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marmar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:14 PM Original message |
Sacramento Bee: Schwarzenegger budget would eliminate welfare |
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skeptical cynic (404 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:22 PM Response to Original message |
1. Stop the wars! |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
10. Just curious |
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MattBaggins (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:28 PM Response to Reply #10 |
17. All of them? |
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Vinca (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
2. What, exactly, is a disabled person supposed to do if their care giver |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. Yes. The answer IS "die." |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #5 |
19. He's a lame duck! Can't he go out with dignity? |
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Politicalboi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Well he did give them |
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indepat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 06:46 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. Now, now, welfare to the wealthy and large corporations, no matter in what form, is off the table |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:40 AM Response to Reply #2 |
29. they're supposed to DIE, get with the program. the banksters MUST BE PAID. |
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Shallah Kali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
66. Where are the right to life people when shit like this happens? |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:27 PM Response to Original message |
3. We need majority rule back in California so that taxes can be raised. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. You mean higher than they are now? No thanks. |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 09:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
24. Tell me who you would like to lay off |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #24 |
25. Tell me whose taxes you'd raise. |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 09:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
35. They can raise plenty of taxes through legalized marijuana. |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 06:15 PM Response to Reply #35 |
52. because people are going to pay taxes on weed... |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 10:33 AM Response to Reply #52 |
72. Wanna bet? |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #72 |
77. have you ever lived near an indian reservation? |
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crikkett (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon May-17-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #77 |
84. it's not the same |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:11 PM Response to Reply #25 |
56. I would raise the tax on the top income bracket |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:34 PM Response to Reply #56 |
76. Earningsover $44,055 are already taxed at 9.55% |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 09:23 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. honestly- what are you doing on DU? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 09:28 PM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I'm all for raising the income tax on the $1 million plus people, however |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #25 |
61. the unions |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:04 AM Response to Reply #61 |
63. WTF does that have to do with anything? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:43 AM Response to Reply #8 |
30. shocking!! the state employs .5% of its population to run the state & all its facilities, |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 09:33 AM Response to Reply #30 |
33. Bullshit. See link. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #33 |
39. you told me california has 210,000 employees, i did the math. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. Yup...when the facts are against you, assail the source |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:05 PM Response to Reply #41 |
42. you're complaining about state taxes & citing a source that combines state & local taxes. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
50. Yeah, it does have that many, and there should be fewer. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #50 |
57. "there should be fewer" -- why? |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #57 |
59. CA marginal income tax rate is 9.3% at $44K AGI |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:24 AM Response to Reply #3 |
27. exactly. no entity with any sort of sovereignty hamstrings itself this much and survives |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. Your professor obviously is not aware of the conditions that led to Proposition 13 |
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Johonny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 11:17 AM Response to Reply #34 |
38. Yeah crazy I got mine people voted in terrible law over tax paranoia |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 01:45 PM Response to Reply #38 |
43. IT WAS NOT "TAX PARANOA"! My parents' house got reassessed six times in eight years |
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Bennyboy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:04 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. True but.. |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
47. It was a bad idea then and still is |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #34 |
53. Without proposition 13 there is no way I could have remained in California |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #34 |
55. wrong proposition. i'm talking about the recent prop related @ 2/3 req. to raise taxes. |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:03 AM Response to Reply #34 |
62. exactly |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #27 |
36. CA is middle-of-the-road in property tax receipts, despite Prop 13 |
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Bluenorthwest (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:18 PM Response to Reply #36 |
48. Not for you who 'flip' and move every week |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 05:13 PM Response to Reply #48 |
49. Your comment makes no sense nt |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:28 PM Response to Original message |
4. What a b*****d. Hurt the worst-off, the infirm, and the elderly, in this state of billionaires. |
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Mojeoux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:33 PM Response to Reply #4 |
18. Here here!! |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #4 |
26. He always goes after the people who would have the hardest time |
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Lyric (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 04:36 PM Response to Original message |
7. My god...think of all the impoverished children in California. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
9. He's the biggest f*ckstick ever. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is just part of a game that gets played in every state government |
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political_Dem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
13. Reading those comments in The Bee made my head spin. They were pretty disgusting. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. they don't care |
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nomorenomore08 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #15 |
79. "It's come to the point"? Not really. |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:16 PM Response to Original message |
14. a sample of the comments there: |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
21. After a while, the hate gets you down. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:50 AM Response to Reply #21 |
31. it really does. these are americans? they sound like nazis to me. |
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elehhhhna (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:38 PM Response to Reply #14 |
80. No! Arnold's implements Eugenics program via budget policy? |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
16. This budget will be rejected by the legislature. Voucher follies resume in June |
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Duer 157099 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
20. Like the people are not already distressed enough |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:55 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. "So yeah, go ahead and create MORE desperate people in this state." |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri May-14-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
23. So will that end corporate welfare as well or just aid to poor people? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:52 AM Response to Reply #23 |
32. lol. Mr. Intel got his property tax break. |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:37 AM Response to Original message |
28. dust bowl here we come. "move on, move on, no work here!" |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 03:54 PM Response to Reply #28 |
44. . |
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Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:53 AM Response to Reply #44 |
69. We should put that sign up on our border with Mexico |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:26 PM Response to Reply #69 |
74. You're not going to drag me into your "illegals" rant. |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 10:41 AM Response to Original message |
37. Wonder how far that $9 billion lawsuit against Enron would have gone? |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:32 AM Response to Reply #37 |
58. +100. down the memory hole. |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:55 AM Response to Reply #37 |
60. Less than half of one year's deficit, or can't you do arithmetic? |
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laughingliberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 02:16 AM Response to Reply #60 |
67. Still $9 billion they don't have right now. And the article cites the following: |
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Dreamer Tatum (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:39 AM Response to Reply #67 |
68. Then anyone carping about CA deficits should stipulate that Enron |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #37 |
64. don't forget the vehicle licensing fee |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 12:43 PM Response to Original message |
40. It won't take long for the state to figure out how BAD of an idea it is to cut off your nose |
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Ramulux (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 04:12 PM Response to Original message |
46. Such a fucking terrible idea |
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Manifestor_of_Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 05:55 PM Response to Reply #46 |
51. It's the prison-industrial complex, making money off of crime. |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 10:41 AM Response to Reply #46 |
73. It's just unbelievable |
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Change Happens (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat May-15-10 07:25 PM Response to Original message |
54. When does he leave office? |
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shanti (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 01:15 AM Response to Reply #54 |
65. not a day too soon! |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 08:58 AM Response to Original message |
70. Prop 13 is kicking their ass.. |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #70 |
71. It's only been the law of of the land in California for 32 years |
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Sen. Walter Sobchak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #70 |
78. Without proposition 13 I would have been out on my ass |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
75. Social dissolution coming soon to a theater near you. n/t |
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Juche (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun May-16-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
82. Single payer health care would save California $343.6 billion over 10 years |
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