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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:31 AM Original message |
University Park man slain after dog urinates on lawn |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
1. He'll just have to remember his beloved lawn from the slammer, now. |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
2. Just insane. Another law-abiding citizen turned murderer. |
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Echo In Light (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #2 |
4. The Cons are getting slightly 'edgy' |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:19 AM Response to Reply #2 |
30. The key word is indeed "insane" |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
3. Jesus H Christ, even cheney wasn't that bad re pooches piddling on his lawn |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:38 AM Response to Original message |
5. It was just a yard. People need to chill the fuck out. |
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CLANG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:15 PM Response to Reply #5 |
48. Not only that, but it was bio-degradable! |
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CakeGrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
59. A little beside the point, but it wasn't even POOP |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #59 |
60. Yeah, I saw that detail later. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:43 AM Response to Original message |
6. Well the guy with the gun probably had a concealed weapon permit and only wanted to protect himself |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:24 AM Response to Reply #6 |
13. Yup, this is why second amendment rights are soooooo important... |
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reggie the dog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
21. illinios has no concealed weapons permits |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:11 AM Response to Reply #21 |
24. Then the shooter was violating the law? |
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Missy Vixen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:09 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Nooooooo! Violating the law? |
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joeybee12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #21 |
27. But I bet he had a permit for the gun...concealed or not...n/t |
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ima_sinnic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:41 AM Response to Reply #27 |
78. yes, so apparently even the insane can get them |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #21 |
29. Yes they do. |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:11 AM Response to Reply #6 |
37. Canard-fail. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:36 PM Response to Reply #37 |
58. And a million Americans took a shit today too and others were killed but who cares! |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:56 PM Response to Reply #58 |
64. People elect politicians you don't like or are unsuitable for the job. |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:20 PM Response to Reply #64 |
71. There is no comparison with the things you use here. |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:01 AM Response to Reply #71 |
80. What level does one have to attain to qualify for 'protection'? |
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Vickers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
57. U FELL! |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:26 PM Response to Reply #57 |
73. What does that mean? |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:45 AM Response to Original message |
7. Now that he's in jail, I reccommend all his pet-owning neighbors use his lawn as a pet-toilet |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:31 AM Response to Reply #7 |
34. I think pics of the dead brown urine spots will make him lose his mind. |
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hlthe2b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
8. Ahh, the bullying personna does him in... |
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NotThisTime (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:00 AM Response to Original message |
9. Nothing but terribly sad for the children left fatherless and his family :( |
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YOY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:02 AM Response to Original message |
10. "Git off mah land!!!" |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:05 AM Response to Original message |
11. how sad - a 1 year old and a 4 year old now without a Father (and one on the way) |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. I honestly think this nut would have slit his throat if he only had a knife |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:28 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. a knife might have offed the victim a moment to defend himself |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:37 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. I would agree but he was a former Marine |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #18 |
89. Ah, but at 70 could he utilize his training still? |
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jeepnstein (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:57 AM Response to Reply #14 |
98. Here's what a knife can do. Not for the squemish. |
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Macoy (102 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:31 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Don't Taunt the Crazy Man |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #16 |
19. easy to criticize . . . and to put part of the blame of the victim's death on the victim |
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deutsey (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
49. I don't want to blame the victim either, but I've had a gun pulled on me. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:48 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. you are among the few who actually knows what it feels like to come face-to-face with that |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #11 |
39. Correction. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. and two are without a Father because this guy had a gun and used it impulsively |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:57 PM Response to Reply #44 |
65. Someone drives drunk and kills a father of two. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 04:46 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. someone who drives drunk and kills a father of two should be in jail |
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RobinA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:04 AM Response to Reply #65 |
101. No. And I Defend My Right |
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krabigirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #11 |
72. No, it was because of obsession with lawns and hatred of others. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 04:36 AM Response to Reply #72 |
77. and the belief that he had to have that gun with him |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 09:47 AM Response to Reply #77 |
79. Because focusing on it is easier than dealing with the real problems. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:44 AM Response to Reply #79 |
87. guns are real problems |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:51 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. No, they're not. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:56 AM Response to Reply #93 |
97. of course they are - to deny it prevents a solution |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #79 |
94. Cool it with the divisive language -- please? |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:01 AM Response to Reply #77 |
100. He did not have that gun with him. |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 11:25 AM Response to Reply #100 |
102. that is not in the article |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 12:45 PM Response to Reply #102 |
103. It is at the bottom of this article. Warning: a lot of readers there are cheering the man!?! |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:32 PM Response to Reply #103 |
