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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:28 PM
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When I'm forced to vote for Hillary
I'll use my least favorite pen.
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bahrbearian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:31 PM
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1. Have a little optimism here.
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peace13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:32 PM
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2. I will use the same machine that declared Kerry a loser!
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:32 PM
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3. Nobody is forcing you to do shit.
and nobody really gives a fuck what pen you use.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:38 PM
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8. There is still the Ignore Function
If posts like this are getting you THAT riled up THIS early in the cycle. :shrug:
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salinen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:09 PM
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17. I thought this would get a laugh
Boy was I wrong.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:13 PM
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19. I think this is going to be a long two years here in DUland! *sign* n/t
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:46 PM
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35. At least its not a post about someone's house
Anti-Hilary posts were falling behind in their quotas.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:51 PM
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38. Anyone who owns a house is not a good Democrat


Isn't that in the DU rules somewhere?

:rofl:

I hope we're checking labels of clothing our candidates are wearing and types of food our candidates are eating and the personal products our candidates are using. THAT's what matters in 2008.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:53 PM
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39. I rent so I guess I'm cool
and our heat barely works so that should make me an extra special Dem. maybe I should run for office. Oh yeah, you need money to do that.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 07:02 PM
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40. Oh, you can have money
Just not a house :eyes:
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:51 PM
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42. The image of themselves being left between the Hill and
a Republican caused a bit of unhappiness. (It's not just you.) LOL!
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meow mix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:49 PM
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37. stress much?
wth... lighten up guy eesh
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:33 PM
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4. Me too. And I'll bitch about it before and after
as I did with Kerry.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:38 PM
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9. Use of the sexist verb is a nice touch here. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:40 PM
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11. It's a verb AND a noun!!! A most flexible word! It's been applied to me from time to time
by sexists.
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:52 PM
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13. Which undoubtedly helps to win votes
I'll bitch about it in the primaries, but after that, positive support only. It really pisses me off when people get on their crosses about Kerry letting them down, when they never really supported him in the first place. Same goes for any Dem candidate. Once they're the candidate, support them or sit home and shut up.
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:15 PM
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20. Well, sit home and shut up AFTER you vote absnetee (gotta get the votes!) n/t
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:22 PM
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21. Before and After - but do vote!! n/t
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 12:25 PM
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45. I will. nt
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 12:24 PM
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44. It's true. I didn't support him. The candidate I did support was sabotaged
by the DNC and the DLC. I trust the DNC more, now that Dean (whom I supported in the caucuses) is chair, but if the DLC wants me to strongly support its candidate in the general, it needs to play fair in the primaries.

And the general candidate needs to run a decent campaign. Which didn't happen in '04.
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theoldman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:35 PM
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5. I think Hillary will make a great president.
There are others that I prefer but if she is the Democrat candidate I will vote for her. To vote for a Republican would be shear stupidity.
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cynatnite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:35 PM
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6. same as with voting third party n/t
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 03:36 PM by cynatnite
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:39 PM
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10. Same here. She's not either of my top two choices, but I will vote for her if she gets the nod. nt
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samq79 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:44 PM
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12. exactly how I feel...
I couldn't have said it better, so I won't
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:23 PM
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22. Welcome to Democratic Underground. nt
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Debi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:44 PM
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23. Welcome to DU samq79
:hi:
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:52 PM
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32. I would welcome it in comparison to what we've got now...n/t
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 03:37 PM
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7. Am I supposed to feel sorry for you? nt
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:04 PM
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14. I see.
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Individualist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:06 PM
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15. Who's forcing you?
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Dora Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:07 PM
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16. You're funny! I second that motion. n/t
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onehandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:09 PM
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18. Diebold casts my vote.
The tell me who I voted for after 7 on election night.

Might be Hillary. Might be anybody.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:45 PM
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24. i will never be forced to vote for her.
not as long as there's a 3rd party candidate on the ballot.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:47 PM
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26. That did us a lot of good in 2000 and 2004. nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:08 PM
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29. i refuse to vote for a candidate of the DLC.
they do NOT represent the Democratic Party.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:16 PM
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30. That's how we got GWB. Thanks so much! nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 05:50 PM
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31. don't thank me...thank the DLC!
nt
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:19 PM
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33. Some day, when I have time, I'll explain how voting theory works. nt
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:44 PM
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34. knock yourself out...
i will still NEVER EVER EVER vote for a candidate with ties to the dlc.

it just won't happen- i will not sacrifice my principles out of misguided convienence.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 09:48 PM
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41.  We'll start with the Academy Awards [multi-candidate elections] and then work our way to...
elections where you can vote for say, four out of eight, then we'll do two-way and three way races.

