Pro impeachment guys: we need to lobby Nancy. How do we do it?

[EFerrari]

I have the utmost respect for the Speaker. We were pulled off the Clinton campaign low those many years ago and assigned to hers. Been working them ever since. So, I'm not about to damage what we've worked so hard to support, shore up and promote.

And, I want this traitorous b@stard impeached. He's homicidal (or his runners are) and enough is effen' enough. He let us get killed on 9/11. He let NOLA drown when he knew the levees were breached. He's made our service people sitting ducks in a meat grinder. I HATE this man and I'm not supposed to hate anyone. :mad:

What are your suggestions, pro impeachment DUers? How can we move this project forward in a civil manner and just using the resources we have?

Please post the most specific, positive suggestions you can and let's get this show on the road.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

1. How to educate an insider . . .

. . . on the wiles of Cheney and PNAC. I don't know. The Dems don't understand that Cheney is still moving chess pieces faster than they can react.

H2O man to the rescue???

I don't know how to get my BEST FRIENDS to stop their lives long enough to hear my voice in the wilderness.

Let alone someone like Pelosi . . . who should be up on the machinations of the NeoCons anyhow.

If you can figure out a plan, I'll try to help.

--The New, CrazierOrangeCat

[EFerrari]

7. I honestly think that Nancy gets it. But, it's her job to herd cats, too.

She's in a really difficult position and she will have to deal with this.

She can do it. I'm just trying to figure out the most positive way to meet that challenge -- most positive in terms of the party and in terms of outcome.

This felon is toast. But we can do it the hard way or plan carefully to do it in a way that may minimize collateral damage.

But don't get me wrong. I'm willing to do whatever it takes to get his @ss outta there.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

19. That is interesting.

You think she understands their deadly game. Their deadly game being a totalitarian regime. Well, maybe I'll choose to believe you.

If that is the case, then she really is in a awful position. I hope she understands that her offices are probably bugged. Mass murderers don't have any compunction about that stuff. Does she have a trusted inner cirlce, I wonder? No doubt she does. (I'm just thinking "aloud" here.)

Perhaps continuing the LTTE's, making calls, and supporting those who can actually get out and march, is the best thing we can do to help.

This latest stunt re: the "party commissars" has got me totally freaked-out. It is all spinning very much out of control.

[EFerrari]

25. I think it is spinning out of control. I think the march was the tipping point.

That's why I posted this thread. We can be at the causal point or suffer at the point of effects. Imho, the former would be a better place to be.

[liberaldemocrat7]

72. Hold Republican contributor Exxon/Mobil accountable. Boycott them until Bush/Cheney resign.

Hold Republican contributor Exxon/Mobil accountable. Boycott them until Bush/Cheney resign.

organize people to stop buying Exxon/Mobil gas and also not even go to their gas stations so the gas station owners will have to tell the parent company that a revolt has begun.


Then get one of these items to spread the word.

http://www.zazzle.com/maximus7/search/resign

who needs impeachment?

[EFerrari]

99. What we'd be asking for is for Exxon to fire Junior.

That's not a bad idea. There's more than one way to get this donoe. :)

[CrispyQ]

33. Me too.

"I don't know how to get my BEST FRIENDS to stop their lives long enough to hear my voice in the wilderness."

Last year a friend told me that Bill Mulroney didn't break the law & they shouldn't indict him. I was wondering who this Bill Mulroney guy was & if it was news on the level that my this friend knew about it, how did I miss it? After a few minutes, I realized he was talking about Tom Delay. How am I supposed to believe this guy knows the details of Delay's case while referring to him as Bill Mulroney? :crazy:

My friends think I'm over the top when it comes to politics. They vote, but until election time, they do not pay attention to politics at all & in my opinion, they go into the polling booth desperately uninformed about what's really at stake in our country.

[EFerrari]

34. That's okay. Don't worry about them. Think of this effort as

being part of an advance team. That's what DU is. :loveya:

Right now, we need three strong reasons to impeach Deadeye Dick so I can put together a kit for Thursday.

:)

[CrazyOrangeCat]

35. some days . . .

