If ‘Top Kill’ Fails, Obama Must Take Reins

[robinblue]

Letting BP be in charge of a national disaster is wrong.



http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/if-top-kill-fails-obama-must-take-reins/?partner=rss&emc=rss


May 24, 2010, 11:11 am
If ‘Top Kill’ Fails, Obama Must Take Reins
By ANDREW C. REVKIN

In the last few days there’s been a mix of messages from government officials about whether the Obama administration has the authority to take control of the unrelenting seabed oil gusher in the Gulf of Mexico.

But there’s no doubt, at least in the language of relevant federal law; President Obama not only has the authority, but the obligation — however politically risky that might be — to take ownership of efforts to stanch the flow.

And the time is nigh to do so, given that BP has demonstrated, through delays in the release of information and repeated statements downplaying the gravity of the situation, that it cannot be trusted to carry out operations with the public interest at the fore.

To my mind, if the “ top kill” procedure being prepared for midweek fails, Obama must step forward far more forcefully and publicly engage an oil-well SWAT team drawing on the country’s leading lights in hydraulics, deep-ocean engineering and geology, from the Pentagon outward.

<3:24 p.m. | Updated BP officials this afternoon made it clear that explosives have been all but ruled out as an option for closing the well. Henry Fountain has a great profile in The Times of one of the veteran blowout killers working to choke off the flow. Here's a BP animation of the top kill plan.>.........................................

[KharmaTrain]

1. And Do What???

And this oil-well SWAT team that works on land will do what at 5,000 feet below the ocean?

I'm still looking for a realistic answer to how the US government can stop this gusher where BP is failing. No defense of BP whatsoever and when the real blame game begins...the lawsuits and criminal prosecutions, we'll deal with the negligence that made this mess happen.

From most reliable blogs and reports I've read, we're in this for the long haul...until a second will is drilled to relieve the pressure. All other effforts are stop gap at best and all the sci-fi "solutions" offer just as much chance of success.

I recall people here deservedly ridiculing Bill Frist for diagnosing Terri Schaivo from a video tape...but somehow an "expert" viewing the BP cam can come up with a solution? After watching Dr. Loo with Rachel last night, one got an idea of how complex and frustrating this mess is and how experts are being tapped to offer ideas, but short of theories and second-guessing, there's no silver bullet here.

[ShortnFiery]

7. Start by firing Ken Salazar and replacing all the corrupt inspectors within the MMS. eom

[kirby]

11. And then what?

Other than 'feeling good', how does that solve the issue at hand?

The US Gov't does not own/run Oil/Gas operations. They do not have the equipment or expertise to deal with this.

[ShortnFiery]

20. Replace the Interior Secretary and Inspector Positions with ...

competent personnel. That's not rocket science.

[KharmaTrain]

21. And This Would Be?

Got someone in mind? And how would they make a difference? I'm no fan of Salazar or his ham-handed cowboy act and if his head rolls, fine with me. But if it's not "rocket science", then who does the President appoint who, in your opinion, is "competent".

[ShortnFiery]

24. Here's a hint: there are several men/women AS or MORE qualified as Ken Salazar for

the position of Interior Secretary. President Obama only needs to seek references and make the appropriate phone call.

[KharmaTrain]

27. A Name Will Suffice...

I don't do hints well...I didn't take Clairvoyance in school. Please list someone you feel is qualified...if you have the phone number, I'll be sure to pass it along to the White House.

[ShortnFiery]

28. That's a Straw Man argument. When Salazar was nominated, there were questions

of his competence. I'm not privy to the the names of people who would qualify but MANY WOULD.

You know that, don't you? But you're using a straw man to defend the incompetence of Salazar?

If he's so competent, why didn't he know before hand that Inspectors were having sex, partying and accepting gifts from the very officials they were tasked to regulate?

Nothing is more incompetent than not knowing THAT is going on in your department.

Yes, Alfred E. Newman, recent graduate (Industrial Psychology, M.S.) could have done a better job at managing the MMS. ;)

[KharmaTrain]

33. I Was Only Asking For A Name...

Can't make a strawman without straw... :rofl:

And how am I defending Salazar? I've said that he's been inept in cleaning house at Interior and MMS...I'll leave the decision of his future with his employer.

