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mfcorey1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:02 AM Original message |
Handwriting on the wall for 'cursive,' but teachers push penmanship |
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LeftinOH (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:07 AM Response to Original message |
1. OMG, LOL! R U kidding me? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:21 AM Response to Reply #1 |
5. That's a different issue |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:55 AM Response to Reply #5 |
11. Well, as a college instructor I can verify both |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 04:56 PM Response to Reply #11 |
57. All the more reason to teach keyboarding |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #57 |
79. I took typing in high school |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:46 PM Response to Reply #79 |
90. Yes you get extra credit! |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:13 AM Response to Original message |
2. Yup. Everyone should learn Morse Code, |
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mwb970 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:48 AM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Funny you would mention Morse Code. |
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sarge43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:13 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. I mentioned Code because |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #38 |
80. I remember getting very disgusted at my child's 3d grade |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:18 AM Response to Original message |
3. The only cursive I use now is my signature, |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:31 AM Response to Reply #3 |
17. reminds me of me... i have forgotten how some of the cursive letters are written! |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:44 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. I had to ask how to write an uppercase "q" or a "z". |
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ben_thayer (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:06 AM Response to Reply #3 |
23. Same here... |
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elocs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:21 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. You know, for 20 years my signature was like I was taught to write it in grade school. |
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ben_thayer (344 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:49 AM Response to Reply #24 |
34. Great minds etc.... |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:28 AM Response to Reply #24 |
48. I draw a little picture. |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:49 PM Response to Reply #3 |
82. I can remember in 2d grade (1959) spending what seemed like |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:20 AM Response to Original message |
4. We don't even teach handwriting anymore |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:42 AM Response to Reply #4 |
44. Then how do people learn to sign their names? |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:34 AM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Most of us teach them how to do that |
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Codeine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:37 AM Response to Reply #50 |
51. Well that makes sense. |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #44 |
96. I don't use a cursive signature. |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:05 AM Response to Reply #44 |
99. Is a handwriting signature of stronger legal value than a printed signature? |
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The Straight Story (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:44 PM Response to Reply #4 |
60. My daughter is home schooled and she has daily lessons on handwriting |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #60 |
63. In my classroom too |
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donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:40 AM Response to Reply #4 |
94. Ours, either. |
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Coco2 (52 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:23 AM Response to Original message |
6. I send you into the forest with an ax...when do I get an email from you? |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:34 AM Response to Original message |
7. Back in my day, "cursive" is all we learned but they called in Palmer back |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. No matter how hard I tried back in the day, I could not master penmanship |
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Cleita (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:39 AM Response to Reply #10 |
53. I think it is because there was the thought that had to go into the whole |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:40 PM Response to Reply #53 |
55. I never mastered penmanship, but got my degrees in English |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:36 PM Response to Reply #53 |
89. i agree w/ you, especially when it comes to non-Latin E. Asia scripts. |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:53 PM Response to Reply #10 |
91. i sympathize w/ you, but still disagree. especially after music & E. Asian lang. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:45 AM Response to Reply #91 |
98. I am also a published poet, creative writer, and do much |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #7 |
83. I agree |
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juajen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:39 AM Response to Reply #7 |
92. Uh, Cleita, that would be "appallingly" . I know, I'm totally outdated. NT |
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Flipper999 (185 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
8. They drilled it into me. |
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FormerDittoHead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:51 AM Response to Original message |
9. Not googling, but wasn't cursive INVENTED because of quill pens? |
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eilen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:01 AM Response to Original message |
12. The SAT board refused my son his accommodations |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:32 AM Response to Reply #12 |
28. has he been formally identified with dysgraphia |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:38 AM Response to Reply #12 |
52. You can probably file a formal complaint |
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bigwillq (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:02 AM Response to Original message |
13. I never write in cursive |
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ipfilter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
14. I'm left handed. Writing is a chore for me no matter what I use. |
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dionysus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:32 AM Response to Reply #14 |
18. and how about smearing the crap out of whatever you're writing with your hand? i always used to have |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:35 AM Response to Reply #14 |
31. Our lefty son has this challenge as well. |
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Mudoria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:19 AM Response to Original message |
15. Nothing improves your handwriting better than calligraphy. |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:34 AM Response to Reply #15 |
30. "drawing letters" is stored in a different part of the brain |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:31 AM Response to Original message |
16. i can print better than "write" |
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NeedleCast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:32 AM Response to Original message |
19. Do away with cursive period |
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MadHound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:38 AM Response to Reply #19 |