. . . this "being informed" bizness is just a recipe for madness.

Maybe tomorrow will seem less crazy.

Kinda doubt it. :hi:

[EFerrari]

36. Close your eyes and think of Yossarian.

lol

[CrazyOrangeCat]

41. it really is that absurd.

;)

[EFerrari]

67. Anytime I have to paraphrase Queen Victoria, yeah, we're in the zone.

:rofl:

[SammyWinstonJack]

75. Maybe that's why some people choose not to be informed.

There are days when I wish I was less informed than I am, but not really. A sign I saw from the protests; Impeachment isn't just for blow jobs anymore or something like that. I think that might get some thinking, or not? :shrug:

[CrazyOrangeCat]

76. Don't know how to make people think.

But slogans like that can't hurt . . .

The simpler the better, it seems.

:hi:

[liberaldemocrat7]

71. delete

delete

[partylessinOhio]

2. Good luck on that! Pelosi could care less IMO. It's all about "her."

[EFerrari]

9. I respectfully disagree. Nancy has been my very receptive representative

and unless she develops a brain tumor that affects her behavior, I'm sure she will continue to be that.

I disagree with her often but that doesn't mean I can't find a way to talk to her and be heard. :)

[partylessinOhio]

55. Pelosi may be responsive to you in her district but I don't see much

is going to happen on the national stage beyond her managing to be the "first woman speaker."

What is happening in the second 100 hours? Do you know the only legislation this week is coming up tomorrow and that is working on the budget for 2007 up to I believe September? Yesterday was spent naming post offices after politicians. We have serious problems yet this week will be wasted.

Pelosi showed her hand when she put impeachment off the table. She did that before the vote was taken to elect a speaker. Too bad the house did not elect someone else.

[EFerrari]

60. Again, I respectfully disagree. You couldn't get a more able politician

or stateswoman than Nancy. Maybe she'll surprise you.

[partylessinOhio]

64. I would love to be surprised. But I won't hold my breath.

Good luck on getting impeachment back on the table.
:hi:

[EFerrari]

65. "Nancy, set the table."

:hi:

[omega minimo]

101. Yer kidding, right?

[fooj]

3. I share in your concerns...

I think they are building their case. Shit. At least, that's what I'm hoping.

[EFerrari]

10. fooj, we need to plan an action that works. An action that makes

contact with the pressure points.

We can do it, imho. It can be simple as calling every Monday morning. Or, sending the same letter every Friday night. Or?

But we can move this forward. I know we can.

[cool user name]

79. I hoped the Supreme Court wouldn't select Bush ...

... then I hoped that the Patriot Act wouldn't be rushed through at the 11th hour, then hoped that we wouldn't go to war with Iraq, then hoped that the 2004 election wouldn't be stolen too, then I hoped and hoped and hoped and shit kept getting worse and worse and worse.

I'm tired of hoping. Fuck hope. It's time to impeach, then indict, then imprison.

[porphyrian]

4. Contact your Representatives.

I'm not sure what method is most effective, so maybe try all of them. Often, if necessary. Get like-minded people to do the same. Repeat.

Contact Speaker Pelosi as above.

Write a letter to the editor of any publication you think may print it.

Make sure you read this post: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=3086616

Or check this out, and maybe start the process yourself:
http://impeachforpeace.org/ImpeachNow.html

[EFerrari]

11. Nancy is my rep. And while I used to call her office just about every week

I want to be aware of her new workload. Aware, not intimidated by. :evilgrin:

[porphyrian]

17. Right. You could probably contact Congressmen Conyers and Waxman, too.

But I'm pretty sure they've got full desks as well, so maybe rotate them. ;)

[EFerrari]

23. Trifecta.

:)

[demnan]

5. You need to start with your Congressman

even if they are a Republican, as mine unfortunately is. Actually we are doing it locally in my District. We are collecting petitions. There are websites out there that help you get involved locally in impeachment efforts.