I'm glad you weren't around in 1932 voting for Norman Thomas in order to give Hoover another four years.

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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 11:23 PM
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43. ummm...i don't think that fdr was dlc...
Edited on Tue Jan-30-07 11:25 PM by QuestionAll
and i have no idea what the oscars stuff is about- you have to be a member of the academy to vote on those, iinm...

but like i said- knock yourself out...please.
and if your skull is thick enough for you to justify voting dlc, that may take some doing...:hi:
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:45 PM
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25. Don't worry.
It will NOT happen. Eventually, someone will jump into the ring who can beat her in the primaries. The ONLY thing she has going for her is name recognition. Truly. There is nothing so wonderful about her that is going to keep people from backing another candidate of greater "merit".

I haven't heard anything bad about Richardson yet, so he might be the one to get it, simply because he's got non-Northeastern gubernatorial experience and he can distance himself from Iraq.

But it will not be Hilary. For starters, as soon as the lesbian rumors come out, (again) or if people start discussing Vince Foster, too many people will get nervous. If I recall, there were also rumors that Bill came away from some "confrontations" with Hilary with scratch marks on his face.

Everybody is being nice right now, because it's too early to waste breath on this sort of thing. But it will be hitting the fan before next January. If you think Kerry got blackballed with "Unfit to Serve", you ain't seen nuthin' yet. You've already seen the "cabbages and tomatoes of Islam" that have been thrown at Obama.

It will get much, much worse.
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Alamom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:49 PM
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27. Hillary's more than ready & prepared to deal with the fan & anything that flies from it.
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 04:50 PM
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28. They will pull the "unfit to serve" crap on any candidate the Dems nominate.
McGovern-Eagleton
Dukakis - Mentally unstable.
Gore - a faker and liar.
Kerry - Faked and lied his service record. Hates vets.

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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-30-07 06:47 PM
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36. Not me. Any day I can vote for a Democratic candidate is a joyous day for me n/t
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-31-07 12:43 PM
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46. Next year this time...
Edited on Wed Jan-31-07 12:48 PM by Old Crusoe
Des Moines, Iowa
January 2008

(AP) In a stunning reversal of fortunes for frontrunner Senator Hillary Rodham Clinton, Iowa Democrats turned out for their local caucuses last night and cast over 28% of their votes for Delaware Senator Joe Biden.

Polls from as early as this past summer showed Senator Biden's candidacy to be registering with approxaimtely 4-6% of the Iowa Democratic caucus vote, but the tragic turn of events in the Middle East, coupled with Biden's long-standing command of international affairs, propelled him to victory.

In the unofficial caucus tally, Senator Biden led the field with 28%, followed closely by former Senator John Edwards with 24%, Governor Bill Richardson with 14%, Senator Barack Obama with 12%, Senator Clinton with 9%, Congressman Dennis Kucinich with 8%, with the remaining percentages split among others candidates. Native Son Tom Vilsack's withdrawal from the race in September opened both fundraising and political options for several of the remaining candidacies.

General Wesley Clark, former Vice President Al Gore, and former Senator Mike Gravel chose not to compete in the Iowa caucus, but appear on the ballot in subsequent primary states, including the upcoming Nevada and New Hampshire primaries.

Voting was heavy throughout the state, especially in the northwestern counties. "It clearly rivals the 2004 turn-out, maybe a bit larger," said Lee Harmon, a poll supervisor in Cedar Rapids. "Democrats just came out of the woodwork to vote this time. It felt great."

Biden's ascendancy came to the delight of his campaign staff but also to the chagrin of the Bush administration, which exit polls indicated is the root of the blame for the tragedies which have unfolded in Iraq and elsewhere in recent years.

Throughout his campaign in the state, Biden stressed that the Bush administration's "surge" -- the escalation of troop commitments dating to winter of 2007 -- was an "invitation to slaughter." His campaign stressed the failure of the military solution the president has long insisted upon and clearly benefited from its failure. Early polls indicated that Biden did not enjoy wide or deep support in the state; however international events brought the administration's failings to a vivid public scrutiny not seen since the waning days of the Johnson years.

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