CDC Homicide Stats

[Warren Stupidity]

"The majority of homicides involved a single victim. Multiple decedent homicides and homicide-suicide incidents accounted for <3% of violent deaths. The majority of homicides were related to interpersonal conflicts. Crime was a factor in approximately one third of all homicide/legal-intervention deaths, with robbery being the primary circumstance."

"Approximately two thirds of all homicides and approximately one half of all suicides in the United States are committed with a firearm (1). In the 16 states included in this report, firearms were the most common method used in homicides, incidents involving multiple victims, and incidents of homicide followed by suicide. Previous research indicates that interpersonal disputes can escalate and cause serious violent injury or death, especially when weapons of lethal means (e.g., firearms) are involved in the dispute (24,25). Firearms also were the most common method used in suicides; however, methods differed by sex. Firearms were the most common method used by males to complete suicide followed by hanging/strangulation/suffocation. Poisoning was the most common method used by females, followed by firearms."

"Firearms were used in 66.1% of homicides, followed by sharp instruments (12.1%) and blunt instruments (5.8%). No other single method was used in more than 3.4% of homicides (Table 9). Firearms were the most common method used in homicides of males (71.7%) and females (46.4%)."

"A house or apartment was the most common location of homicide for both males and females (44.7% and 72.6%, respectively)."

Source: http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5904a1.htm

Circumstances
Other argument, abuse, conflict: 41.9%
Percipitated by crime: 35.7%
http://www.cdc.gov/mmwr/preview/mmwrhtml/ss5904a1.htm#tab14

Just the facts ma'am.

[sharesunited]

1. Guns in the hands of the general public is a ridiculous American indulgence.

[The Straight Story]

2. 300 million people, how many millions have guns? What % use them in crimes? What % have guns they

got illegally?

MOST people don't use guns in a negative way, so why punish all for the view?

[Flaneur]

3. Because we don't want to be shot by the one who does?

[sharesunited]

4. I think you framed the question backwards. On what rational basis is access to guns justifiable?

[Warren Stupidity]

5. Did I suggest banning guns?

The only idiocy I am opposed to is the idiotic proposition that everyone walking around dressed for a gunfight will result in a safer society, the lunacy of taking Heinlien's 'an armed society is a polite society' quip seriously.

The data shows that people with guns shoot and kill each other, the majority of the time, over arguments with people they know, not in the context of a crime. Worse, if you read the data, generally at least the victim is intoxicated, and likely so is the perpetrator. The consequences of an armed society, quite the opposite from Heinlien's Theorum, is a society much like ours, where people shoot each other a lot and probably are quite rude while doing it.