We went here and got the kit:

http://mhpbooks.com/host.html

[EFerrari]

12. Thanks for the link, demnan. I'll check it out.

:)

[babylonsister]

6. Send her a copy of the rally Saturday with the true numbers of p.o.ed people.

Better yet, let Maxine Waters give her an earful. SHE has to decide to listen to US, her constituents, and find her spine. Will she wait until we're engaged with Iran before impeachment is 'on' the table?

[EFerrari]

13. I can't help but think that someone as smart as she is

has heard and digested what Maxine has to say. :)

I'm looking for a concrete plan to lobby her office -- not because she doesn't get it, but because she needs a hook.

I want to put that hook in her hand so she can use it.

[BuyingThyme]

8. Move to San Francisco.

Or send her a tile-topped table w/ the word IMPEACHMENT spelled out in pastels.

[EFerrari]

14. Too late! Already here!

:rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

15. Oh, good. Did you get in on impeach beach?

That ruled.

[EFerrari]

18. Proud resident of the letter "H" along with these awesome ladies

who were helped to and from their position. :)

[BuyingThyme]

20. H was my total favorite.

:applause:

[EFerrari]

26. catnapper was in the exclamation point. She wound up next to

a friend of mine who said, as the helicopter buzzed by, "I hope they spelled 'Impeachment' right!"

:rofl:

[BuyingThyme]

27. ! was my total favorite, too.

[EFerrari]

28. Lol! You need to move to San Francisco.

:)

Edit: I think we had DUers in four letters. If you want something done done, get a DUer.

[spiderpig]

106. Just checkin' in, sfexpat2000!

Great to see you, mom & son in DC. (That's one fine-looking young man!)

:bounce:

[EFerrari]

107. Hey, catnapper! It was so good to meet you. San Francisco values

on parade.

:hi:

[hashibabba]

16. Contact Nancy Pelosi:

If you are not a resident of Califoria's 8th Congressional District and
are contacting me in regard to my role as Speaker, please email me at
[e-mail].

[EFerrari]

21. Sure -- we can call and email. But, I'm thinking

if we made it a movement, if we made it a concerted and respectful action, we'd get better results.

Are you guys up for a weekly contact? Daily? What would work in practice? Do we stage a sit in in front of her office? What would get us where we want to be? :hi:

[H2O Man]

22. It may not be that difficult.

I have said that I think Cheney should be the first target of investigations that lead to impeachment. There are numerous reasons why, including that his activities are more easily proven to be the type the Congress and public will agree warrent impeachment. The things people should do are, by no coincidence, found in Amendment 1. Write LTTE that say, "Impeach Cheney." Write to your Representatives and Senators. Write to the heads of the congressional committees, even if they are not "your" representative .... because committee heads represent every citizen.

That's a start.

[EFerrari]

24. So, we start with Cheney.

(But then, who will be pResident? :) )

I think that's a good way to go. Things seem to be moving very fast, H2O Man. Maybe we could try a group effort that works 2 days a week. I could start a thread Tues & Thurs with clear directions for those who'd like to participate? Weekly doesn't feel like enough, daily might just deafen the recipients as any drone tends to.

Hmm.

Always thankful for your input.

[leftchick]

29. If I remember correctly John Dean suggested that impeacing bush would

be difficult at best. Impeaching cheney would be a better strategy. I believe it was on Countdown a few weeks ago.

hi H2O Man! :)

[EFerrari]

32. I'm fine with that. We need 3 reasons to impeach Cheney.

What are the strongest ones?

:hi:

[H2O Man]

40. 1: The purposeful

misrepresentation of evidence that led this nation to war.

2. The active participation in the illegal operation to damage Joseph and Valerie Wilson.

3. Gross violations of the Constitution as part of an on-going "shadow government."

[EFerrari]

44. 3 has to be more concrete -- we know it's true but has to be put in terms

that anyone can skim and understand?

[leftchick]

54. treason?

treason and more treason??

:hi:

[EFerrari]

63. Okay but aside from lying us into war and leaking Plame's name

what other kind of treason?

lol

Why is this so hard for me? I've spent the last six YEARS aghast at this guy but my brain won't formulate a concrete #3. :silly:

[leftchick]

66. my big thing with him

is withholding the secret energy meeting minutes from 2001 where I am sure we would find the Iraqi oil map. But he got a free pass on that one. :grr:

I think this latest grab at more power by both he and bush in their latest statements, signing and otherwise is pretty huge.