Here's a Sy Hersh story from March, 2009 about the "burrowing"...

http://thinkprogress.org/2009/03/31/hersh-cheney-behind/

The idea that Cheney would seed the government with trusted contacts is not surprising. As Hersh noted in his talk with Gross, Cheney has “been around forever” and “understands bureaucracy much better” than almost anyone in government. In 2006, Robert Dreyfuss reported for The American Prospect that when Cheney helped staff the Bush administration in 2001, he put together a “corps of hard-line acolytes” that served “as his eyes and ears” in the federal bureaucracy. Former officials called them “Dick Cheney’s spies.”

Additionally, before leaving office, the Bush administration aggressively placed political appointees into permanent civil service positions as part of a process known as “burrowing.” Some of the burrowed former political appointees have close ties to Cheney, such as Jeffrey T. Salmon, who was a speechwriter for Cheney when he served as defense secretary. In July, he was named deputy director for resource management in the Energy Department’s Office of Science

If Mr. Newman has the credentials and can clean out this deparment (what me worry...that sure sounds like Salazar to me) then let's get the name out there.

[ShortnFiery]

43. LOL, You are not going to convince anyone with your Straw Man.

Perhaps that butt ugly cowboy hat is irreplaceable, but, I assure you, one each - Ken Salazar, is NOT "the YODA of Interior Secretaries." ;)

Bottom line: Replace Salazar - we presently OWN the Congress - push his replacement through.

[KharmaTrain]

46. With Whom??

I'm gonna continue to ask...name a name. Who will get the 60 votes for Confirmation? I could care less about Salazar...but you're the one who is clamming for immediate change. I'm simply asking who should be the agent of that change.

[ShortnFiery]

55. Look back to the list of initial applicants. Have Rahm start there.

He can call me if he needs more guidance. :eyes:

[Renew Deal]

51. How do you know that Salazar isn't the most qualified person?

Do you really know the qualifications of any of these people that must be qualified (and willing) because you said so?

[ShortnFiery]

56. ...

Stop you're killing me. :rofl:

[dionysus]

61. so, you have no clue, you're just spouting off general discontent.

CRUISLE MISLES!1!!!

[jberryhill]

30. It is a well known fact that firing Ken Salazar causes oil to stop gushing /nt

[Renew Deal]

15. What's firing Salazar or the inspectors told not to inspect going to accomplish?

Will it make you feel good?

[ShortnFiery]

17. Did you read the article sited? They didn't do their damn jobs.

Salazar was their boss.

Fire all of them because their incompetence contributed to the situation that we have found ourselves in.

They FAIL every single INSPECTION check, up to, and including = allowing them to put sea water instead of mud in the hole as the LAST step before capping it off.

Wow! I can't believe you think these SHAMELESS SLACKERS should be let off of the hook? :shrug:

On Edit: I cited this in another thread. Please peruse and note that Salazar should GO with them. He is overall responsible and should not remain.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704026204575266112115488640.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLENexttoWhatsNewsTop

[Renew Deal]

23. The inspectors you're talking about are from the Bush era and are gone.

"It wasn't immediately clear how many MMS staffers were implicated in the inspector general's report, which covers actions that occurred between 2000 and 2008. Mr. Salazar said in his statement Tuesday that some have resigned, been terminated, or referred for prosecution. He added that any remaining staffers accused in the IG report of questionable behavior will be placed on administrative leave pending the outcome of a personnel review."

Then there's the issue of not inspecting the wells because it's too complicated.

[ShortnFiery]

45. Good Ken needs to follow them out of the door along with the others shuffled elsewhere. eom

[Renew Deal]

47. Why?

And replaced with who?

[KharmaTrain]

50. Welcome To The Club...

If you get an answer, please let me know...

[ShortnFiery]

54. What? Are you related to Ken Salazar? Is he the YODA of all that is an Interior Secretary?

He made an EPIC FAIL and he should be out of a job. The only reason anyone is defending him is that they don't want anyone from MMS taking any responsibility other than say, the Night Shift Janitor.

This is UNSAT. There are MANY qualified applicants who could fill the Interior Secretary and MMS inspector positions.

