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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:44 AM Original message |
Krugman on the financial reform bill that the Senate just passed |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. I trust Krugman... |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #1 |
3. This is Krugman's area of expertise, so I think his thumbs up means a lot |
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pampango (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:46 PM Response to Reply #1 |
59. I trust him, too. It will be interesting to see how the Progressive Caucus votes on this when it |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:46 AM Response to Original message |
2. "once President Palin appoints Ron Paul as Treasury Secretary ..." |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 10:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. That cracked me up |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Leadership is a good point. No matter how well laws are written if you allow the Republicans |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. It's not about Republicans |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:08 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. That intellect killing "corporatist" term makes my ears bleed! |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:10 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Well, as they say, the truth hurts. n/t |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. "truth"? |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
28. +100 nt |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #19 |
30. That shouldn't mean too much suffering for you then |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
32. I think for myself. I invite you to try it, I think you might like it. |
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pinboy3niner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #11 |
26. "Politics is the art of the possible" |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #26 |
61. Actually |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #26 |
66. good point |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:13 AM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Agreed, that's a scary thought |
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HillbillyBob (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #2 |
12. That made me shudder. |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
7. "Now, the truth is that we won’t know how good a reform this is until the next crisis" |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. I think Krugman's comments about a "win" shows you are distorting his words rather |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:31 AM Response to Reply #8 |
9. Would you care to address the deficiencies in this bill that I pointed out? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Krugman already has and (unlike you) you he balanced it with all the positives |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:40 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Again, would you care to discuss the matters that I brought up? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:44 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. If you wanted a balanced discussion of the positives and the negatives |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #14 |
17. IE, you are trying to sidestep the issues, |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Hmm a Noble Prize winning economist says the bill is a win |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Well, as you've previously shown, you listen to Krugman only when you want to |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:15 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. I must have missed the part where you explained why I should listen to you |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Trying to twist the words in my mouth so you can try and twist your way out of this, eh? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #34 |
35. What your are trying to do is distort and twist a "win" into a loss |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Thank you for your response, you have now answered my question |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:38 PM Response to Reply #42 |
57. +1000...Nailed It. |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:41 PM Response to Reply #35 |
50. That's a cop-out response to a person trying to get at the heart of the issue. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:44 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I'm thinking someone that has his own OP calling this bill a "dog and pony show" |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:47 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. Saying the bill is "good" or "bad" sort of oversimplifies, and I think, steps on a lot of toes. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 11:59 AM Response to Reply #15 |
16. Krugman did an excellent job of breaking out he pros and the cons |
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Selatius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:13 PM Response to Reply #16 |
24. Of that, I'm in agreement, yet it is rather difficult not to take sides in this argument. |
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JHB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #8 |
25. It's not distorting his words to point out the qualifiers |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Thank you for doing that digging so I didn't have to |
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Flaneur (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 02:22 PM Response to Reply #29 |
62. Totally predictable. The OP is a party line hack, nothing more. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #62 |
65. I am proud to be a Democrat. What party are you affiliated with? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:53 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. snort! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #25 |
58. Oh SMACK.... |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
40. Yes. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:30 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. Did you agree with him when he declared health care reform a great victory? |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:33 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. Nope, butI didn't blacklist him, either. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:31 PM Response to Reply #47 |
56. You mean sources like Glenn Beck, Free Republic, Rush Limbaugh |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
22. How many posts have you made citing Krugman when he disagrees with Obama? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. Some people like Krugman have adjusted their views in light of the facts |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:23 PM Response to Reply #31 |
36. IE, he now agrees with your POV, so all's good |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #36 |
39. Well I could point out you are doing the exact same thing |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #39 |
46. Really? Find a post of mine where I throw Krugman under the bus in the same manner you have |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #46 |
53. It took you long enough to realize I wouldn't get sucked in |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #31 |
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mmonk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
33. While I usually don't think much of Lincoln, |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:30 PM Response to Reply #33 |
69. She did the right thing for the wrong reasons. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
37. I thought Krugman was on you guys' no-no list? |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:27 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. Krugman adjusted his views in light of events and new facts |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:35 PM Response to Reply #43 |
48. If he needs bashing, I'm sure Krugman will supply what's needed. |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:24 PM Response to Original message |
38. Amazing how much Krugman has learned in the last 18 months or so. |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #38 |
44. Have you considered following his example? He adjusted his mistaken views on the President |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #44 |
49. LOL! |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. It appears you are not listening |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:31 PM Response to Original message |
55. See this is why policy based politics trumps personality driven politics |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #55 |
60. This is a good example of the ability to see both the good and the bad |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. Is there some policy area you think I won't touch? Let's roll it out and see |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 02:55 PM Response to Reply #63 |
64. To flush out your fire and glass of water analogy |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:27 PM Response to Reply #64 |
68. What's the issue I'm avoiding? I'll toss the water too but I don't claim the fire is out |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 09:48 PM Response to Reply #68 |
74. No what you describe as a purist is the definition of a pragmatist |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
67. Kick |
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backscatter712 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:34 PM Response to Original message |
70. There's a lot of focus amendments that didn't make it, but there's a lot of good stuff that did. |
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TheKentuckian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 03:45 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. Audit the Fed's scope was greatly reduced and the derivatives enforcement was stripped |
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NJmaverick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #70 |
73. yes, yes there is |
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Stinky The Clown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-21-10 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
72. Kick again |
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