Also if one were to look not too deeply into his defense contractor connections I am sure his Halliburton and other sweet deals would reveal some of the main reasons for the US occupation. There is treason under every rock at dick's house.

Speaking of his house in the tony area on the coast of maryland, I wonder if we really paid for it? Has anyone looked into that?

[EFerrari]

68. Is that the one he was shopping for while the Gulf Coast drowned?

I don't know. It would be nice if we could think of something that is already a matter of public record -- like his Halliburton connections.

[H2O Man]

43. A guest on MSNBC's Tucker

just said that impeaching VP Cheney would be a "compromise" for the nation.

This idea has more support than many realize.

[EFerrari]

47. I'm going to run with it on Thursday.

We can do this.

[mmonk]

86. As long as the AG goes too.

[sandnsea]

30. We need to lobby the media

We need to have a very concise and ACCURATE case. Ten bullet points. And hammer the media, universities, the punditry, those who influence the American people. When the people make up their minds, as in November, they will lobby Speaker Pelosi all on their own.

[EFerrari]

31. Three bullet points, ten are too many for our 5 second attention span.

Okay. So, let's put together three clear reasons why Deadeye Dick must be impeached.

That is our homework for today. If you guys help me with that, I will put together a kit and post it on Thursday.

You are right. We need not only to lobby Nancy but also media outlets. On the other hand, we know the media is owned by the wingnuts and we can't allow that to derail us. We are the media now.

So, let's go. :)

Why should Cheney be impeached?

[sandnsea]

37. Hmmm

Scooter Libby Leak, Energy Commission, Iraq ??? Or should people make a case on a variety of things, and then the best 3 cases be chosen after?

Hey, Tucker is talking about impeachment of Bush as we speak. Not in a hair-on-end, Al Sharpton and the I word sort of way - but in a more, it's reasonable but not being don for political reasons, sort of way. Hmmm.

[EFerrari]

38. We're a hair away from critical mass.

Plame leak. Misleading on Iraq. I only come up with two. Need one more.

[EFerrari]

39. Wait -- Halliburton no bid contracts? Conflict of interest?

Help.

[Pharaoh]

42. yeah that all works for me

can we impeach him cause he's a psychopath and a prick? :hi:

[EFerrari]

45. Unfortunately, I don't think there's a Constitutional remedy

that rids us of psychopaths and pricks.

:rofl:

[Pharaoh]

46. Darn!

[sandnsea]

49. Secret Energy Meetings

And what they discussed as it pertains to oil in Iraq, 'strategic defense' of oil, and the needs of big oil magnates from our military around the world. It all started there and I don't think we've got anything from that yet.

[EFerrari]

50. We know the dick set us up in that meeting. But, how is it impeachable?

[sandnsea]

51. My thoughts

Getting evidence would be necessary, obviously. But I think the roots of the Iraq War were sown in that meeting. My guess is that *if there were notes*, they would outline an entire strategy to control the world's oil resources, through whatever means necessary. If the discussions centered more around money than the needs of the American people, then I think that would be treasonous. In addition, if alternative energy were systematically dismissed, then we know America's energy needs weren't being discussed - rather the corporate oil needs were being discussed. See what I mean? I think it all goes right back to that meeting.

I'm pretty sure there's a document about Energy Security somewhere, maybe within the "Bush Doctrine" of 2002 I believe. Maybe there'd be some leads in that.

[EFerrari]

48. I've got to walk my puppy. THANK YOU ALL SO MUCH

for thinking with me.

I need one more easily digestible reason besides the Plame leak and lying about Iraq so I can put an action together for Thursday.

DU. You are amazing.

Back later. :)

[CrazyOrangeCat]

53. Regarding H20 Man's 3rd point . . .

Distill that to: It is a gross violation of the Constitution to imprison people without fair trial, and to wiretap citizens without court order. He is a clear and present danger to the Republic because of those actions.

