feed shows the color of the plume better than some others..

Looks like there's more lighter colored stuff coming out. (mud?)

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[bdamomma]

56. what exactly are we looking at?

[snooper2]

40. You usually go to the source, which would be BP's website

http://www.bp.com/liveassets/bp_internet/globalbp/globalbp_uk_english/homepage/STAGING/local_assets/bp_homepage/html/rov_stream.html

[Statistical]

29. Don't expect quick results (very slow operation 24-48 hours).

CNBC was saying that BP indicated they will be slowly ramping up pressure and even if successful it may take as long as 24-48 hours before flow stops.

[Born_A_Truman]

32. Interesting tweet from jgrindal

Wow, just got a scathing call from mgmt, requesting I tone down my twitter info...

http://twitter.com/jgrindal

[flamingdem]

That was a great source until the Big Boss found out nt

[Born_A_Truman]

68. Total silence from him now ....

No further tweets.

[Duer 157099]

33. Houston? n/t

[NYC_SKP]

37. The outflow from the BOP seems to be of a decidedly different color right now...

More orangish-red than ever.

I wonder what color the kill mud is.

:shrug:

[flamingdem]

39. What feed are you watching? nt

[NYC_SKP]

42. Here:

http://www.livestream.com/oilspill

[robinblue]

51. the flume is a mixture of crude and natural gases/ Different

colors day by day depending on what is escaping.

[backscatter712]

53. I imagine now there's drilling mud coming out as well.

Here's hoping for success...

[robinblue]

60. yes, lets all hope this time it works.

[Subdivisions]

41. Camera is now showing the BOP. n/t

[flamingdem]

43. On livestream? The BP camera is inside of an ROV now nt

[flamingdem]

44. I see! We finally get to see the BOP on BP's cam nt

[revolution breeze]

47. I am taking a break for a while.

We have had 24/7 coverage here in southeast Louisiana for the past month. Today it has reached a head, and I need to take a break. I sat here watching the live feed sobbing. I feel so broken. I feel this top kill is our last chance and if this doesn't work, we will have to make important decisions regarding whether we stay here or give up and move.

[flamingdem]

49. My heart goes out to you. Hang in there!

:grouphug:

[revolution breeze]

55. Thank you.

We have been on a roller coaster. Immediately following the explosion we were told the oil was minimal. Fourty eight hours later we knew that was a lie but they have had solution after solution after solution. In the mean time, I interviewed for a job after being unemployed for almost a year, but was told that they are going to put the position on hold until we find out what is going to happen to our area. And I heard a beekeeper talking today about his bees acting crazy, swarming more than usual. I can't take any more.

[flamingdem]

58. I can't imagine the stress.

I think I would sleep for the next 24 hours to get away from the uncertainty. I hope you can unite in that area and work to get throught this together, and that compensation and jobs follow.

[bdamomma]

59. I pray that it works out for you guys, you deserve better.

[Petrushka]

54. Whuzzup in the livestream video at the following link? --->

http://www.wkrg.com/gulf_oil_spill/spill_cam/

[graywarrior]

66. Use this link

http://www.livestream.com/wkrg_oil_spill

[Petrushka]

67. Looks pretty much the same as what's visible in the link I posted . . .

. . . still can't figure out, however, whazzup down there.

[csziggy]

65. CNN seems to have better coverage of the procedure

For one thing, they have ALL the camera feeds from BP, not just the one that is being sent out to most media outlets. Rick Sanchez is fascinated and keeping an eye on the various shots.

This will take at least ten hours to get the pipe blocked. Then an additional day or two to keep pumping in the stuff to make sure the plug holds. The figures given were one barrel of material for each foot of casing; a thousand feet must be filled to stop the leakage; thousands more to make sure. One barrel pumped per minute. So 1000 minutes to stop it = ten hours. At least two days to pump enough to make certain.