[Renew Deal]

57. The problem is that you're shouting that he must go

But you don't have a reason to replace him. You don't have someone to replace him with. And you don't know what the effect of doing that would be. How would it be positive? You didn't even know that the BUSH ERA MMS employees that you were upset about have already been dealt with.

No one has been defending Salazar. We're just trying to figure out why and how you want to replace him.

[ShortnFiery]

63. Because he failed to do his job. How much clearer do I need to be?

Both Obama and Salazar knew that there were BushCo cronies in the MMS but they took ZERO steps other than writing a strongly worded moral code. Salazar didn't even follow up to make sure these folks weren't schmoozing with the contractors.

Salazar was an abject failure as a MANAGER and yet you think he should stay? :crazy:

[stray cat]

9. People seem to think yelling and screaming works on oil flows a mile down

[ShortnFiery]

18. Failing to conduct adequate inspections throughout qualifies as incompetence. eom

[KharmaTrain]

26. Cart & Horse...

The lack of inspections and the absolute whoring of the MMS is a cause, but it has little to do now that the horse is out of the barn. The corruption of the MMS first came to light in 2007 with little more than a chuckle from the corporate media about the partying that went around...few, if any, looked to see the damage had gone on. The booosh regime planted its moles deep in the MMS and Interior Department and I do blame Salazar for not cleaning house, but the corruption and cronyism run deep and it was hard to root out the moles who remained.

That said, there should be prosecutions of those, including MMS and Interior Dept. officials, who share in the blame, but that doesn't fix a volcano of oil that continues to spew and turn the Gulf Coast to goo. The focus right now has to be on shutting off the oil, beginning the clean-up and mandatory inspections of every off-shore rig...especially several that have been sited for repeated safety violations. They must be shut down until proven to be truly safe.

The blame, guilt and liability game will follow...and you'll have plenty of time to demand accountability (and I'll be right with you) as the aftermath of this disaster will last for years...

[ShortnFiery]

31. Yes, Salazar should be forced to resign at a minimum and all the inspectors should ...

be replaced. Clean house and start anew with a different (hopefully moral) work ethic.

I don't understand why people at the TOP get a pass for being "incompetent sh*theads?"

Salazar was RESPONSIBLE for the MMS and needs to GO as of yesterday.

[KharmaTrain]

38. And Short-Staff During A Crisis?

Remember, Gail Norton ran Interior into the ground and I am still hoping she is prosecuted for much of what Salazar is being blamed for.

Here's the rub...we're in the middle of a major disaster...people here are clammoring for "strong leadership" and you want to gut the agency at the heart of the forthcoming clean-up? I'm all for a major revamp where needed, but a wholescale bloodletting just for the sake of seeing heads roll does little to plug the gusher or begin the clean-up.

If you fire Salazar, then who do you replace him with...and don't forget, whomever is nominated has to be confirmed by the dysfunctional Senate...surely to be yet another political football...meanwhile there's no one in charge at a crucial time. Yes, Salazar has to be held responsible...and I expect he will be, but gutting MMS and Interior or, even worse, paralyzing it, sure won't help right now. All in due measure.

[robinblue]

40. Are you saying the US does not qualified to fit these positions

quickly? Hogwash!

[KharmaTrain]

41. I'm Just Asking For A Name...

It's not what I think...its a question to those who want to replace Salazar (and I've said repeatedly that's fine with me), but just name a name of someone who would do a better job.

Yes, I'm saying that if a new Interior Secretary is appointed, the Senate will sit on its hands and play political football while there's no one in charge. It would take months...and are you willing to allow a critical position remain unfilled right at the time its needed the most?

[ShortnFiery]

42. Yes, fire them all or shuffle them away. They are not irreplaceable. That includes Salazar. eom

[KharmaTrain]

44. And This Happens Overnight???

Should we bring in college kids in Engineering school? Do we forget about vetting for experience and or conflicts of interest just so change is made for the sake of change?

You are right, no one is irreplaceable but doing a wholescale cleaning...which we both agree is needed isn't something that can happen quickly. I'd love to hear Sec. Chu comes up with...but this isn't his department, and even he said that the government has very limited options as long as the oil continues to gush.