[EFerrari]

57. Okay but isn't it being claimed that Junior ordered that? We can't

really attach it to Deadeye -- although he could be responsible

We need a clear, third item that everyone has witnessed. We witnessed him lying about WMD. We've learned he leaked Plame. We need one more crime that has been committed in daylight.

I'm thinking the conflict of interest between his office and Halliburton no bid contracts but can't quite nail it.

[NoSheep]

78. Dear GOD shouldn't that have been enough in the first place?

[EFerrari]

83. Of course! But the problem is to pin it to Darth.

I know. I can't believe we have to do this, either.

[CrazyOrangeCat]

56. And, as Poi Boy notes,

it is the LAW. They are sworn in to, among other things, defend the Constitution.

[EFerrari]

61. Sure. Now, help me find Item #3.

We're very close. lol

[PoiBoy]

52. It's the law... and to not impeach makes our politicians

complicit in the crimes.. Malloy, Hartmann and Randi have all said it.. it's the law, and our elected representatives have no choice in the matter... impeach or be accessories to the crimes.

some good information here:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=103x256002

a very informative article here:
http://www.tomdispatch.com/index.mhtml?pid=127726

Impeachment of Bush and Cheney is the only way to see a small measure of justice prevail from this nightmare... if Bush and Cheney are impeached, THEY CANNOT BE PARDONED... think about that... any other way, they fly off to Paraguay without a look back... if they are impeached.. they are imprisoned... and that will go a long way towards beginning to heal our nation...

[EFerrari]

59. Agreed. Now, help me find or restate a third item to impeach Darth with.

:)

[walldude]

58. Bury her in letters... I'm not kidding

Phone calls and e-mails are Ok but when the mail starts coming in bags, and I mean bags, it's going to be hard to ignore.

[EFerrari]

62. You are so right. I'm thinking about setting this up as an activity

for every Tues and Thurs until we have heads on pikes.

And bags of mail -- well, it's pretty hard to spin those. :)

[Senator]

69. Your Item #3 is the Elephant in Our National Living Room: Torture

Nothing they've done is more "treasonous" in the sense of giving aid and comfort to our enemies. Their "redefining" Geneva -- like cheney calling waterboarding "dunking" -- puts our soldiers at risk of torture, is their ONGOING war crime, and violates our treaty obligations and US Law (US CODE: Title 18,2441. War crimes).

In fact, Pelosi's failure to try to end the torture through impeachment could well be deemed a war crime in itself (yes, really -- we don't get to make that decision).

It has already been ruled on by the Supreme Court in Hamdan. All the tribunal-tinkering blather was a distraction from the reality that they ruled that 3 years of war crimes had already been committed when they said Geneva applies to "enemy combatants."

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[EFerrari]

70. But can we hang this on Cheney? Junior is a much easier case.

The idea is to start with Deadeye and move on from there.

[Senator]

73. Of course it "hangs" on both

That's why I don't think "doing cheney first" is really a practical scenario. If it gets the foot in the door, great. But I think any movement in that direction would quickly turn to a double impeachment/resignation scenario.

But more to the point, like with everything else cheney is up to his neck in the torture. His aide Addington was the one who forced it through the military guys and closed out Alberto Mora's objections.

Pinning it on cheney is not a problem. In fact, he defends it. Even today. There really is nothing to "investigate" and nothing to "prove."

These guys literally believe they are omnipotent. And are not shy about making the claim.

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[EFerrari]

74. Bear with me, Senator. I didn't know about Addington or managed

to filter it out so I could sleep at night.

This could be very powerful.

Okay, I'm going to look up Addington and Mora. Thank you for your help.

And I agree -- this will quickly turn into a double impeachment. But, I just want to start somewhere and NOW.

/g

[pat_k]

80. Summary of Mora's memo and key players here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=364x503566">The criminally insane fascist fantasies of John Yoo:

On Addington:

. . .
Not long afterward, Waxman was summoned to a meeting at the White House with David Addington. Waxman declined to comment on the exchange, but, according to the Times, Addington berated him for arguing that the Geneva conventions should set the standard for detainee treatment. The U.S. needed maximum flexibility, Addington said.

