Official Oil Spill Media Blackout Thread.

[Bonobo]

Beaches Blocked from Reporters

Post here. Keep kicked.

This will be picked up by Google and will be found by many people searching google with the above or similar words in the OP's title.

The Media is not doing their job. We must be the media.

Let's start a MEGA THREAD! We will keep it going and anytime a blogger, passerby or anonymous person posts something about lack of media coverage, I want you all to post it here.

http://motherjones.com/mojo/2010/05/crude-oil-reaches-beaches-louisiana-gulf-bp-spill-transocean

Post here. Keep kicked.

[flamingdem]

1. I posted the same + agree, we have to help get the news out

a news black out would hasten our doom right now.

If we have any hope on this I think it rests with people staying focused on this and creating noise.

Blogging from the site is needed.

[voteearlyvoteoften]

29. Flaming Dem you are right on target

As Always :)

[flamingdem]

52. !!!

:toast:

[Whoa_Nelly]

2. and CBS vid link

Being told "...it's BP's rules..." :wtf:

Since when does BP make the rules? Who GAVE BP any kind of authority such as this? :grr:

http://www.fastcompany.com/1650209/why-did-a-boat-of-bp-contractors-and-coast-guard-officers-threaten-to-arrest-investigative-r

[Stardust]

11. Where the hell is Obama? Why does he seem mostly concerned about

liability instead of the disastrous consequences of the "spill?" A full month has gone by, I'd like to see him livid with these guys and the unspeakable damage they've wrought.

[rudy23]

35. He's on their team. He's not going to get livid at anybody. n/t

[Stardust]

70. Sadly, I fear you may be right. nt

[defendandprotect]

82. Obama is one of our major problems on this and off-shore drilling . . ..

I'm really disgusted with this and nuclear crap --

We really need a more liberal/progressive Dem candidate to run in 2012 --

Any suggestions?

That is if there is anything left of this planet by 2012!!!???

[amborin]

3. K&R

[time_has_come]

4. If the media isn't doing their job....

...how did you find out about the beaches blocked from reporters thing?
Did you watch Anderson Cooper grill the BP guy?
Are we not seeing story after story of the discrepancy between the BP (and personal Coast Guard) 5000 barrel estimate and the more likely truth?

I agree the media could have done more, and focused more on the flow rate, but a "blackout"?

Can't agree with that. Or that we can replace/be the media. We need them...let's keep pushing them to ask the questions we want answered. That's their job, and they'll do it.

[Bonobo]

8. Proportionality. Proportionality. Proportionality.

There is none.

No media reports about reporters being blocked. It dropped down the memory hole.

Only BLOGS report about the coast guard taking orders from BP?

Do you NOT UNDERSTAND the seriousness of this?

It is treason for a branch of the Armed Forces to be placed under the power of another entity.

I know it is not as serious as Apple having a no-cash policy, but still...

[time_has_come]

9. Actually the media being blocked reported it...and I read it in at least one other media source...

...if you're going to get upset, that's fantastic. There's plenty to get upset about. But I beg you to check your facts...legitimate outrage coupled with bad facts diminishes the outrage, which is a f'n tragedy when the outrage is required.

[Bonobo]

12. I know my facts.

The "media report" you cited amounted to about one sentence, 5 seconds of highly edited video and not even a blink of a pretty eyelash or a follow-up question from Katy Couric.

After the Coast Guard made their lame statement in response, no further discussion was made.

Check your own facts, You clearly are not in command of them.

[time_has_come]

13. First you claim a blackout, now you admit it's reported but complain that Couric didn't say more

about it. It was reported. That's the media's job, and they did it. You claimed they didn't, and so yeah, you had your facts wrong.

It was also covered by the WP:

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/video/2010/05/18/VI2010051804651.html

Push it, certainly. It's out there though, contrary to your claim, and I'll bet you anything it will show up in MSM more.