[ShortnFiery]

49. Hell yes, these CERTAIN people are not "the second coming." We have lists of qualified personnel

Please, your arguments are beyond inane. The USA government has access to pools of talent that can accomplish almost any specialized tasks/positions.

[tbredbeck]

62. Yeah, but

there's a serious question of timing involved. Given lots of time, I'm sure the government could come up with a solution. Meanwhile oil keeps gushing. Besides, the only permanent solution, the relief well, is already being done by two rigs.

I seriously doubt the government can come up with a "SWAT" team that's going to solve the problem any faster than the people currently working on it.

[phleshdef]

60. Salazar was NOT responsible for the MMS when the breakdown in inspecting this rig occurred.

You just don't like Salazar. Thats fine. But stop blaming him for failures that the laws of time and physics prevented him from ever fucking having.

[meow mix]

10. replace the incompetant BP employees, and stop using corex

fire salazar and admiral thad.
increase the amount of resources deployed.

[robinblue]

14. Gov role is supervisory per Salazar (via the WH).......

My guess is that WH had a little chat with Mr. S......


http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/earth/25spill.html?hp

By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON, CLIFFORD KRAUSS, JOHN M. BRODER
Published: May 24, 2010


.............Senators and administration officials visiting the southern Louisiana town of Galliano lashed out again at BP on Monday, saying they were “beyond patience” with the company. The day before, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who early in the crisis vowed to “keep the boot on the neck” of BP, threatened to push the company out of the way.

But on Monday, Mr. Salazar backed off, conceding to the reality that BP and the oil companies have access to the best technology to attack the well, a mile below the surface, even though that technology has proved so far to have fallen short of its one purpose. The government’s role, he acknowledged, is largely supervisory and the primary responsibility for the spill, for legal and practical reasons, remains with the company.

“The administration has done everything we can possibly do to make sure that we push BP to stop the spill and to contain the impact,” Mr. Salazar said. “We have also been very clear that there are areas where BP and the private sector are the ones who must continue to lead the efforts with government oversight, such as the deployment of private sector technology 5,000 feet below the ocean’s surface to kill the well.”......................

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[dionysus]

13. "cardboard cut-out animatron wind-up "president" we now have."

you're disturbed.

:puke:

[ima_sinnic]

19. whatever. yes, corruption and corporate ass-kissing "disturb" me.

But do carry on with your vomiting, about all anyone can do now anyway. With you and your ilk, the ONLY thing that's important is maintaining that cult of personality. Policies, corruption, ineffectualness--none of that matters--only the illusion that Obama is really in charge and not fronting for string-pullers or bowing and scraping to lobbyists and corporate dons. But the illusion is wearing thin--too many have seen through it, so get out there and play whack-a-mole, because there will be no end to it now.

[dionysus]

39. "ilk", "cult", "bowing and scraping", come on, you've got better in your bag!

:rofl:

[robinblue]

74. yes, it deeply disturbs me also.

[flamingdem]

53. As Axelrod says "We're working in concert with BP", not quite the boot analogy nt

[robinblue]

2. Here’s the legal reality...........(WH HAS the authority)......

http://dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/05/24/if-top-kill-fails-obama-must-take-reins/?partner=rss&emc=rss


.......Here’s the legal reality. At the Natural Resources Defense Council Switchboard blog, a staff attorney, David Pettit, has posted language in the Clean Water Act, which was amended through the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, that appears clearly to vest the president with both the authority and the obligation to take the reins in a major oil spill where private actions have failed:

(A) If a discharge, or a substantial threat of a discharge, of oil or a hazardous substance from a vessel, offshore facility, or onshore facility is of such a size or character as to be a substantial threat to the public health or welfare of the United States (including but not limited to fish, shellfish, wildlife, other natural resources, and the public and private beaches and shorelines of the United States), the President shall direct all Federal, State, and private actions to remove the discharge or to mitigate or prevent the threat of the discharge. (the rest of the Switchboard post)

There’s no doubt. The responsibility to run the effort to stanch the oil flow lies with the White House. It was pretty clear on May 14 and is clearer now: Move over, BP.................

http://switchboard.nrdc.org/blogs/dpettit/the_coast_guard_is_in_charge_i.html

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Posted May 23, 2010 in Moving Beyond Oil, U.S. Law and Policy

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In the last week or so, I’ve been getting calls asking whether the U.S. Government has the legal authority to take control of the Gulf oil spill away from clueless British Petroleum (BP).