. . .One former government lawyer described him as "the Octopus"—his hands seemed to reach into every legal issue. . .

[EFerrari]

81. Thank you, pat_k. I reserve the right to break out into expletives

while I put this together. :(

[cool user name]

77. Kicking and screaming!

ITMFA!!!

[EFerrari]

84. With ya.

[mmonk]

82. I don't know. This is the most impeachable administration

most likely in US history. I don't understand it at all. No logic to it. There must be powers to be that run everything now and we're merely pedestrians without power or constitutional protections. So I don't how you convince them since it's so damn obvious to everyone on the planet and they haven't begun an inquiry.

[EFerrari]

85. I don't think it's a matter of convincing Nancy except insofar as we show her

that we aren't going away.

At that point, she has to factor us in or bear the consequences. I myself would like to try to stay on the same team and not make this adversarial. And, I have no problem being adversarial should it come to that.

Hopefully, it won't. :)

[mmonk]

90. My faith is on low ebb right now. It's hanging by a thread

named Fitzgerald. But just a Libby conviction alone I'm not convinced can completely stop the madness or inform the citizenry that currently lives in Wonderland. I would love to just go back to a normal life.

[pat_k]

87. Need to pin her down on what constitutes grounds for impeachment, and what mandates it. . .

Need to pin her down on what constitutes grounds for impeachment, and what mandates it. . .
. . .Until we have agreement on a few basic assumptions, even our most compelling lists of offenses and evidence can be dismissed as "insufficient" -- or can be trumped by rationalization (If we impeach, we'll lose in 2008. Can't win, so it's a waste of time. . .)

Until we have established a common understanding of where the "line" is, we are just blindly tossing lists of offenses and evidence at them in the hope that something crosses their "mandates impeachment" threshold. Given sufficient numbers hammering at them, this approach can be effective, but we may be able to get through much faster if a few of us confront them in face-to-face meetings where we can elicit and challenge their particular set of assumptions and rationalizations. If we can get buy-in on a few basic assumptions, the case for impeachment makes itself.

Consider the January 6th lobbying effort. Ordinary citizens accomplished something that the Democratic establishment told us was impossible: We "got" a Senator. The experience woke many of us up to our own power. We also learned that it is not enough to inundate them with calls, faxes, email, and visits. We had undeniable evidence that the voting systems and practices used in the conduct of the Ohio election (and others) had been corrupted by systematic vote suppression, data manipulation, human and machine error, and willful fraud. Too many Senators and Reps listened politely, saw us on our way, and dismissed everything we had to say as "insufficient grounds." Too many of them are victims of some very wrong-headed assumptions; too few of us directly challenged those assumptions. (e.g., the belief that they can only "legally" object to the electors if they have a court finding that the magnitude of fraud would have definitely "change the result").

Effective lobbying needs to do more than present a case. If we are doing all the talking, we probably aren't getting through. To find out what they are thinking, we need to ask questions. They are very good at evasion, so if questions don't elicit their rationalizations, a dialog can be "created" by saying something like, "Others have told us they won't impeach because xxxx." Do you think that's a valid reason?

DU is a fantastic resource. Some DUer's are trying to rationalize and excuse Pelosi's "off the table" edict. When challenged by other DUers, the rationalizations aren't holding up. Perhaps a couple DU exchanges could serve as a good starting point for a discussion with Pelosi herself. (A sampling of answers to Jack Cafferty's questions on the Situation Room could also do the trick.) Reviewing these public "conversations" could be a way to show her that folks out here think she's nuts. For folks out here, impeachment is an obvious and unqualified moral imperative. Her "off the table" edict is viewed as insanity that is destroying the Party by confirming the perception that Dems are wimps. We can't imagine what she could be thinking. The gap is widening and must be dealt with.

Seeking a meeting is a daunting prospect, but the mechanics are straightforward. Step one is to fax a request (http://january6th.org/mtg-request-sample-jan6.pdf">sample).

