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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:10 PM
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AP: AR. Cop killers had history of active involvement with anti-government, patriot movement
Edited on Fri May-21-10 09:14 PM by guruoo
Police: Ohio man, son killed Ark. officers

By CHUCK BARTELS and KELLY P. KISSEL (AP) – 1 hour ago

Arkansas State Police on Friday identified the pair — killed during an exchange of gunfire with law enforcement officers — as Jerry R. Kane Jr., 45, of Forest, Ohio, and his son, Joesph T. Kane, believed to be 16. Jerry Kane, who used the Internet to question federal and local governments' authority over him, made money holding debt-elimination seminars around the country. He had a long history with police and recently complained about being busted at a "Nazi checkpoint" on I-40 near Carrizozo, N.M., where court records show he spent three days in jail before posting a $1,500 bond on charges of driving without a license and concealing his identity.

Clark County, Ohio, Sheriff Gene Kelly told The Associated Press on Friday that he had issued a warning to officers on July 21, 2004, about Kane, saying he might be dangerous to law enforcement. Kelly said he based his conclusion on a conversation he had with Kane over a sentence Kane received for some traffic violations.

Kelly said Kane had complained in July 2004 about being sentenced to six days of community service for driving with an expired license plate and no seat belt, saying the judge had tried to "enslave" him. Kelly said Kane added that he was a "free man" and asked for $100,000 per day in gold or silver. "After listening to this man for almost 30 minutes, I feel that he is expecting and prepared for confrontations with any law enforcement officer that may come in contact with him," Kelly wrote in his warning to officers.

Kelly told the AP on Friday that he wrote the warning because he was "very concerned about a potential confrontation and about his resentment of authority."
On an Internet radio show — hosted on a website that lets amateurs create their own shows and live discussions — Kane expressed outrage about his New Mexico arrest.
"I ran into a Nazi checkpoint in the middle of New Mexico where they were demanding papers or jail," he said. "That was the option. Either produce your papers or go to jail. So I entered into commerce with them under threat, duress and coercion, and spent 47 hours in there."

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http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5g7kMZTx2vMvJI2mU8MoeQf8jySMQD9FRIOLO0

Mark Potok, who directs hate-group research at the Southern Poverty Law Center, said Kane had not been in the group's database before Thursday. But he said that was not surprising, given the "explosive growth" in the anti-government movement in recent years. With 363 new groups in 2009, there are now 512, Potok said. Members of so-called patriot groups don't recognize the authority of the U.S. government and consider themselves sovereign citizens.
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theophilus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:13 PM
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1. AK is Alaska. Arkansas is AR. Easy mistake, though. n/t
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:15 PM
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2. Thanks!
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Swede Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:17 PM
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3. Aw crap,that kid was 16?
That was a gruesome picture of him laying by the bullet riddled car. His dad was a horrible influence.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:30 PM
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4. Just think what the new textbooks will do.
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wmbrew0206 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:35 PM
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5. Actually, this doesn't suprise me after having a roommate who interned at the DOJ
He said that there are a bunch of people out in the Midwest and Big Sky territory that believe there is some conspiracy about the US mint, the US Reserve, and the Masons. I never did understand the details but these people believe that they don't have to pay taxes due to this conspiracy.
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Kievan Rus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 09:50 PM
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6. Just like the whackjob in Pittsburgh
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guruoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-21-10 10:38 PM
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7. The Knoxville Church killer also planned to have it out with police...
Edited on Fri May-21-10 10:46 PM by guruoo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knoxville_Unitarian_Universalist_church_shooting

On July 27, 2008, a politically motivated<1><2> fatal shooting took place at the Tennessee Valley Unitarian Universalist Church in Knoxville, Tennessee, United States. Motivated by a desire to kill liberals and Democrats, gunman Jim David Adkisson fired a shotgun at members of the congregation during a youth performance of a musical, killing two people and wounding seven others.

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Adkisson's manifesto<11> also cited the inability to find a job, and that his food stamps were being cut. His manifesto stated that he intended to keep shooting until police arrived and expected to be killed by police. Adkisson had a waist satchel with more ammunition, totaling 76 shells of #4 shot.
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jberryhill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:16 AM
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8. And birthers

Jerry Kane promoted the "mortgage relief" scheme of Charles E. Lincoln III, who was Orly Taitz' assistant for a while and wrote many of her raving legal briefs, until her husband demanded she stop seeing him and conducting a peculiar form of treatment in her dental chair.

Really. You just can't make this stuff up.
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phleshdef Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 12:19 AM
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9. One word. Terrorists.
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Scurrilous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 04:03 AM
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10. K & R
:thumbsup:
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat May-22-10 06:02 AM
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11. Jerry Kane did not only kill two cops
and seriously injure two other cops, he is also responsible for his son's death.
Funny how M$Greedia is not covering this one.
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