105. man - just read through those comments |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:53 AM Response to Reply #11 |
95. And lawns. Smithsonian magazine had an article a few years back about the white male |
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Tailormyst (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:02 PM Response to Reply #11 |
104. This guy would have found something else to use if he did not have the gun. |
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mainer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:31 AM Response to Original message |
15. If he hadn't had a gun, he wouldn't be going to prison. |
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brendan120678 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:41 AM Response to Reply #15 |
20. If he hadn't had a gun, he wouldn't be going to prison?? |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
43. A 69 year old vs a 23 year old in a fist fight? |
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NNN0LHI (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:51 PM Response to Reply #43 |
45. I have a father in-law who at 69 could have snapped me in half like a twig when I was 23 |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #45 |
47. It can happen, on occasion |
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-..__... (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. Epic Beard Man would take that bet. |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #55 |
74. In the famous words of Damon Runyon |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #43 |
96. Well.... |
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daleo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:49 PM Response to Reply #96 |
108. What's tricky about gunning someone down in cold blood? |
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Upton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Maybe if the guy who was walking the dog had a gun |
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DrDan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:49 PM Response to Reply #25 |
52. that's the ticket . . . more guns |
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wolfgangmo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:58 AM Response to Reply #25 |
99. And maybe... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #15 |
31. You're making two IMO very weak assumptions |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #15 |
38. So in your mind..... |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:39 PM Response to Reply #15 |
42. +1 |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:02 PM Response to Reply #42 |
54. Please turn off your computer at once |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:03 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Should have used the *sarcasm* icon... |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 08:08 PM Response to Reply #62 |
76. I believe in handgun control too |
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X_Digger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:34 AM Response to Reply #76 |
83. Modified weaver for teh win. n/t |
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whathehell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:35 AM Response to Original message |
17. Jeebus...when I take my dog for a walk, |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 09:50 AM Response to Original message |
22. I had a man hollar nasty at me when 2 of my dogs walked on the edge of his |
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crim son (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:04 AM Response to Original message |
23. Few things piss me off more than seeing a dog owner |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:13 AM Response to Original message |
26. Wasn't there a recent Clint Eastwood movie with basically this plot? |
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slackmaster (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:16 AM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Not even close |
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edbermac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
69. I think Magnum Force. |
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MrScorpio (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
32. To be fair, the young guy was armed with a puppy. |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:29 AM Response to Original message |
33. I think we know who will take over the job of lawn care at Statesville! |
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The Backlash Cometh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 10:36 AM Response to Original message |
35. Jesus. |
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bullwinkle428 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:13 PM Response to Original message |
40. A homeowner once started yelling at me because my dog |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 12:33 PM Response to Original message |
41. The shooter is an Anal Retentive AHole IMHO |
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lapislzi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
46. Property trumps human life |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
50. It is a tragedy that should have been averted. |
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geardaddy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 01:55 PM Response to Reply #50 |
53. Yikes |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:58 PM Response to Reply #50 |
61. You are equating a dog peeing on a lawn with a guy shooting the dog owner? |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 03:08 PM Response to Reply #50 |
63. Huh? The article indicated that the gunman terrorized his neighbors |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 04:57 PM Response to Reply #50 |
67. Are you a dog owner? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:43 AM Response to Reply #67 |
86. How ANY property owner can freak out over puppy piss is beyond me |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #50 |
68. your post is full of blaming the victim |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:38 AM Response to Reply #50 |
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ieoeja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 02:14 PM Response to Reply #50 |
107. And then went inside, got a gun, found the "trespasser" several houses away, and murdered him. |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 03:25 PM Response to Reply #107 |
109. If those are the facts, it is premediated, and the killer gets capital conviction. |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 02:14 PM Response to Original message |
56. Wow, what a statement for how it really is in America. No health insurance, don't get sick, |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:48 AM Response to Reply #56 |
91. And, according to the rabid brainwashed goose stepping authoritarians here |
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zonkers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
92. Sucks. |
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jpak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:28 PM Response to Original message |
70. If the dog owner had had a gun he could have defended himself - everyone should carry |
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county worker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #70 |
75. In "LA Story" Steve Martin is driving in his car with his wife on a L A freeway and every driver has |
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slampoet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
81. He's over 65. This murderer won't serve any time. The elderly never do. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #81 |
90. Unless they sell pot. nt |
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Urban Prairie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:30 AM Response to Original message |
82. I had a neighbor who was anal about his bent grass, putting green lawn.. |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:35 AM Response to Original message |
84. Wasnt this the exact plot of the movie Gran Torino? |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #84 |
88. No. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu May-13-10 01:36 PM Response to Original message |
106. More extensive writeup on this story |
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