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As much as you might like to "keep it civil," the bottom line is that we need a champion. Pelosi has made herself an anti-champion with her "off the table" edict. If she doesn't wake up or get out of the way VERY soon, it's time to put down the http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x3086616">clue sticks and take out the big guns.

A big gun like the threat of a primary challenger with clout and dough.

Someone demanding impeachment NOW.

Someone with a great profile for the district.

Someone who can self-finance.

Shouldn't be too hard to find in affluent SF.

In a district that passed Proposition J (impeach Bush and Cheney) by 60%, Pelosi's refusal to fight for impeachment is a VERY risky game. It may be necessary to make it clear just how risky.

If she won't impeach Bush and Cheney to defend the Constitution, maybe she'll do it to defend her political future. If you do have a "sit down" you're more likely to be heard if you make it clear that patience "out here" has just about run out. That her obstruction makes her, and the party, the object of ridicule for cowardice. (It is already happening -- if you didn't catch Tucker tonight, check out the transcript). And the ridicule will turn to outrage at HER when Bush bombs Tehran.

[calimary]

88. Can I humbly offer this approach?

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=132&topic_id=3086616&mesg_id=3088174

[EFerrari]

96. The business analogy does resonate with most people. That's a good one!

And I agree that we have to keep the momentum going.

[radfringe]

89. IMPEACHMENT PLATES

Many things belong on the table. Plates are one of them. Here's my idea:

Take a paper plate - write a letter on it to Pelosi and your reps. stating that impeachment belongs on the table.

get creative if you want and decorate the plate as well.

Fold it up and stuff it in an envelope and mail it to them.

[DemReadingDU]

91. great idea, thank you!

[radfringe]

92. if you go to a march or some other gathering

bring some paper plates with you and hand them out to people to write their impeachment message

[DemReadingDU]

93. then, gather up the plates, and send them to Pelosi

it could be a box full of 'impeachment plates' for her table :)

[radfringe]

94. graphic

[EFerrari]

97. I love this idea.

We have to do this one. lol

:hi:

[calimary]

105. God, I LOVE it! What a great idea!

Great thinking - and such a memorable delivery system for the message!

:headbang:

[babylonsister]

95. Check this novel idea out, sfexpat:

Post#2 and multiply it by thousands. I'm in, and that would certainly get the point across...

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x89580

[EFerrari]

98. Let's do it! If it's okay, I'll put up an action thread this evening

for a Thursday action -- with ideas for talking points, etc.

This can be the excellent kick off of our impeachment campaign. lol

:think: rad fringe is a genius. :think:

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[babylonsister]

103. Have at it, take it away, it's your baby! nt

[EFerrari]

104. rad fringe put one up here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x90868

:woohoo:

[omega minimo]

100. links to impeachment info with comments from Rep. Maxine Waters

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x86974

[merh]

102. Nancy cannot be seen as the one behind impeachment because

it would be twisted as her striving for the Office of President (line of succession and all of that, she is number 3, get rid of the Bush & Cheney and it's she gets the job of President without running).

Pay attention to the Libby trial, is Fitz providing enough evidence of the crimes of this administration to give Congress the "reasons" for impeachment proceedings? Will they find themselves in such a place that they cannot avoid hearings and would be derelict in their duties if they ignored the evidence that comes out in the Libby trial?

Someone other than Nancy has to be the one to call for impeachment proceedings.

[bobbolink]

108. From another direction.....

I don't know if this is what you're looking for, but it's what came to my mind (such as it is--~~guffaw~~)

It would be good to compile a list of cities and counties that have passed referendums, etc., about impeachment. That has been happening more and more. It's quite possible none of her staff has done this.
Also, there are some Dem groups that have done so. While she is also answering to Republics in her national role, it should motivate her to know just how many Dems are willing to speak that strongly.

Also, it would be good to get the word out to step up these efforts, and get more referendums passed.

That sort of compiling is daunting, and I can't take on much, but I could ask around to find out what has happened with it here in Colorado, if you'd like.

I'm glad you are working on this, although I can't for the life of me figure out where you get this energy. Could you share? :)

Thanks for all you do! ~~insert virtual rose here~~