"Media blackout" ...as if all the MSM is colluding to hide information. Pishaw. BP is hiding, the media are piranhas, dying to report the worst.

[Name removed]

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[reggie the dog]

27. under reporting is worse than not reporting

it sends the simpletons the message that the coast guard taking orders from bp is no big deal

[Bonobo]

30. That is exactly what I wrote in the -ahem- deleted sub-thread.

I was responding to a real moran and I guess I wasn't very "nice" to it.

[Enthusiast]

56. I share your anger. nt

[SalviaBlue]

42. The media is there to rehabilitate the message.

They acknowledge there is a concern then they dismiss it and move on and act like its over.

When there are things that we should outraged about, they are ho-hum, they are there to defuse our outrage.

[Bonobo]

72. 100% true.

That is part of their function.

[rhett o rick]

75. So you support BP? You dont think the media is complicite? Whose side are you on?

Do you think BP should be required to pay for ALL THE FUCKING CLEAN UP?

[time_has_come]

15. "highly edited video" LOL. How was it edited?

You mean when they added in the text of the damning comment from the Coast Guard guy?

[Bonobo]

17. No, I mean where they show one line from the BP guy and the reported talks over the rest.

I'm sorry, did I say the rest? They hardly showed ANY of the encounter. Or did you see a different video than this one?

The video showing the boat with BP/Coast Guard for just 8 seconds The reporter talks over most of it and only one sentence from the "BP guy" (if he is one) is even audible.

Why not show the rest? Did the reporters object?

Why is that not news? You are being disingenuous (or dense).

[Bonobo]

19. Wrong place. Delete.

[redqueen]

38. *crickets*

Sad to see that level of denial here.

[liberation]

61. My advice: Do not feed him or her (or it?)...

It is clear some people have an agenda... esp. the "coyer" they play.

It is the typical "what is wrong with having cake for breakfast, lunch, and dinner?" approach to debate.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

62. A comic poet working in obscene doggerel n/t

[Supersedeas]

the contemporary journalism model is directed at entertainment first (celebrity agendas)

[truedelphi]

69. You cannot expect the truth about the oil spill during the same

Week when there is a warrant out for Lindsay Lohan!!!

There are only so many things a centralized Media can cover!

[Stardust]

5. I'm watching it slowly but surely dropping off the front page news.

It was even #5 on Countdown tonite. Hard to believe that interest wanes as the crisis worsens. Sigh...

[Cetacea]

16. Anderson Cooper is staying with it. Big time. Mike Malloy as well.

Highly recommend.

[Bonobo]

18. I do not live in the US and cannot watch.

Is he also covering the fact that reporters are not being allowed access?

Is he reporting that scientific research is being squelched?

[Cetacea]

21. I'm fairly certain CNN has.

I haven't caught his reports in their entirety to know whether or not he handled the CBS story, but I am almost sure he has. He seems to cover most of the best topics discussed here.
Still, I've noticed an overall drop in ALL oil spill related stories on google news.
It may pick up again now that the EPA is getting more involved and we will be sending in our own people to measure the flow.
I suggest that everyone check youtube as well for independent accounts of people being turned away by police and/or BP.

[Cetacea]

24. nm

[time_has_come]

25. oh, so you start an "official" media "blackout" thread on the CBS thing...

...claiming that the media is ignoring it completely, but you don't live in the "US and cannot watch"

Need me to keep you up to date?

This is just empty incitement.

[N_E_1 for Tennis]

63. Once again you are a comic poet working in obscene doggerel n/t

[Grinchie]

85. Science that isn't bought and paid for is usually squelched.

For example, the US Navy has state of the art submersibles that routinely descend to 5000 feet and deeper is support of the Military players, yet the majority of American are oblivious of this fact, like it's some sort of great secret.

Add to that the fact that the Media doesn't raise the existence of the technological ability of the Military and ask them why they are not using this in time of National Emergency, and it's no wonder so many people are pissed off.

