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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:41 AM Original message |
Haunting pro-abortion piece in LA Times: aborting two of four fetuses |
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SoCalDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:46 AM Response to Original message |
1. I'm sorry, but doctors should never implant more than 2 |
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colinmom71 (616 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:51 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. With IVF, it's a little different from other fertility treatments... |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 06:25 AM Response to Reply #1 |
7. That's pretty much the law in the UK - 2 for those under 40, 3 for those over |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:20 AM Response to Reply #1 |
14. I can't judge people who implant more than 2 |
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Big Pappa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 11:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
55. If |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:49 AM Response to Original message |
2. It didn't say viable |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
17. yep, and I acknowledged what blastocysts are at start of post. I wouldn't hold a bill frist |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
3. Thank you for posting this... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:35 PM Response to Reply #3 |
15. I wouldn't ban them from doing this, but there is something kind of ugly about it |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 04:32 PM Response to Reply #15 |
29. Na Du... Direct but non-confontational question |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:33 PM Response to Reply #29 |
42. No. If I had kids, I'd be happier with girls--at least from 0 to puberty and 30 to death |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 09:16 PM Response to Reply #42 |
48. I hope you weren't offended by my question. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 09:22 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. it's hard to insult guys. Most of the time when guys say they are insulted, they're lying to give |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:35 AM Response to Original message |
4. I'm with you on this one . . . |
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fasttense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 06:19 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well, better they make the choice |
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Tesha (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 07:48 AM Response to Original message |
8. "Selective reduction" is a standard feature of fertility treatments. (NT) |
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Zomby Woof (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 07:56 AM Response to Original message |
9. It was a pro-CHOICE piece |
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OmmmSweetOmmm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:09 AM Response to Reply #9 |
13. Thank you! I was just going to say the same exact thing. eom |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:42 PM Response to Reply #9 |
16. I am pro-choice on smoking, alcohol, and pot, and anti-choice on handguns |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 01:05 AM Response to Reply #16 |
79. "Most are about convenience." |
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Sadie4629 (919 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 03:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. "his wife would have died and ... end of story." |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:04 AM Response to Reply #26 |
62. She ended up in the hospital, very sick, because of this pregnancy |
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Madspirit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 12:42 AM Response to Reply #9 |
77. Thank-you ZombyWoof |
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Skinner ADMIN (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 07:57 AM Response to Original message |
10. Put me down as someone who believes they did absolutely the right thing. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:48 PM Response to Reply #10 |
18. all of that can be true, but the consequences of the choice could be what I imagined |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:57 PM Response to Reply #10 |
20. As someone who has been through fertility treatment, thank you for your thoughtful post. |
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RC Quake (202 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:14 PM Response to Reply #20 |
73. Congrats to you on your successful IUI! |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:12 AM Response to Reply #10 |
63. Bless you, Skinner, for your thoughtful input |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 07:58 AM Response to Original message |
11. It's very high-risk to have quads or higher |
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GoneOffShore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:07 AM Response to Original message |
12. It was a pro-CHOICE piece and count me in as a supporter of their actions. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 01:48 PM Response to Original message |
19. maybe I seen this differently as a past candidate for fetal reduction from 1 to 0 |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:34 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. My mother attempted to terminate me... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 04:04 PM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Jesus! which method did she try? |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 09:01 PM Response to Reply #28 |
47. She worked along with my father... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 09:49 PM Response to Reply #47 |
51. a lot of problems could be avoided if women walked on by the asshats |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:25 PM Response to Reply #19 |
35. We all have egos and survival instincts |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:23 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. I didn't say ban it. pro-choice makes the mirror opposite mistake as pro-lifers |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:39 PM Response to Reply #40 |
43. Who did that? |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 09:47 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. read something besides bumper stickers. Like this New York Times piece or Guttmacher stats |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 10:49 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. 20 weeks is not 8 months |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 10:58 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. so you oppose abortion in the third trimester? That would seem to support my original point |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 11:10 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. No I don't support women dying |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 12:58 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. daily? I post on this about once a year. Why do you need to say it's not done in third |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 01:56 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. Once a year? |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
75. well ta for the link |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 12:33 AM Response to Reply #59 |
76. post a link and don't just assert it. most of your google results have nothing to do with abortion |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 01:03 AM Response to Reply #76 |
78. "did you read ... |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:22 PM Response to Reply #52 |
74. just fyi |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 03:10 PM Response to Reply #50 |
72. give this one up, will you? |
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Hobarticus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:01 PM Response to Original message |
21. Fully support their right to make this choice, which may not even be a "choice" |
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Hell Hath No Fury (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:43 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Some people get truly overcome by... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:04 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. It's ironic that very educated women (and their spouses) ignore some basic biology |
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stirlingsliver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
24. Stem Cells |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:24 PM Response to Reply #24 |
41. I don't think the stem cell route is an option after implantation, otherwise, I'd agree. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 02:53 PM Response to Original message |
25. pro choice piece, not a pro abortion. rw serves up pro abortion, not the issue |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #25 |
31. then you don't disagree with my original post. |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:20 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. i wouldnt make the same choices all the way around firstly. BUT i am |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. did I say I judge them? I just said I had a reaction and I would be more uncomfortable in their |
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truebrit71 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 03:10 PM Response to Original message |
27. NO-ONE IS PRO-ABORTION. IT'S PRO-CHOICE. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:02 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. I don't like either term myself. One is inaccurate and the other is a euphemism |
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AuntPatsy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
33. it isn't my business. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:18 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. who said it was? I just said the story made me uncomfortable. a lot of people seem to be unable to |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 05:30 PM Response to Original message |
36. to OP: Judge not lest you be judged. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:17 PM Response to Reply #36 |
38. I agree with your mom, but you seemed to not comprehend the first half of her statement |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:46 PM Response to Reply #38 |
45. I did comprehend her whole statement |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:41 PM Response to Original message |
44. Personally, that was one of the reasons we didn't go so far |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 11:00 PM Response to Reply #44 |
54. I didn't think nuance would be so controversial here |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 11:16 PM Response to Reply #44 |
57. You appear to have been educated |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 06:42 AM Response to Reply #57 |
65. I think the medical community needs to be better educated |
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sandnsea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 12:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. Well how do I know it's likely then |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 01:01 PM Response to Reply #65 |
70. The move toward fewer embies in IVF transfer happened a number of |
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moc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 12:57 PM Response to Reply #57 |
69. Doctors aren't always upfront with patients about SR |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 02:31 PM Response to Reply #69 |
71. Yes, I agree. That was my experience, as well |
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undeterred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-07-07 08:46 PM Response to Original message |
46. unlimited implantation can be a kind of drug abuse |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 02:32 AM Response to Original message |
60. This, folks, is NOT a pro-choice/anti-choice issue |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 02:52 AM Response to Original message |
61. Lessee: they tried & failed to get pregnant before; she ended up in the hospital; they would ALL die |
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rasputin1952 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 04:20 AM Response to Original message |
64. This couple seems to be far more aware than most people |
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RetroLounge (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 12:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. This is a PRO-CHOICE article! |
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iverglas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-08-07 12:57 PM Response to Original message |
68. "it had a very different effect on me." |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-09-07 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
80. Look, we get it, you don't give a shit about woman's health... |
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