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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:19 PM Original message |
Why do married people pay substantially less taxes than Single people or unmarried couples ? |
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U4ikLefty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:21 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oh yeah!!! |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. This too is a sensitive topic at DU ? jeez , what's not ? |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:24 PM Response to Original message |
3. You have a good point. I would like to hear (read) the counter argument. nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:25 PM Response to Original message |
4. The world is dangerously underpopulated, so we must |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:26 PM Response to Original message |
5. I agree but this may well incite the "fifth rail" kind of arguments |
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Greyhound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:19 PM Response to Reply #5 |
54. Just about our entire social structure and mores are based on 19th century ignorance and |
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WeDidIt (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
6. Tax code has always been used to drive social agendas. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. And they were created when it was assumed there was only |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:24 AM Response to Reply #10 |
29. That makes sense. nt |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
7. Go for it, marry your roomy, enjoy all that extra money. nt |
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UndertheOcean (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:43 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. But that would be fraud :) |
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bemildred (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:55 PM Response to Reply #13 |
17. Only if you really didn't mean it. |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #13 |
26. How is it fraud? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:38 AM Response to Reply #26 |
30. Bazinga! |
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westerebus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
8. Compensation. |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:32 PM Response to Original message |
9. same reason some married couples pay substantially MORE than some unmarried couples |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
11. it is a government subsidy for the institution of marriage. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #11 |
49. And you illustrate exactly why some politicians oppose gay marriage. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:42 PM Response to Original message |
12. they don't always |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. I don't believe this. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:15 AM Response to Reply #16 |
22. If a husband and wife both make 30,000 |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 08:46 AM Response to Reply #22 |
45. Yup. I can attest. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 03:14 PM Response to Reply #22 |
57. That is where it matter. The larger the disparity between incomes the more "marrigage tax cut". |
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yodoobo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
27. definitely true |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
19. to even have the option is unfair. |
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fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #19 |
24. in those years, we still paid more than we would have if we were single |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 07:10 AM Response to Reply #19 |
40. Married filing separately is rarely a savings |
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Sgent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 07:53 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. Married Filing Separately (MFS) |
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Junkie Brewster (301 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 06:08 AM Response to Reply #12 |
39. Amen. I'm married and we have to file married but separately |
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Liberal In Texas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:52 PM Response to Original message |
14. Duh. The tax codes were pretty much set up by cons. You know, the conservitves of the world. |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 11:53 PM Response to Original message |
15. Probably because they are doing God's work. |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:00 AM Response to Original message |
18. The deductions for kids is unfair too. Why should others help pay for their lifestyle choices? |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:22 AM Response to Reply #18 |
25. I think after three kids there shouldnt be any deductions... |
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tritsofme (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 03:08 AM Response to Reply #18 |
37. So the kids can grow up and help finance your lifestyle choice |
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Robb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 08:47 AM Response to Reply #37 |
46. LOL +1 nt |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:54 PM Response to Reply #37 |
47. Fine with me for them to not pay for it provided I no longer have to pay for their education |
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Ikonoklast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:16 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. And who paid for YOUR education? |
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RB TexLa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
52. I said I wasn't talking about the funding of social programs. I was talking |
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Tunkamerica (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
20. i agree |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:11 AM Response to Original message |
21. Cause Married People & Families Spend More Money... |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:17 AM Response to Reply #21 |
35. No they don't. |
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KharmaTrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:29 AM Response to Reply #35 |
36. A Family Of 4 Spends More On Taxes... |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 11:50 AM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Nobody said you can't apply. Just don't expect any because the floor is |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 04:20 PM Response to Reply #48 |
59. Tax rate isn't lower for a married couple compared to 2 working singles. |
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Raineyb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 04:49 PM Response to Reply #59 |
62. What are you talking about. The tax rate IS lower. |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #62 |
63. Generally the govt looks at household income |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #35 |
56. Not true if both people are working which is the vast majority of households. n/t |
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Jack_DeLeon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
23. They dont... |
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marybourg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
28. This is actually a very interesting and nearly intractable problem |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:41 AM Response to Original message |
31. Why do you hate America? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
32. The lower tax for married couples may be a leftover from the time |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:52 AM Response to Original message |
33. They don't always. There is a marriage TAX on couples who make similar incomes -- |
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Electric Monk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:03 AM Response to Original message |
34. I've been thinking about marrying my best friend for tax purposes |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 04:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
60. What tax purposes? n/t |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 05:47 AM Response to Original message |
38. Because married people are more likely to vote, as are homeowners, hence the mortgage deduction. |
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dems_rightnow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 07:34 AM Response to Reply #38 |
41. Not sure why you think no other countries get a mortgage interest deduction |
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Captain Hilts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 07:36 AM Response to Reply #41 |
42. The UK and Canada do not. Folks in Canada buy houses anyway. We don't need to |
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seabeyond (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
44. if i were to get a job, i wouldnt make nearly what hubby does, but would be taxed in his bracket |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:21 PM Response to Original message |
51. Where is this tax break for being married? |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:04 PM Response to Reply #51 |
53. The income has to be high, but it's possible |
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Statistical (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 03:06 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. Even at $200K combined income there isn't always a "marriage break". |
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MajorChode (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. Which is why I said it's possible |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
61. It's because historically (when the tax code was written) |
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tinymontgomery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
64. Same reason |
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WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:50 PM Response to Original message |
65. Because they're more equal than others, especially if they have kids nt |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:52 PM Response to Original message |
66. Guess what happens when you marry your roomie, though. |
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