If Glenn Beck or Rush Limbaugh refuse to mention it, it doesn't exist. If they do mention it, no matter how blatantly false, the majority of American crave more like a heroin addict.

The MSM is owned and operated by Corporate America, with subsidiarys in the Chief PR Office of the White Houte and their "Spokesperson" Obama and his DLC Corporate handlers and lackeys.

[Hekate]

6. Kick. Don't forget to keep Rachel in the loop. She's been doing a great job.

:kick:

[Kalyke]

7. I am a trained reporter and worked as one for 10 years.

It sickens me that the coverage of this mess is so light.

However, with all the beaches blocked, one can't just go and flash a pass. Time to act all touristy.

[Cetacea]

22. "Act touristy". Point -and-shoots work very well for that.

I've found them to be highly useful in that capacity.

[daughter of liberty2]

10. I wish somebody could get a plane up there again.

How can we know what's happening if they won't let anyone fly over? :mad:

[Name removed]

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[Petrushka]

23. Thanks for the link.

:kick:

[gimama]

26. thank YOU.

Also ck out
www.facebook.com/SaveTheGulfofMexico

Also suggest the c-span,I watched the House hearings last night,all night,
dems were righteously outraged & out-spoken..
& it was surprising to see some of the republikkers
really insisting on accountability from McKay(bp) & others.

[voteearlyvoteoften]

28. rec

[1955doubledie]

31. K&R

:kick:

[1955doubledie]

32. K&R

:kick:

[Bonobo]

33. Welcome to DU!!!

:hi: :hi: :hi: :hi: :hi:

[Generic Other]

34. K&R

Maddening!!!

[proudohioan]

36. K&R! n/t

[laughingliberal]

37. K & R nt

[valerief]

39. Well, this is Duhmerica, after all. Our owners shield from bad news unless it's terror-related. nt

[HCE SuiGeneris]

55. I feel terrorized. Good thing we're protected though!

:hangover:

[paparush]

40. Lab Analyzing Spill has Large Contract with BP

Hundreds of millions of dollars are at stake, since those readings will be used by the federal government and courts to establish liability claims against BP. But the laboratory that officials have chosen to process virtually all of the samples is part of an oil and gas services company in Texas that counts oil firms, including BP, among its biggest clients.

Some people are questioning the independence of the Texas lab. Taylor Kirschenfeld, an environmental official for Escambia County, Fla., rebuffed instructions from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration to send water samples to the lab, which is based at TDI-Brooks International in College Station, Tex. He opted instead to get a waiver so he could send his county’s samples to a local laboratory that is licensed to do the same tests.

Mr. Kirschenfeld said he was also troubled by another rule. Local animal rescue workers have volunteered to help treat birds affected by the slick and to collect data that would also be used to help calculate penalties for the spill. But federal officials have told the volunteers that the work must be done by a company hired by BP.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/05/21/science/earth/21conflict.html?partner=rss&emc=rss

[closeupready]

47. Conflict of interest? What's that?

:mad:

[paparush]

49. Shocking, I know.

We, the common folk, are completely and utterly screwed.

[malaise]

41. K & R

for truth

[pleah]

43. K&R

[jillan]

44. Proud to Kick!

[Oldtimeralso]

45. K & R and proud to help the truth to be revealed. n/t

[Scruffy1]

46. K&R

[punkin87]

48. kick

[Subdivisions]

50. Chad Myers on CNN a little while ago

stated to Ali Velshi that "there is not oil getting into the Loop Current" and he said that the streamer (or tail) of oil stretching into the Loop Current has dissipated and is not longer there. He also said that the oil collecting on the stalks of marsh grass is not harmful and that the oil is only harmful if it gets into the roots of the plantlife. He said we have to be careful not to kill the marine bacteria that consume oil from natural seepage with the chemical dispersants being sprayed to break up the oil.