It does.

The background for this authority starts, as many oil spill-related laws seem to, with the Exxon Valdez incident in 1989. That led Congress to pass the Oil Pollution Act of 1990 (OPA), which I’ve blogged about here.

OPA, among other things, amended Section 311 of the federal Clean Water Act. Section 311 now provides in part that:

(A) If a discharge, or a substantial threat of a discharge, of oil or a hazardous substance from a vessel, offshore facility, or onshore facility is of such a size or character as to be a substantial threat to the public health or welfare of the United States (including but not limited to fish, shellfish, wildlife, other natural resources, and the public and private beaches and shorelines of the United States), the President shall direct all Federal, State, and private actions to remove the discharge or to mitigate or prevent the threat of the discharge.
(B) In carrying out this paragraph, the President may, without regard to any other provision of law governing contracting procedures or employment of personnel by the Federal Government--
(i) remove or arrange for the removal of the discharge, or mitigate or prevent the substantial threat of the discharge; and
(ii) remove and, if necessary, destroy a vessel discharging, or threatening to discharge, by whatever means are available.

The italics in this quote were inserted by me for emphasis. You can look this up at 33 U.S. Code Section 1321(c). ................

[stray cat]

8. Everyone knows they have the authority - its the expertise and equipment they lack

The good samaritan law gives people the authority to try to save your life if you collapse from a heart attack but it doesn't mean they are competent to do open heart message and bring you back from the dead.

[robinblue]

16. Salazar and the WH do not seem to know that.....

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/25/science/earth/25spill.html?hp

By CAMPBELL ROBERTSON, CLIFFORD KRAUSS, JOHN M. BRODER
Published: May 24, 2010


.............Senators and administration officials visiting the southern Louisiana town of Galliano lashed out again at BP on Monday, saying they were “beyond patience” with the company. The day before, Interior Secretary Ken Salazar, who early in the crisis vowed to “keep the boot on the neck” of BP, threatened to push the company out of the way.

But on Monday, Mr. Salazar backed off, conceding to the reality that BP and the oil companies have access to the best technology to attack the well, a mile below the surface, even though that technology has proved so far to have fallen short of its one purpose. The government’s role, he acknowledged, is largely supervisory and the primary responsibility for the spill, for legal and practical reasons, remains with the company.

“The administration has done everything we can possibly do to make sure that we push BP to stop the spill and to contain the impact,” Mr. Salazar said. “We have also been very clear that there are areas where BP and the private sector are the ones who must continue to lead the efforts with government oversight, such as the deployment of private sector technology 5,000 feet below the ocean’s surface to kill the well.”......................

[ljm2002]

32. Everyone knows they have the authority? Really?

You might want to inform Press Secretary Gibbs, who two days ago was continuing to hide behind the Oil Pollution Act of 1990, saying that it mandates that BP remain in charge of this mess.

Or you might want to inform the dozens of posters here who every day are telling us the President can't, he just simply cannot legally take charge.

[glitch]

29. Thanks for bringing the facts and fighting the spin Robinblue. K & R nt

[HughMoran]

3. 300,000,000 chefs

This is getting tiresome.

[ShortnFiery]

25. That's what happens when there's a leadership VOID.

Pull our President out of his pragmatic corner and get him to ACT NOW!

Yes, this is an emergency! :nuke:

[WeDidIt]

4. I think there's about a 95% chance Top Kill will fail

It's failed every time they've tried it on other off shore blow outs, why should it work this time?

[slackmaster]

34. Everything that might work and doesn't risk making the situation worse has to be tried

Until the relief wells can be completed.

Maybe one of them will stop of reduce the flow. It's worth a try.

[backscatter712]

35. I'll throw in my out-of-my-ass Mythbusters odds.

40% chance it actually works.
40% chance something goes wrong and they abort.
20% chance something goes wrong, but they don't catch it, the BOP blows, and the leak's made 3 times worse...

