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AllentownJake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:21 AM
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My definition of a liberal
Lot of argument of the liberal thing.

“You see things; and you say, ‘Why?’ But I dream things that never were; and I say, ‘Why not?’"
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 09:54 AM
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1. Liberals acknowledge that there are structural obstacles to success in our society
and that it is the responsibility of the government to help fix them.

Conservatives think that - no matter what the circumstances - if you work hard you will succeed and if you succeed you are deserving.
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Myrina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:16 AM
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2. Or ...
http://www.liberalparty.org/JFKLPAcceptance.html


"If by "Liberal" they mean, as they want people to believe, someone who is soft in his policies abroad, who is against local government, and who is unconcerned with the taxpayer's dollar, then the record of this party and its members demonstrate that we are not that kind of "Liberal." But if by a "Liberal" they mean someone who looks ahead and not behind, someone who welcomes new ideas without rigid reactions, someone who cares about the welfare of the people -- their health, their housing, their schools, their jobs, their civil rights, and their civil liberties -- someone who believes we can break through the stalemate and suspicions that grip us in our policies abroad, if that is what they mean by a "Liberal," then I'm proud to say I'm a "Liberal."
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:32 AM
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3. "Pragmatists" don't say "why not"
They presume they already know why not. Are they liberalS?
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Solomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:34 AM
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4. Of course not. Liberals can only be what Allentown says
they are. That's it. The tent's getting smaller and smaller.
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:39 AM
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5. "The tent's getting smaller and smaller."
I, for one, look forward to a party that actually stands for something.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:40 AM
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6. You just summed up things perfectly!
:applause:
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Uzybone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:40 AM
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7. eventually it'll be the size of a port a potty
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:45 AM
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10. and the similarities will not end with size comparisons
:-)
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:42 AM
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8. Are the corporate toadies leaving finally?
There ain't enough room in the tent for folks trying to sell the poles and stakes to the overlords living in mansions just so they can sell them back to us with a mark up.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 10:44 AM
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9. It could be those crying are imagining that, while they are actually on the outside
Edited on Tue May-18-10 10:59 AM by NJmaverick
building their own tiny tent and declaring anyone outside it, non-liberals
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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-18-10 11:12 AM
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11. Whatever is clever but something must have stung to get your two cents
thanks for bumping that's mighty pragmatic of ya.

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