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The Straight Story Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:22 PM
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FDA Meets With Mothers Of Gardasil Victims
Edited on Wed May-05-10 02:22 PM by The Straight Story
FDA Meets With Mothers Of Gardasil Victims

A group of mothers-turned-activists whose daughters either died or became seriously ill after receiving the controversial cervical cancer vaccine Gardasil were invited to present their case to the Food and Drug Administration (FDA).

“They listened and asked us some questions,” said Rosemary Mathis, co-founder of the Web site TruthAboutGardasil.com, who participated in the March 12 meeting. “They’ve given our information to their researchers and they’re looking it over now.”

Ms. Mathis and five other women participated in a “listening session” with the FDA where they were invited to present information they had assembled about injuries and deaths that have resulted from the use of two vaccines, Gardasil and Cervarix, which guard against certain cancer-causing strains of the human papillomavirus (HPV). Gardasil is manufactured by Merck & Co. and Cervarix is a produce of Glaxo-Smith-Kline.

“They told us that we were the first people in history to have a listening session,” Ms. Mathis said, “and if it worked for us – they’ll do the same for others, such as for autistic groups and other vaccine victim groups.”

http://www.thebulletin.us/articles/2010/05/05/news/nation/doc4bdb3ed3d84c6327719322.txt
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:33 PM
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1. "...hundreds of reports of deaths and injuries resulting from ..."
I guess I'd like to see the evidence that the deaths resulted from the vaccines. I'd like to know what the specific C.O.D. was (infection, aneurysm etc.) If they're all different, that would weight against the claim. I would also like to know about the incidents of negative side effects they mention. Are those voluntary reports? Is it possible that with all the media attention, parents are just blaming every possible medical problem on the vaccines.

I'm reticent to credit these stories because we KNOW what happens when women get cervical cancer. They die.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 02:46 PM
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2. It's been infections and embolisms.
This has all been done to death ebfore.
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:13 PM
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3. So, mistakes during injection. nt
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:16 PM
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4. Yup.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:34 PM
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7. And we KNOW what happens when women get annual pap smears.
Edited on Wed May-05-10 04:47 PM by pnwmom
They live.

Yes, a tiny fraction will die. But implying that all women die from cervical cancer is just plain wrong. With regular pap smears, cervical cancer is usually caught before it is advanced enough to result in death.
A friend of mine was diagnosed with cervical cancer in her twenties and was treated with a cone biopsy. A few years later, she gave birth to a healthy baby. A few years later the cancer recurred and she had a hysterectomy. More than twenty years later she is fine. She advised her daughter NOT to get the Gardasil vaccine because it was unproven and the risks were still unknown. Regular pap smears are, however, a must. (HPV isn't the only cause of cervical cancer.)
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:44 PM
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10. Yeah, nothing I wrote suggests that all women will get cancer.
If the vaccine prevents it (without surgery or radiation or chemo or months of incapacitation), then it is a gigantic improvement over catching it early. That's why I am unwilling to believe mean rumor or popular (nonscientific) press. And no one is suggesting we forgo screening. Accepting one does not mean rejecting the other.
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pnwmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 04:40 PM
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8. 80% of all the deaths of children 6 -17 during that period came from the Gardasil vaccine.
(out of 80 vaccines in the database). Doesn't that seem significant to you?

“We made graphs comparing all 80 vaccines that are in the CDC/FDA’s Vaccine Adverse Events Reporting System (VAERS) starting from the time Gardasil went on the market in June, 2006 until August 2009,” Ms. Mathis said. “Gardasil was the number one offender. It had 23 percent of the volume in the database. It was not even comparable to the other vaccines.”

For instance, for the 6-17 age group, girls who received Gardasil vaccines represent 85 percent of all girls who were left disabled after a vaccination. More than 80 percent of all girls for the same age group who died after receiving a vaccination did so after receiving Gardasil.

“A lot of what we told them they said they weren’t aware of,” Ms. Mathis said, “which surprised me because a lot of what we presented was from their own VAERS information. Maybe it’s the way we analyzed it. Maybe we looked at it differently than how it had been looked at before.”

She insisted on using VAERS data in her reports because these are FDA numbers and “this is what will hold them accountable,” she said. “This is what will make the public mad – the fact that those numbers are staring them in the face and they aren’t doing anything about it.”
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Deep13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 07:41 PM
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9. So out of all the children in the USA that die, 4/5th were immediately after the vaccine?
Is that what you mean? Or is it 80% of girls like it says in your quotes? I rather thought that car accidents were the leading cause of death for children or infectious illness.

How are these deaths being reported? Does every girl that dies after being vaccinated automatically get added to the list? Or is it voluntary reporting if the parents think there is a connection?

And what is the exact cause of death for these patients? Is it infection or embolism as someone else stated? If so, that suggests a problem with the delivery mechanism and not the vaccine itself.
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Viking12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:18 PM
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5. How 'bout a few listneing sessions w/ victims of anti-vaccine groups
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SidDithers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed May-05-10 03:19 PM
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6. +1...nt
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