32. Well, almost half the students in this country don't own computers, or have computers access |
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tonysam (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:14 AM Response to Reply #32 |
46. It's excellent for developing fine motor skills |
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proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:32 AM Response to Reply #32 |
49. 99% of schools have computers |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
75. almost half the students in this country don't have computer access? |
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Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:40 AM Response to Reply #19 |
43. No. Keep all periods, even cursive. They are handy for separating |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:35 AM Response to Original message |
20. My kids never really picked up cursive very well. Their penmanship consists |
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mohinoaklawnillinois (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. I had pretty good penmanship until I had a stroke in |
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Bill McBlueState (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:27 AM Response to Original message |
25. interesting, ABeka is for Christian fundamentalists |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:30 AM Response to Reply #25 |
27. Montessori does as well - and they're hardly a fundy group... n/t |
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kentuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:29 AM Response to Original message |
26. That's the goal of Google. |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:03 PM Response to Reply #26 |
85. That is all too often the view of a lot of college freshmen I see |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. Sadly, penmanship has given way to increased FCAT review |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
35. Of course I'm the weirdo who writes in cursive. I take notes all the time while studying and also |
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TwilightGardener (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:17 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. That's what my kids don't get--they think printing's easier because |
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dana_b (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:56 PM Response to Reply #35 |
62. I'm a weirdo too! |
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derby378 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:56 AM Response to Original message |
36. We cannot become too dependent on technology |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:03 AM Response to Original message |
37. When the Zombie Apocalypse finally hits... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:12 AM Response to Reply #37 |
45. All Hail the Holy Stiletto. So humans eventually un-crook their hands but end up with |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 03:49 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. Hand bunions. |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. Sorry, I goofed. However, your vision was one of the most entertaining reads I've found in a while |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #58 |
77. it's weird... |
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KittyWampus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 09:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
78. The Freak Brothers cartoons had little sidebar cartoons on the pages- the Cockroach Army |
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ashling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:06 PM Response to Reply #37 |
86. "to over throw our zombie oppresses" |
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Bucky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 06:09 AM Response to Reply #37 |
100. . |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:19 AM Response to Original message |
40. Of all the things we need to teach kids in school |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:21 AM Response to Original message |
41. I got a D- in 2d grade because of my handwriting. |
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hedgehog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:32 AM Response to Original message |
42. Out with Spencer, Out with Palmer, in with Italic: |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:31 PM Response to Reply #42 |
64. Foundation is a good hand to know and fairly easy, but Spencer is easier than it looks |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:20 AM Response to Original message |
47. I am left-handed |
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Goblinmonger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 12:02 PM Response to Reply #47 |
54. Your daughter is a great argument for differentiated instruction |
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Fleshdancer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:45 PM Response to Reply #47 |
61. I'm also a lefty who does a mix of print and cursive |
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blogslut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #61 |
70. Well, for me |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
59. As if basic ed and the humanities aren't suffering enough... |
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REP (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #59 |
67. Handwriting forges a connection to words and writing that keyboards can't |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #59 |
76. i wonder if YOU have a seen handwritten letter from the 20s... |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #76 |
81. Plenty. I have my great grandmother's hand written letters |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
65. Cursive only? Don't they teach the kids block lettering first? |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:58 PM Response to Reply #65 |
72. according to Montessori - |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:37 PM Response to Original message |
66. I thought typewriters spelled the doom of penmanship... |
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miyazaki (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
68. fuck that! get rid of the computers! n/t |
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proteus_lives (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. I weep. |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
71. Fine with me. First thing they do in Engineering is teach you to write in print. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:43 AM Response to Reply #71 |
95. You don't take many written exams, do you? I had students ask for "extra time" because they could |
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NutmegYankee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #95 |
101. Actually I did. |
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comrade snarky (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
73. It's an outrage |
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pitohui (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 07:16 PM Response to Original message |
74. yeah cursive is a waste of time |
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Maru Kitteh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
84. I'm not in favor of further erosion of the precious little we ask of students |
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Book Lover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
87. Y'all are so happy to lose a skill, then fine |
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KonaKane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue May-11-10 11:19 PM Response to Reply #87 |
88. Unbelievable isn't it. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:44 AM Response to Reply #87 |
97. I KNOW! It's like "Ah, the good old days when King John could sign Magna Carta with just an 'X'!" |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed May-12-10 05:40 AM Response to Original message |
93. I completely disagree. Typing-only is a short-sighted and puerile approach to adult communication. |
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