I'd like to think that the rocket scientists & such that Obama has on the job are smart enough to use their gamma-ray pictures and other measurements to get a decent idea of how much pressure the BOP can withstand, set the drilling mud pumps appropriately, and yet have enough working room to to get some mud in there and kill the well.

But then again, BP and the government have a track record for fucking things up...

[stray cat]

5. And hold his nose, swim down as low as he can and freeze or explode?

He is in charge - but he has as much expertise available to him as to stop a hurricane from forming.

[ShortnFiery]

22. If Salazar was SUPERVISING and checking up on his people in the MMS ...

perhaps instead of having sex and parties with BP they might have spent more time at INSPECTING the Oil Rig and thus, could have PREVENTED this disaster? Salazar MUST be fired if there is to be any decent accountability at the top.

[ljm2002]

36. Of course not, silly...

...we don't want our President to sacrifice himself in this way. But apparently you see that as the only alternative to what has been done so far. I am quite willing - nay, eager - to have *you* try your idea, though.

[dionysus]

6. "the country’s leading lights in hydraulics, deep-ocean engineering and geology"

he'll be dissappointed when he finds out what field those people work in.

[slackmaster]

37. You've got it. The federal government has a bit of experience taking over industrial enterprises.

Like when it took over Germany's rocketry program after World War II, and used it for (among other things) a starting point for NASA.

Our people took over everything except the slave labor that was used to build V-1 and V-2 rockets at Peenemunde.

When it came to hiring technical experts, we tapped into the best available source - Germany's rocketry program.

[kirby]

65. And how many days did that take?

Sounds like a multi year effort to me which is more time than we have.

[slackmaster]

66. It took several years before any rockets were actually fired

Taking over an enterprise that is in the middle of working a dire emergency is not the right thing to do.

[spiritual_gunfighter]

48. I have no faith that the Obama admin. is going to do anything about this

it is time Mr. President.

[laughingliberal]

52. K & R nt

[tbredbeck]

58. What a lot of nonsense

What the fuck is Obama going to do? Oh, he's going to form a SWAT-team. Guess where they all work, for Big Oil! Hello!!

BP is getting help from the other oil companies to solve this, which means that the SWAT team is already working on it. The problem is that there is no easy solution to this. That's why it's called a clusterfuck.

Is the plan just to send all the BP people home? Then what? Send EPA personnel out to drill the relief well? How many YEARS of gushing would it take for an entirely new team of people unfamiliar with the situation to come up with a solution? Like it or not, BP is in charge of plugging this hole.

Punish them? Sure!
Revoke their right to drill? Great!
Boycott? I am!

But give me a break, the government doesn't have the capability to halt the gushing wellhead, and it would be insane to take that over from BP/industry.

[Individualist]

59. How dare you suggest the President take charge of a NATIONAL disaster!

DLC commands obedience to corporations!

[Dr Fate]

69. That sounds like a far left!

And we dont take to kindly to no far lefts in these here parts.

[n2doc]

64. It failed before they started

Check out the threads on the sea floor explosion- there is no pipe left to "kill". They are going to have to drill down to the base of the well and cork it there. This will take months.

[Karenina]

67. So it was in Mexico 1979 and last year in the Timor Sea.

Canadian regs, that BP is trying to wiggle out of even as I type this, stipulate that relief wells be dug AT THE SAME TIME so if something goes wrong there aren't MONTHS of delay. BP says it's "too expensive."

BP started the drilling process some weeks ago so we're looking at August. Press thumbs that all their PR stunts to appease the screaming populace don't make matters worse.

Crack in the World

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHtZ6Ixeqvs

[freddie mertz]

68. Do you get the feeling they were lying about it all along?

I don't believe anything anyone at BP or in the government is saying about this anymore.

Why would I?

We know now that they have been in cahoots for years.

[Skittles]

70. this is all just another dog and pony show

disgusting beyond belief

[freddie mertz]

72. I would like to see them all rounded up and sunk to the goddamn hole.

Fat asses first.

[Individualist]

71. Letting BP be in charge is insane.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8416758

[robinblue]

73. BREAKING: BP Attempting to Blackout Live Video Feed for “Top Kill” Operation

another DUer found the link for BP saying they will kill the video



http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x8418154