[harun]

59. Wow, that is egregious bullsh*t, even for them.

[Subdivisions]

66. Yup, pretty much what I thought. A thoroughly disgusting and infuriating display. n/t

[Recursion]

51. Google news has a link to 6,677 articles on their front page

That's a "blackout"?

[JDPriestly]

53. The Austrian Press reported on this story.

http://derstandard.at/1271377202168/Kilometerweit-kein-Leben-mehr-an-Louisianas-Kueste

I don't need to translate. It is nothing new. The article quotes the statements from Jindal about the damages to Louisiana.

[HCE SuiGeneris]

54. The damage, does not go away...

http://www.boston.com/lifestyle/green/articles/2010/05/21/gulf_oil_spill_revives_capes_1969_nightmare/

[DoBotherMe]

57. k&r n/t

[joeybee12]

58. KNR!

[Paper Roses]

60. I am frustrated with the coverage. We know we're not getting the story.

This is a catastrophe of life changing proportions and we, the people who will be effected, are being snowballed by our government,the media and BP. I demand to know the real story but know I will never hear or see it.

The world is angry with us and, as I read, this mess may spread to Europe? Good grief, more and more good news for those of us footing the bill.

[kiers]

77. Imagine ! the effects of a little warm water in the Pacific

creates the massive weather disruption called "el nino". Imagine what this oil spill will do. the oceans around the US and eastern seaboard will be DEAD!!! DEAD. Imagine the unintended knock-on effects/ramifications!

Youch.

[fl_dem]

64. K & R

[Turbineguy]

65. This well is expected to contain only 50 million barrels.

So if the cost of this blowout ends up at $5 billion and they somehow save the well, BP is looking at $100 per barrel cost, in the ground. Plus drilling, second drilling, plus production....

Normally, the value of oil like this is pegged at $15 per barrel, in the ground. This is top value. Depending on various factors (geopolitical, infrastructure, etc.).

The size of the well may explain the shortcuts they seem to have taken.

Compare this to the cost of about $23 per barrel of Iraqi oil added by Bush attacking the country.

[Decoy of Fenris]

67. Kay Enn Are. Enn / tee.

[dgibby]

68. It's not that the media isn't doing their job,

it's that BP and the govt aren't allowing them access in order for them to do their jobs.

[defendandprotect]

83. And, if this is all we're getting on a HUGE oil well spilling into Gulf . . .

and other one in the Gulf -- Atlantis? -- also in trouble there but 10X bigger --

Imagine how well the nuclear industry is doing????!!!

106 nuclear power plants, aging, poorly maintained -- targets for terrorists!!

Takes 6 months to shut down a nuclear power plant properly.

[scentopine]

71. kick'n it.

[neverforget]

73. How about $1 billion per day fine until the oil volcano is stopped?

A little motivation for that smug BP CEO.....And get rid of the tax breaks and subsidies for the corporations......one can dream I guess....

[defendandprotect]

84. We have to NATIONALIZE oil industry . . . FDR should have done it . . .

LBJ, whom he consulted, advised him not to do it.

The Democratic Platform which JFK ran on called for the NATIONALIZING of the
oil industry --

and JFK was ending oil depletion allowance --

[WillyT]

74. HUGE K & R !!!

:patriot:

:kick:

[kiers]

76. you see Rand paul cashing in his campaign

Contributions on DAY 1 post primary!!!

[lonestarnot]

78. K & R!

[Imagevision]

79. Obama is beginning to display his much resected leadership qualities that got him elected

Obama in favor of bailing out Wall St. and screw Main St. and once the gas prices start to get back up to $4.00+ per gallon we may see a relationship to the Bush/style of leadership. My daddy once told me, "big business founded this country and it will always run this country no matter who the president is.

[Just-plain-Kathy]

80. K&R

[lib2DaBone]

81. Problem Reaction Solution

Shutting off the oil volcano is not one of their first priorities.