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CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:13 AM
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Scientists are critical thinkers? Say it isn't so!
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:27 AM
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1. Only 34 % discount the possibility of God's existence? So many powerful
forces for evil backing their position, too. Amazing!
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:37 AM
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2. Actually, to be precise, 64% do not believe in a god.
28% do, and the remaining 8% evidently fall into the "believe in a higher power that's not god" category.

Given the religion-saturated society most of them grow up in, this is astounding.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:04 AM
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4. ... and you claim to have a critical mind..!!! The agnostics, constituting 30%,
Edited on Tue May-11-10 10:07 AM by Joe Chi Minh
are just as unpersuaded that there is no God, as they are that there is. They have an open mind. They are t-e-a-c-h-a-b-l-e. As were most of the greatest innovative thinkers in the history of science, who were Christians or theists in the case of Einstein. He believed in a great designer and guiding spirit, as well as an unbounded admiration for Judaeo-Christianity as all together the greatest imaginable template for human behaviour.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 10:11 AM
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5. You couldn't be more wrong.
Virtually every atheist has an open mind, too. They aren't the strawmen you love to hate. If you can ever provide even the tiniest shred of evidence for your god, you'll change minds. But you and your theological cohorts over the past few millenia have managed to come up with absolutely nothing, despite many of you devoting your entire lives to the subject, and becoming quite arrogant, dismissive, and condescending in the process.
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Joe Chi Minh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:44 AM
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6. So you're brighter than Einsten... Ah, well. I should have known. To him, the whole universe
Edited on Wed May-12-10 12:16 PM by Joe Chi Minh
spoke of a god, a guiding spirit, albeit, non-personal.* And I suppose, Neils Bohr, his father, a devout Lutheran and professor of physiology*, Newton, Galileo**, and a host of other top scientific thinkers were dopey fantasists - unlike you and your clear-sighted pals.

Newton ended up despising physics and mathematics, to throw all his energy into the study of alchemy. And he was STILL a million times brighter than you or your pals will ever be.

*It's so elementary, it doesn't even rise to the level of philosophy, never mind theology.

** Early years
Bohr was born in Copenhagen, Denmark, in 1885. His father, Christian Bohr, a devout Lutheran, was professor of physiology at the University of Copenhagen (it is his name which is given to the Bohr shift or Bohr effect),
Link: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Niels_Bohr

'Niels Henrik David Bohr was born in Copenhagen on October 7, 1885, as the son of Christian Bohr, Professor of Physiology at Copenhagen University, and his wife Ellen, née Adler. Niels, together with his younger brother Harald (the future Professor in Mathematics), grew up in an atmosphere most favourable to the development of his genius - his father was an eminent physiologist and was largely responsible for awakening his interest in physics while still at school, his mother came from a family distinguished in the field of education.'
Link: http://nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/physics/laureates/1922/bohr-bio.html

*** Galileo was such a passionate believer, it was only the machinations of his powerful father that prevented him from becoming a priest.

You accuse me of hating you all, yet, for as long as I've been on here, I've seen your mob regularly sneering at Christians, indeed, theists of all stripes, and vaunting yourselves as having vastly superior intellects! Just like your thread header. Never mind that you equally insult the believers in your professional ranks.

Wake up to yourselves!
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:52 AM
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8. uh, i don't see anyone claiming to be brighter than Einstein...
:shrug:

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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:01 PM
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12. Here's a music video for you.
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trotsky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:41 PM
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13. If you couldn't argue with strawmen, you'd have nothing to say.
It's sad and funny all at the same time. But the best part is when you get all blustery and nasty, and get your posts deleted. Ah, Jesus must be so proud of you.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 11:45 AM
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7. Do you have an open mind about the possiblity of Santa Claus?
I mean, you can't prove he doesn't exist, can you?
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:19 PM
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:39 PM
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10. How about the Easter Bunny?
Keebler Elves?
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Kurt_and_Hunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:53 PM
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15. self delete
Edited on Wed May-12-10 01:57 PM by Kurt_and_Hunter
why bother?
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Commie Pinko Dirtbag Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 02:00 PM
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16. Until the 20th century, you practically couldn't function in the West...
...unless you at least pretended to be a Christian. (In some places, at some times, Jewish would sorta work too.)

Therefore, Christians get NO merit points for Galileo and Newton and etc etc etc "being Christians".

For all we know, 75% of those scientists may have only pretended to be Christians out of self-preservation.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue May-11-10 09:45 AM
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3. This includes a lot of non-scientists
"The work reported in this book draws on an extensive survey of nearly 1700 professors at twenty one "elite" universities, in seven core disciplines (chemistry, physics, biology, sociology, economics, political science, and psychology), augmented by detailed interviews with 275 of them.

I wouldn't consider sociology, political science and economics to be sciences -- and psychology is pretty marginal, depending on the specialization in that field.

On the other hand they left out a wide array of actual sciences from anthropology to zoology.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 12:57 PM
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11. Yet the devout make use of the benefits of science every day
Cars, airplanes, medicine, MRIs, computers, televisions, cell phones - well, nearly everything really.
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-12-10 01:48 PM
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14. Scientists are smart?...
Who would have guessed that?

Sid
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